How much do you spend on average?

[James1588]

Originally Posted by Old-T

... As usual I find your posts interesting, well thought out, and usually not as hostile as mine. ...

I'm working on it. Elegant, effective hostility is an art. It is not attained simply by being angry. I'll get there!

[Old-T]

"Elegant, effective hostility is an art."

I like it! And people never thought I was artistically inclined! I shall use that. Thank you.

[parkerplayer]

A lot of factors go into pricing. It depends on where you are, in the USA or outside of the USA, on the coast or in the mid-west, in a city of 1+ million or not. There are some ladies who visit someplace like Tulsa, OK from Miami and want the Miami money. Then, they complain because they are "slow." When, they probably didn't price their markets very well. What you donate can also be based on the total experience the lady can offer... meth-mouth quickie, bj in the bushes, heady conversation, alluring sensuality, gfe, pse, etc. And, of course time is a factor.

For a guy in his late 50s with good investments and a nice business, $500 an hour may not be a big deal because he can make that in an hour or two himself. A 25 year-old with $100k in school debt making $22 an hour will probably not want to work over 20 hours for a one hour session at $500. Next, consider what jobs could the "average providers" get that would pay them $22 an hour?

In the end, the ladies want to make as much as they can per hour and most men want to spend as little as possible for their experience. The ones here talking about $650 an hour are not moving into the more elites at $1k per hour (much less $10K for 3-4 hours) because they have found the little they are willing to spend in relation to their financial positions. They may feel like $650 sounds like a big number but it is all relative.

Consider how much would you need to spend on a date(s) with a nice girl you meet at the grocery store to get freaky with her on a regular basis? How much will she need in further dates and gifts to keep the good times going and the attitudes up? It is all up to you.

[wildwooly1]

This post is hard to answer because there are so many variables !
First what is the age of provider
Second is she a street walker, Bp girl, provider with agency, independent provider?
Third what kind of experience are you looking for ? Bj,hj,quickies, gfe, pse , etc.
Fourth what are you willing to pay or can pay due to your income?
Fifth what type of place - alley, car,dump hotel,nice hotel, house, five star hotel
Six health concern - are u suicidal, don't give a damn, or greatly concerned
Seven safety - are u worried about Le, being seen, getting mugged?
If you take all of these factors in concern and you want a safe , nice hotel, relatively pretty independent provider your looking at least 200/ hr up to 500/ hr
Depending on your taste and expenses.
Providers have to make money too and lot of them have expenses especially ones traveling.
When I look for a provider I'm wanting a drama free, nice hotel, nice neighborhood, good looking woman with good reviews and I want it to be an enjoyable time . I'm willing to pay more money for a quality experience and I'm not looking for bargains.
Usually you get what you pay for !
A $50 experience is not gonna get you much and it may get you some things you don't want !
The hobby is dangerous enough on the high end without taking chances with bargains but its up to each person to what they want to risk.
So I'll stick with the quality ladies and you can have all the bargains you want
Good luck to you sir and have a safe and happy hobby life !

[bulon69]

Originally Posted by Wizbull0

I made roughly $65,000... not sure what that matters but an average of 32.50 an hour for going to the U of M for my bachelor's degree at a hefty price tag of $60,000+ of student loan debt. Then got my MBA at St. Thomas University for a price tag of $50,000+. How much schooling does your average escort need? Or how much does a pair of fake tits costs?

Not being rude but if I scroll through the BP advertising and see a girl who uses what seems to be real pics and I do a little investigation making sure they are not LE I set up an appointment. I don't discuss money to make sure if it is LE I have an opportunity to get out before busted. But when I am in front of the girl the negotiations are pretty straight forward. I ask how much. They tell me. Usually it's like $50-$150. If she's attractive and has a open menu I will give the $150. If she used fake pics or are not a fair representation I'm knocking down $50 immediately because I'm not paying for what I was lead to believe would be in front of me. If the the menu is open negotiations done. If she has a strict menu it depends on what I get. But if it's one pop, no gfe, cfs or bbbj I will offer $50-$60 and usually get it. If it's bj and fs $70-80 and again no argument.
The last girl I saw was a 40-42 year old cougar who for $100 gave me bbbj, rimming, prostate massage, fiv, dfk, fingering, Greek, and two pops for an 1 1/2 hour session. I came over we chatted I asked her rate she said $100. I said is Greek ok and she said yes. I didn't ask for anything else. In fact if she'd said no but 2 pops or full hour I'd never even of negotiated.

Idk I'm not an unattractive guy just in a marriage of convenience and my one affair turned into a potential divorce situation so that's why I see escorts. Does looks matter in prices?

It seems to me that you are a good negotiator with the sex workers.
I do not mean to insult you but it looks like you are underpaid with all that multiple degrees. I live in Dallas/Fort Worth area and most of my friends who has MBA has a salary range of $80,000 to $120,000. Most engineers in DFW areas with over 10 years of experience has a salary of $90,000 or more.
Myself I am a software engineer turned Database Administrator and I make over $100K per year. Yes we do get good salary in DFW.
So take it up to your manager for a better pay then you can go hobby more. :-)

[Wizbull0]

I'm not an engineer I'm a banker. When I first left college I worked for a mortgage broker and the pay for that was much greater than I make now. But I was a 1099 and had to pay for my own health insurance, had no vacation time, and no job security. Once the real estate market crashed I decided to go back to school to get my masters and went into banking.

[lakeshore35]

Horses for courses. As some have said, it depends where you are. I've paid $50 in Manila and gotten far superior service and satisfaction than the $300 I paid in the Loop.

And of course the truth is, if that sweet little Filipina could get to Chicago, she'd command the $300 easily but she'd deliver a lot higher quality than her Miracle Mile American counterparts, I suspect...unless and until she became too American herself.

I'm a cost-savvy connoisseur so always pay as little as I have to but will pay as much as I need to when the time is right.

One thing I learned a long time ago, if I need to negotiate vigorously with a provider, I'm in for a bad experience. If negotiations become necessary, I'll politely pass.

[algrace]

I would want to state that I don't ever 'shop' based on pricing. Ceteris paribus, every reasonable client would see a less costly provider. Bringing it all down to price is a very weak position to hold. The logic clearly fails.

While I may not assign blame to the OP for his attitude on cost, perchance the missing mention of session length in the polling option in combination with his additional responses insinuates the OP to be a haggling cheapskate. If I had not partaken in this hobby until after 50+ and twice divorced, I'd certainly have a different bucket list. I am sometimes reminded that for some mongers, this hobby is an achievement club. Regardless of price, does it make the whole interaction cheap if it's just another notch in the belt?


In real estate, a market sales analysis will list comparables. Just as with a home search, men are attracted to numerous different particulars offered in this hobby which are not present in the same lady (aside from the mythical 'unicorn' for which many search). The willingness to go forward may depend solely on available menu, or a sense of chemistry regardless of the preferred menu offerings, or maybe flawless beauty even while at the expense of service.

How would one arrive at their ideal price while not sacrificing some other component of choice?


I'll leave this lengthy post with one final question: Wouldn't life be boring if even there were a perfect cost benefit analysis to predict the overall satisfaction of a given experience?

[russ2003]

You definitely get what you pay for. Pay more and it will be safer, cleaner, more enjoyable. Pay less and it can be very sketch. I tend not to shop at Walmart when it comes to the hobby.

[pyramider]

Ya'll pay? The ladies call me for my legendary 1.3" of dangling death.

[parkerplayer]

Originally Posted by russ2003

You definitely get what you pay for. Pay more and it will be safer, cleaner, more enjoyable. Pay less and it can be very sketch. I tend not to shop at Walmart when it comes to the hobby.

I have seen bad attitudes and poor service at a number of price levels. Some people want the thrill of something sketchy that happens to cost less. There can be a thrill that goes with the sex to create a stronger experience.

Spend what you can afford without putting your normal life in danger.

[SinsOfTheFlesh]

Originally Posted by Wizbull0

I made roughly $65,000... not sure what that matters but an average of 32.50 an hour for going to the U of M for my bachelor's degree at a hefty price tag of $60,000+ of student loan debt. Then got my MBA at St. Thomas University for a price tag of $50,000+. How much schooling does your average escort need? Or how much does a pair of fake tits costs?

Not being rude but if I scroll through the BP advertising and see a girl who uses what seems to be real pics and I do a little investigation making sure they are not LE I set up an appointment. I don't discuss money to make sure if it is LE I have an opportunity to get out before busted. But when I am in front of the girl the negotiations are pretty straight forward. I ask how much. They tell me. Usually it's like $50-$150. If she's attractive and has a open menu I will give the $150. If she used fake pics or are not a fair representation I'm knocking down $50 immediately because I'm not paying for what I was lead to believe would be in front of me. If the the menu is open negotiations done. If she has a strict menu it depends on what I get. But if it's one pop, no gfe, cfs or bbbj I will offer $50-$60 and usually get it. If it's bj and fs $70-80 and again no argument.
The last girl I saw was a 40-42 year old cougar who for $100 gave me bbbj, rimming, prostate massage, fiv, dfk, fingering, Greek, and two pops for an 1 1/2 hour session. I came over we chatted I asked her rate she said $100. I said is Greek ok and she said yes. I didn't ask for anything else. In fact if she'd said no but 2 pops or full hour I'd never even of negotiated.

Idk I'm not an unattractive guy just in a marriage of convenience and my one affair turned into a potential divorce situation so that's why I see escorts. Does looks matter in prices?

I will put this very simply so that your cheap and feeble mind can wrap itself around what I'm about to say.

I don't come to your office and tell you what you should earn, or tell your boss what he should pay you. I wouldn't be foolish enough to assume that I know the value of your labor, or the requirements to do your job well.

You are foolish in the extreme if you think you have even an inkling of what it takes to do this job well.

I will put it even more simply for you - when you learn how to deep throat and tickle a man's balls with your tongue while you are doing it, then and ONLY then do you have the right to tell ME, and I'M worth.

PS. Do please let me know who that last provider was. I will be very happy to let her know what she is truly worth.

[Wizbull0]

Originally Posted by SinsOfTheFlesh

I will put this very simply so that your cheap and feeble mind can wrap itself around what I'm about to say.

I don't come to your office and tell you what you should earn, or tell your boss what he should pay you. I wouldn't be foolish enough to assume that I know the value of your labor, or the requirements to do your job well.

You are foolish in the extreme if you think you have even an inkling of what it takes to do this job well.

I will put it even more simply for you - when you learn how to deep throat and tickle a man's balls with your tongue while you are doing it, then and ONLY then do you have the right to tell ME, and I'M worth.

PS. Do please let me know who that last provider was. I will be very happy to let her know what she is truly worth.

Thank you for going slow for this Summa Cum Laude graduate. I didn't know I was speaking with the one card carrying mensa member who spreads her legs or takes a load to the face from whatever fat nasty middle aged has a stack of $20's for a living. And looking at your picture I probably would keep the Ulysses S. Grant.

Just remember that next time you get your crotchless panties in a bunch. You have a few orifices that are useful and in a few years you won't even have that. Now go suck some dick.

[Guest022718]

Originally Posted by Wizbull0

Thank you for going slow for this Summa Cum Laude graduate. I didn't know I was speaking with the one card carrying mensa member who spreads her legs or takes a load to the face from whatever fat nasty middle aged has a stack of $20's for a living. And looking at your picture I probably would keep the Ulysses S. Grant.

Just remember that next time you get your crotchless panties in a bunch. You have a few orifices that are useful and in a few years you won't even have that. Now go suck some dick.

Chuckle.

At the university where I graduated Summa Cum Laude, we were taught that Ad Hominem arguments were the last refuge of the terminally incompetent. Is that really the best you've got?

The fundamental point of her argument is correct. Her services (which she described quite accurately and you don't find just anywhere) are worth what most buyers would be willing to pay at the volume she wishes to produce. Your desire to pay less, notwithstanding.

Why is this concept so hard to understand? The lady sets the price. The guy pays the price or finds another provider (if possible) at the price he is willing to pay.

You can look at this one of two ways: either A) the lady is schooled in subjects and experience you don't understand and has taught you a lesson you should take to heart or B) you're even dumber than a cock-sucking whore.

I will personally opt for option A, since I've met the lady and know how intelligent she really is....... but whichever choice you make you're still a loser.

[Wizbull0]

Originally Posted by hgritstoo

Chuckle.

At the university where I graduated Summa Cum Laude, we were taught that Ad Hominem arguments were the last refuge of the terminally incompetent. Is that really the best you've got?

The fundamental point of her argument is correct. Her services (which she described quite accurately and you don't find just anywhere) are worth what most buyers would be willing to pay at the volume she wishes to produce. Your desire to pay less, notwithstanding.

Why is this concept so hard to understand? The lady sets the price. The guy pays the price or finds another provider (if possible) at the price he is willing to pay.

You can look at this one of two ways: either A) the lady is schooled in subjects and experience you don't understand and has taught you a lesson you should take to heart or B) you're even dumber than a cock-sucking whore.

I will personally opt for option A, since I've met the lady and know how intelligent she really is....... but whichever choice you make you're still a loser.

I'm not the one arguing I'm the one getting attacked. I really don't care if someone pays $1,000 for a half an hour of cfs. More power to them. I don't think I've even been asked for more than $200 an hour so when I see review after review stating they paid $300+ for what by my standards is shitty sex I thought perhaps these were fake reviews. I thought a poll would give me an accurate number of what people pay.