When materialism goes horribly wrong

[Guest083011]

Dear Natalie,
Those were extremes and they just happen to occur on the same day. What annoyed me the most was the snide/rude comment. I had tried to be nice and cordial throughout. I couldn't figure out why she turned nasty. If I am hoping to end up in bed with someone I'll do my best to be nice. I know I didn't step out of line (heck I brought flowers). Good thing I didn't go to a casino or my day might have gotten worse.

[pjorourke]

Originally Posted by Natalie

It seems like the worst of both worlds: all the most awkward elements of both pay-for-play (financial conversations and assessing the worth of another person's time) and traditional dating (games and expectations that may not be met).

It is from both sides.

I've dabbled in it, but from my experience, escorting is far more upfront and comfortable.

+1

Arrangements have worked out for me when I met the gentleman as a client first, and then we realized we'd both be happier if it evolved into something less formal.

+1 again

[gnadfly]

Worknman, part of the $3K watch's functionality is the function to impress people. Understanding this will help you understand women. Unless this is a 'bucket list' type item, I have a hard time understanding it myself. I'm an IT guy.

My mother is worse. She's been to Europe 30 times (via concorde too), been on many, many cruises (Europe, Caribbean, Alaska, etc) and always had very nice cars. She never invited her children to come with her. At one time, she had 3 homes. Everything provided by my father, her husband. Her father, nearly cut her out of his will due to her greed and sense of entitlement. When I called her up to tell her about the birth of her first grandchild, she said 'that's nice' and hung up the phone.

She's confined to a wheelchair now. She has to be picked up and put on and off the toilet. I go up to Dallas to handle my parents affairs every 2-4 weeks as I have POA. Her other children don't speak to her or their father.

I'm in the process of selling her FIVE carat diamond ring along with her other jewelry. The 3+ carat diamond wedding ring that she wears in the old folks home will stay on her finger until the EMTs or nurses wretch it off on the way to the morgue. Hopefully the watch will retain its value. My guess it that watches are at an all time high and will fall like baseball cars, classic cars and stamp collections.

Good luck. Remember that you are control of your own happiness and you'll likely spend more than $3K in happiness from the women of this board.

[Guest083011]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

The 3+ carat diamond wedding ring that she wears in the old folks home will stay on her finger until the EMTs or nurses wretch it off on the way to the morgue.

The EMT/EMS will cut it off. If it is a nice setting it will be damaged. Take a picture to make sure you have a record of it's existence. My mom has an aid 24/7 and is physically challenged like yours. No big rings, though. I want to have a DNR but another family member doesn't want it. Oy.

[Guest042611]

Originally Posted by SR Only

Dear Natalie,
Those were extremes and they just happen to occur on the same day. What annoyed me the most was the snide/rude comment. I had tried to be nice and cordial throughout. I couldn't figure out why she turned nasty. If I am hoping to end up in bed with someone I'll do my best to be nice. I know I didn't step out of line (heck I brought flowers). Good thing I didn't go to a casino or my day might have gotten worse.

Honestly she sounds like she was probably a former (or even current) escort who was trying a different route and thought she should still be paid hourly. Totally rude. If you want to be paid hourly than just be an escort, I say.

[Guest083011]

Originally Posted by Natalie

Honestly she sounds like she was probably a former (or even current) escort who was trying a different route and thought she should still be paid hourly. Totally rude. If you want to be paid hourly than just be an escort, I say.

Some how I didn't get the impression of a sex worker. What comes to mind is "gold digger." I know it is a matter of semantics. A SW charges a fee for services rendered (whether s/he enjoys it is a whole 'nother thread). A sugarbaby has a different spin in the relationship dynamics. My feeling is a Gold Digger is almost an equivalent of a "cash and dash."

Quick story about a cash and dash. In the early seventies I was a young sprat looking to buy some marijuana in NYC's Lower East Side, with some friends. Apparently an enterprising young man was able to sense our need and offer to buy us some. We agreed and the young man went inside a building where we waited outside for our "big score." [y'all can see where this is going]. Remarkably, the young man never returns and presto chango, we're out our cash.

So we head up inside the building and end up knocking on some guy's door. It turns out it is the apartment of David Peel (of "David Peel and The Lower Eastside Band" fame (hits include: "Up Against the Wall Mother Fucker" and "I Like Marijuana"). Mr. Peel sympathized with us noobs and got us high. Nice guy. It made up for the "C&D."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Peel_(musician)

I had this album:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWE-fyJEN0E&feature=youtube_gdata
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gWNtL8mCbw&feature=re lated
As a disclaimer, I was young and a stoner. Musical taste was shall we say "limited."

I can't make this sh!t up. For a beer infused Friday night, I had to post it.

[Laurentius]

Overly materialistic women, I have found in civie life, often end up to be more trouble than they are worth.

That has been my experience though, of course, ymmv.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Laurentius

Overly materialistic women, I have found in civie life, often end up to be more trouble than they are worth.

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I find them refreshingly simplistic

[BellaIsabella]

I can relate to this thread, I grew up in an incredibly materialistic family, with a lawyer father who is a work-a-holic, and a mother who is a shop a holic, my father would not think anyhingof dropping many thousand on a rolex, or my mother on a handbag...to me, I like nice things, but how they spend their money is ridiculous,but then again,money and a large house is the only thing they have since their marriage sucks. My father has had a long series of mistresses for whom he buys expensive gifts and my mother belongs on "Housewives of Orange County"

I had a sugar daddy for about five minutes,prior to being an escort, a married guy, he used to buy me handbags and shoes...meh. I would have rathered he just gave me the money so I could save it for the future. The more gifts he gave me, the more it was actually a turn off to me, and the truth is, I would have dated him with no money involved.

Now I am married and live in Paris,life is different here. Everything is smaller and more expensive. People are not extravagent like in the USA, but they invest in small luxuries. My husband buys me a Hermes scarf (I actually have a Hermes scarf fetish, I find it very erotic when he ties me up with them!) twice a year--once on my birthday--once at Christmas and that's it, and honestly thats more I need...