Long Term, Mistress, Exclusive "Arrangements"?

[JT10]

Have seen these terms used. What do they mean to you, and how do they differ?

[Guest053011]

Originally Posted by JT10

Have seen these terms used. What do they mean to you, and how do they differ?

Long Term: an arrangement that has lasted a while, or is planned several months to a year in advance. The arrangement is usually X$ for X time. The rate is generally lower because the gent is promising frequency or stability, or both.

Mistress: not all time is compensated for, tends to be genuine adoration, warmth, affection between the two. He general makes a substantial contribution to her life style.

Exclusive: the lady has agreed to see only one gent who provides for all her needs.

[discreetgent]

My take is a bit different from Lauren, but the idea is similar.

Exclusive: Typically it means that a lady sees one gent exclusivley for some agreed time frame. Often it can even mean that the lady will take down her website for the duration of the agreement.

Mistress: On-going relationship that generally means a set amount of support per month for some determined number of days. Ideally the gent provides support to the lady that is appropriate for the relationship without a set amount per date. In reality it may take the form of a minimum of X days per month at a certain rate and each additional day at some lower rate. Unlike exclusive this may be offered to 2 or 3 gents.

Long Term: This is more of an on-going type of thing. There was one lady that over a 2 year period I probably saw every 6-8 weeks for two nights, perhaps a weekend, on occasion a bit longer. There was no formal arrangement but as it evolved into that type of arrangement the amount of between date communication increased and the rate decreased.

[atlcomedy]

Returning home to this and a bunch of other new threads....RTFF (Read The Fucking Forum)....most of these questions have been asked/answered...

One point I will object to is regarding mistress: my understanding is that it is not a P4P relationship in the traditional direct sense, but simply the woman a married man is having an affair with

[JT10]

Originally Posted by discreetgent

My take is a bit different from Lauren, but the idea is similar.

Exclusive: Typically it means that a lady sees one gent exclusivley for some agreed time frame. Often it can even mean that the lady will take down her website for the duration of the agreement.

Mistress: On-going relationship that generally means a set amount of support per month for some determined number of days. Ideally the gent provides support to the lady that is appropriate for the relationship without a set amount per date. In reality it may take the form of a minimum of X days per month at a certain rate and each additional day at some lower rate. Unlike exclusive this may be offered to 2 or 3 gents.

Long Term: This is more of an on-going type of thing. There was one lady that over a 2 year period I probably saw every 6-8 weeks for two nights, perhaps a weekend, on occasion a bit longer. There was no formal arrangement but as it evolved into that type of arrangement the amount of between date communication increased and the rate decreased.

OK, basically makes sense. For the ladies or guys in the know, To go mistress or exclusive, as in take down site. IF yearly gross take was X would a person want 1/2X for this since they dont have to advertise, return calls, do verifications and avoid meeting new dates regulary(safety).
OR
would they want 2X since all the "excitement" is gone??

[Camille]

Originally Posted by JT10

OK, basically makes sense. For the ladies or guys in the know, To go mistress or exclusive, as in take down site. IF yearly gross take was X would a person want 1/2X for this since they dont have to advertise, return calls, do verifications and avoid meeting new dates regulary(safety).
OR
would they want 2X since all the "excitement" is gone??

I wouldn't think that either of those points factor into the financial equation. It will likely be a combination of what her costs are (which of course still exist without advertizing) and what her goals are.

C x

[Guest053011]

Originally Posted by atlcomedy

Returning home to this and a bunch of other new threads....RTFF (Read The Fucking Forum)....most of these questions have been asked/answered...

One point I will object to is regarding mistress: my understanding is that it is not a P4P relationship in the traditional direct sense, but simply the woman a married man is having an affair with

If you study the history of Mistressdom from Modern to Ancient times this often still meant financial support - unless she too was married.

Historically the mistresses marriage prospects would be harmed as a result of participating in an affair, and being unmarried she'd have no means to support herself. Kings, Nobel men and the rich often provided homes, food, clothes, travel and money to the women they loved, but could never marry.

In this generation, if there is a huge income gap, the one earning substantially more provides for the person they adore and care for - now that might mean the woman is of greater means, but often it is still the male. So financial support is not a necessity - however it remains quite common amongst those who are wealthy and of great position.

Plenty of reading on the matter from these times going back to the time of Christ. Mistresses have a unique and interesting history, as do professional companions. The main element separating the two is love or at least deep adoration. There are instances when a man looses his fortune, the mistress going to great lengths to help him with all the wealth he had givin to her for example.

[atlcomedy]

@LS - forgive me I thought we were having a practical discussion about the present, as interesting as your historical perspective dating back to the time of Christ may be.

[Rudyard K]

Actually Alt "WE" weren't really having that discussion.

YOU have argued with the thread be posted at all...another's view of a mistress...and now finally LS's history lesson.

C'mon...its a weekend...lighten up. You having a bad day?

[atlcomedy]

Originally Posted by Rudyard K

Actually Alt "WE" weren't really having that discussion.

YOU have argued with the thread be posted at all...another's view of a mistress...and now finally LS's history lesson.

C'mon...its a weekend...lighten up. You having a bad day?

Having a great weekend thanks!!

The two points are not incompatible:

-WE have discussed this before...use the search function or if you need a link make WTF your link-bitch (which is the point I was trying to get across the newcomers)

-as great as the history lesson was, I thought WE or the OP were talking about today....if you want to go back just 50 or so years many words have changed meaning or context...just ask DED, I'm sure he can censor a few choice ones for you...

-my post on the current definition (not 2000 years ago) of mistress I believe is spot on and a valuable clarification.

[Naomi4u]

lol

[Guest053011]

Originally Posted by atlcomedy

-my post on the current definition (not 2000 years ago) of mistress I believe is spot on and a valuable clarification.

Actually women were dependent on their husbands for financial stability up until about The 1960s and 1970s. And being such a short time ago, those traditions still exist for many with the financial wherewithal to support a lover of lower economic status.

There are of course just affairs. But just dating a man who is married does not a mistress make. A mistress is devoted to a married man, knowing he will not leave his marriage for her. The modern definition strictly means "a continuing relationship" with a married man. Sport fucking a guy who is convenient isn't a Mistress. Expecting him to end his marriage for you isn't a mistress either. Both are just affairs. The term mistress can be used more loosely, outside of it's traditional context, as any words in our language can - "Mistress" was very specific originally, and because modern lexicon tends to be loose and ever changing, thanks to the very thing that allows us to argue with each other "the internet" nearly anything you want can be argued.

But if you really want to get particular about the modern meaning of mistress, just turn to a dictionary:

: a woman who has power, authority, or ownership: as a : the female head of a household b : a woman who employs or supervises servants c : a woman who is in charge of a school or other establishment d : a woman of the Scottish nobility having a status comparable to that of a master
2
a chiefly British : a female teacher or tutor b : a woman who has achieved mastery in some field

3
: something personified as female that rules, directs, or dominates <when Rome was mistress of the world>

4
a : a woman other than his wife with whom a married man has a continuing sexual relationship b archaic : sweetheart

5
a —used archaically as a title prefixed to the name of a married or unmarried woman b chiefly Southern & Midland : mrs. 1a

[CiaraMist]

Does anyone ELSE feel a HEADACHE coming on? Guess thats WHY there ARE Mistressesssss!!!!! LOL

[Sydneyb]

Originally Posted by JT10

IF yearly gross take was X would a person want 1/2X for this since they dont have to advertise, return calls, do verifications and avoid meeting new dates regulary(safety).
OR
would they want 2X since all the "excitement" is gone??

It depends on what the relationship is about. In mine (I am a mistress, though I met him as a provider), he wants my life to be as good as it can be, which is better than it was when I was a provider. He gives me things I never thought about even wanting (btw, jewelry and points in oil investments rock - I had no idea!), and while I work on my new manufacturing business, he provides for me as well as he does his own family - keep in mind that we have been together for over 2 years, so this relationship has developed. And frankly, I'm giving him some very good years of my life. While we average 2-3 months a year traveling together, there is no way that this can make financial sense for him, and he's smart enough to know that. Its a kindness that isn't lost on me. And most days, I try to return the kindness in whatever ways I have available to me. Some days, I'm just a hormonal bitch like the rest of them. But we are friends and we weather through things.

[Guest053011]

Originally Posted by Sydneyb

It depends on what the relationship is about. In mine (I am a mistress, though I met him as a provider), he wants my life to be as good as it can be, which is better than it was when I was a provider... he provides for me as well as he does his own family - keep in mind that we have been together for over 2 years, so this relationship has developed. And frankly, I'm giving him some very good years of my life. While we average 2-3 months a year traveling together, there is no way that this can make financial sense for him, and he's smart enough to know that. Its a kindness that isn't lost on me. And most days, I try to return the kindness in whatever ways I have available to me.

Amen. Often enough it comes down to what ways you are able to help each other and show caring and kindness, and helping someone live a comfortable life financially can be an act of kindness and caring. It isn't always about "paying for" or "buying". Sometimes people just give.