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Old 10-23-2011, 01:07 AM   #16
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Best advice I have ever heard from a lawyer say nothing and ask for a lawyer.End of story.
Well, you don't really have to say anything. But asking for a Lawyer won't do ya much good. Simply because if you are arrested. They'll take you to a precinct and process your paperwork. Then you'll be photographed and Fingerprinted. All this will take about an hour. After that you can make a phone call. I guess at that time you can call your Lawyer. What do you think he's gonna do, especially if its lets say midnight or 1am.
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Old 10-23-2011, 09:24 AM   #17
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That's perfectly fine with me at least i know if I dont open my big mouth then theres no way I could dig myself a bigger hole by opening my mouth and speaking with them.
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Old 10-24-2011, 04:49 PM   #18
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Well, you don't really have to say anything. But asking for a Lawyer won't do ya much good. Simply because if you are arrested. They'll take you to a precinct and process your paperwork. Then you'll be photographed and Fingerprinted. All this will take about an hour. After that you can make a phone call. I guess at that time you can call your Lawyer. What do you think he's gonna do, especially if its lets say midnight or 1am.
What you describe may be the standard practice in SOME jurisdictions, but it's certainly not the standard practice in ALL jurisdictions, as you imply. For one thing, suspects aren't taken to police precincts to be booked in; rather, suspects are sometimes taken to a city jail and then later transferred to a county jail, or directly to a county jail. In Texas, a suspect may be afforded the chance to make a phone call at various times, depending on the practice of the city and county where he's arrested. Some jails allow a suspect to use his cell phone. Others confiscate cell phones but have pay phones in cells. Other jails only allow calls from a landline in an office in the guard station. Also, I don't know of ANY jurisdiction in North Texas that takes only an hour to book a suspect in, arraign him, and release him. For example, at Lew Sterrett (the Dallas County Jail), I've had cases where the book-in process took anywhere from three hours to eighteen hours. How long the process takes largely depends on how many suspects are in the jail, so a prudent criminal should time their arrest so they don't miss an episode of General Hospital.

I guess you could call your lawyer in the middle of the night. I tell my clients they can call me 24/7, but I may not answer. Haha. If your purpose in calling a lawyer is to get him to bail you out or post a bond, I wouldn't suggest that. Unless the lawyer is your Uncle Billy, he probably won't post your bail. Lawyers work to make money, not to loan money. In Texas, qualified lawyers can write bonds, but no reputable lawyer does because it can cause a HUGE conflict of interest if your client fails to appear for court. A failure to appear can lead the court to revoke the bond and ask the surety to pay the amount of the bond. So if my client is a FTA, I may want him arrested so I'm not out the bond amount. Wanting my client put in jail could be seen as not zealously representing him. Haha.

As I've written many times before, every hobbyist and provider should have the phone number of a reliable bail bondsman in their wallet or purse. Providers should even consider tattooing the number somewhere on their body. The tattoo could be changed to a nice butterfly if the bondsman changes his number or the provider retires.
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Old 10-25-2011, 05:56 PM   #19
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Basically all booking procedures are the same in all jurisdictions. When a suspect is arrested the police have a good bit of paperwork to do. The arrestee is Fingerprinted, photographed. The arrestee's property is always taken and placed in a sealed bag and placed in a locked safe. Arrestee then signs a personnal property receipt and is given a copy. The jail I spent most of my young years in had Bail Bond numbers taped to a wall near the phone. In Louisiana they have Bail Bondsmen/ Bouny Hunter. They write their Bonds charge 10% of what the arrestee's bond is and they also will remand subjects that skip court. What I was trying to bring accross to the OP is the police are going to do their job first.
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Old 10-26-2011, 01:12 PM   #20
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They write their Bonds charge 10% of what the arrestee's bond ....
That is FAR from standard practice. In my experience, the lowest premium a bondsman will charge is 10% of the bond amount, and it goes up from there. For a prostitution case, some bondsmen charge a provider a premium of 100% of the bond amount which, of course, makes no sense because the same money could be used to post cash bail and the person who paid the bail will get most of it back once the case is disposed. Bond premiums are non-refundable.
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Old 10-26-2011, 03:59 PM   #21
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That is FAR from standard practice. In my experience, the lowest premium a bondsman will charge is 10% of the bond amount, and it goes up from there. For a prostitution case, some bondsmen charge a provider a premium of 100% of the bond amount which, of course, makes no sense because the same money could be used to post cash bail and the person who paid the bail will get most of it back once the case is disposed. Bond premiums are non-refundable.
100% of the bond is definitely ridiculous. But in Louisiana a Bail Bondsmen will charge 10%, so for example if a bond is set at 5000, an arrestee who hires a Bondsman will be charged 500.00 dollars plus any paperwork fees whatever that might come out to be. In fact in Louisiana they can't charge over 10% of the bond amount. Maybe that has changed recently, I don't know. This type of Bond is often times referred to as a Surety Bond. They written up similar to an Insurance Policy through what is known as a Power of Attorney. Bonding Agents run a heck of a buisness here in Louisiana. Surety Bonds are the only Bonds that are posted outside of the court. All other Bonds are. Such as Property Bonds, Jurat Bonds ( When a Judge designates a family member or other responsible party to sign out a Def.) ROR Bond(When a Judge allows a Def. to sign himself out of jail) and of course Cash Bond. I am sure Texas has similar. I've never heard of Lawyers writting Bonds here. A Lawyer can Bond someone out and represent them in court. But like you said that would be a conflict of interest. The Jails in the large citys here are constantly full. The dockets must be massive. Iam sure all states have similar problems with their jails being over crowded.
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Okay, totally newbie question but if you get arrested and you have a bond set, you get a bondsman pay them __% of your bond and then what? When or do you have to pay the rest? Is a bondsman just to get you out until court?
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Old 10-27-2011, 04:41 AM   #23
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Several years ago I was driving in the dark and it was real early, maybe 5am. I do not recall where I was heading (but I was sober). I live in a small Oklahoma city and the cops here really have a rep for pulling folks over and then figuring out what to ticket you for in order to pump up the city's cash flow. In my mirror I saw I was being followed by a squad car with two cops inside. I got to a stop sign, put my truck in 'park' walked back to the surprised cops and when they rolled down their window I said " I am glad I saw you guys behind me. I am lost and need directions to the Interstate." They gave directions - I thanked them and we went our separate ways! It just helps to think quickly and to go on the offensive without being offensive!
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Old 10-27-2011, 07:34 AM   #24
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Okay, totally newbie question but if you get arrested and you have a bond set, you get a bondsman pay them __% of your bond and then what? When or do you have to pay the rest? Is a bondsman just to get you out until court?
No, you don't have to pay the rest. The Surety Bond has actual value and is submitted to the court showing you posted the Bond. You then will be mailed your court appearence date.
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Old 11-20-2011, 06:21 AM   #25
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The thing to think about is & has been expressed here before is to SHUT UP. Cops may question you before they actually place you under arrest. Anything you say then possibly could be used against you. If they havent stated you are under arrest yet, then ask them these questions;

1. Am I under arrest. If they say NO, then you might answer there question with "I think I would like to confer with a attorney before answering that"

2. If they say NO to #1, then ask them "Am I free to leave" and also any further questions with "I think I would like to confer with a attorney before answering that"

3. If at anytime they say you are under arrest & they have issued you the MIRANDA warnings, definetly say "I would to speak with a attorney before answering any questions" My understanding is any questions they ask you after that can be thrown out that much easier because you have invoked a request for a attorney. And that they are not supposed to ask you any further questions after you invoke this privilege without a attorney repesenting & advising you present. But at that point you are taking the ride, so nothing you can say will help you, only hurt you in the long run.

I may be worng about this & hopefully ShysterJon or someone will correct me as needed. But hey, I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night. (Not saying with whom I saw, but you get the idea)
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Iv got to come back and real all this~ thankz~
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Old 11-21-2011, 10:54 AM   #27
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I may be worng about this & hopefully ShysterJon or someone will correct me as needed.
I agree with your content if not your spelling.
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Old 12-12-2011, 08:02 PM   #28
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thanks babe this advice helped out alot stay safe! <3 summer
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Old 12-29-2011, 07:08 AM   #29
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fyi city of dallas is posting FB and mugshots.com is putting up any mugshots.....

If you ever get popped for anything its about 200 bucks ransom to have it removed. I set up a google alert on my name years ago......it pinged from the mugshot and I immediately got on the phone with my attorney and a removal service, down in 24 hours.

Case was not related to prost....I followed these statements to the T.

Officer asked me a question, I stated... am I under suspicion of a crime? Yes. I want to speak to an attorney, that is all.....gave him my info. Took a ride and bonded out once I hit the ATM in Lew Sterrit.

Case dismissed after attorney approached asst da and judge.

They say there is a massive influx of arrests and imprisionment of Americas population.....speaks alot about cops/cities/death/taxes in America.

Be prepared, keep a low profile with LE (there was an older man whom kept volunteering his innoncence and stories, the cops acted sympathetic, got him to chat up what his personal arrest story was in front of all inmates, then read his arrest out loud in front of several inmates, some I found out later arrainged for organized crime or murder, he was carrying a concealed weapon and Identified himself as an officer, to an off duty police officer whom approached him at an Elks club meeting when he noticed the gun, all he had to do was show his CHP) and other inmates and then the second you are out GET an attorney.....I recommend reading a local newspaper, see which attorneys stars/atheletes useand pony up the do or open up the cc.

Follow up with your attorney weekly, every case is unique and stressful.....most important thing is you are alive, and number 2, not in prison.

We need a fine system here only for NV offenses. Keep others less fortunate out of prison and productive, things can be fixed or replaced but emotionally damaging people via prison before a long drawn out trial or just because of harsh sentencing is ridiculous.

You get one life and everyone deserves a 2nd chance to make it right.
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Old 02-19-2012, 12:09 AM   #30
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I suppose it is safe to assume that they have been watching and saw (or heard) you doing something that gives them cause to pull you over. If you have not been doing anything illegal (yet) then you are innocent. Act like it.

Some years ago I was leaving Norfolk Navy base by the back gate. Outside the gate sitting on the curb was a woman who I had been with once or twice. She was older but very attractive. It was about 7 AM so I was tired and she looked it. I offered her a ride home since I knew that we lived in the same area of town. She got in and we ended up a convenience store so she could buy cigarettes. We had discussed nothing except we were both tired. As she went inside a police car parked next to me. One officer got out and approached my car. He asked me what was up and did I have any plans. I flat told him that I know what the woman does for a living but we were not engaged in any illicit activity. I was just off work and I guess she was going home. I offered her a ride and nothing more. He looked at me for a few seconds and finally said "have a nice day".
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