Seeking advice.

[diwafiven]

@rothers Thank you for your advice, I am taking another look at agencies, and think I may have found one less shady one (torontogirlfriends), though I base whether they look shady by reviews and the websites code quality.

Suggestions on escort agencies in the area based on experience would be appreciated.

Thank you so much to everyone for your help so far.

[SA Angel]

OP here is an example of a good first email to send to a lady.

Hello (insert name),

I saw your ad on (insert website). I think you are (insert compliment). I am a 29 year old (insert race) guy with (insert distinguishing characteristics) and am (insert weight). I am also a virgin and would like to spend time in the company of a woman so I might be more confident in the real world.

I have time available to meet you on (insert DATE and TIME) for an (insert length) appointment. I am a newbie so please let me know what you require for screening. Thank you for your time and I look forward to your response.

Respectfully,

(your name)

Do you see what you can accomplish in a few sentences? By telling her where you saw her ad you are saying you read the ad and agree to her rates. A compliment is always appreciated and will cause her to look more favorably on the rest of your email. You give a physical description so she knows what to expect and by giving it to her unprompted she gets the feeling that you know the rules. You state you are a virgin and that your goal is to be more confident in the real world. Any provider worth her salt with see that and know you are shy and that they have to be gentle with you. You give her a definite date and time so she knows you are serious about meeting up and state that you are a newbie so she can send you what she requires to see you. Finally you close out by being polite and setting an expectation that a response is needed.

Try inserting you own information and using that form letter from now on....I guarantee that you will get a response. From then on only write general greetings, the specific information she requests, and thanks.

Also, if you are going to contact ladies here MAYBE think about changing your location to Toronto or your actual location than the acronym for a video game that is famous for the option of sleeping with hookers then robbing them after. IJS

[watchoutthegameisrigged]

OP, SA Angel just took time out of her day to kindly and gently provide you some very valuable advice from the perspective of a provider. If I were you, I would take it to heart.

[pyramider]

Do not forget the bloody Search tab!! There are several threads on everything you seek, if you look for them. Do your due diligence or be a 45 year old virgin.

[pumpkineater]

Originally Posted by SA Angel

OP here is an example of a good first email to send to a lady.

Hello (insert name),

I saw your ad on (insert website). I think you are (insert compliment). I am a 29 year old (insert race) guy with (insert distinguishing characteristics) and am (insert weight). I am also a virgin and would like to spend time in the company of a woman so I might be more confident in the real world.

I have time available to meet you on (insert DATE and TIME) for an (insert length) appointment. I am a newbie so please let me know what you require for screening. Thank you for your time and I look forward to your response.

Respectfully,

(your name)

Do you see what you can accomplish in a few sentences? By telling her where you saw her ad you are saying you read the ad and agree to her rates. A compliment is always appreciated and will cause her to look more favorably on the rest of your email. You give a physical description so she knows what to expect and by giving it to her unprompted she gets the feeling that you know the rules. You state you are a virgin and that your goal is to be more confident in the real world. Any provider worth her salt with see that and know you are shy and that they have to be gentle with you. You give her a definite date and time so she knows you are serious about meeting up and state that you are a newbie so she can send you what she requires to see you. Finally you close out by being polite and setting an expectation that a response is needed.

Try inserting you own information and using that form letter from now on....I guarantee that you will get a response. From then on only write general greetings, the specific information she requests, and thanks.

Also, if you are going to contact ladies here MAYBE think about changing your location to Toronto or your actual location than the acronym for a video game that is famous for the option of sleeping with hookers then robbing them after. IJS

+++1000!
Great answer Ms. lovely Angel! I may just have to use that on you the next time I'm down by the Alamo!

[diwafiven]

@SA Angel: Thank you so very much! This information is perfect.

@pyramider: I know about the search key, I have used it, the information in there just didn't click for me. I have always been an extremely methodical and technical thinker (very smart, but dense).

I know my communication skills outside of my industry are poor, and I apologize for that. I would also like to thank everyone for their help, especially the women, who have show great kindness and insight to me even though I have likely come across as very uncouth.

[ck1942]

Diwafiven,

Thanks for your explanations.

I totally missed (or misread) the V card reference.

So, herewith, amending my above(s) to inquire as to why you are virtuous?

If it has been merely because you are super shy, I can buy that; unusual for sure, but not off the charts.

If you are, perhaps, a "Galahad," I can buy that, too.

If it has been due to deeply held religious or personal virtue convictions, then I'd suggest first getting past those (emotional or psychological?) barriers before attempting sexual relations.

Reason I suggest that is quite likely, unless your initial experiences are way more than just fun, the potential for guilt may be very high.

Either way, best of luck in dealing with all of the potential emotional sensations and consequences of your initial experiences.

[Iron Butterfly]

Originally Posted by ck1942

Diwafiven,

Thanks for your explanations.

I totally missed (or misread) the V card reference.

So, herewith, amending my above(s) to inquire as to why you are virtuous?

If it has been merely because you are super shy, I can buy that; unusual for sure, but not off the charts.

If you are, perhaps, a "Galahad," I can buy that, too.

If it has been due to deeply held religious or personal virtue convictions, then I'd suggest first getting past those (emotional or psychological?) barriers before attempting sexual relations.

Reason I suggest that is quite likely, unless your initial experiences are way more than just fun, the potential for guilt may be very high.

Either way, best of luck in dealing with all of the potential emotional sensations and consequences of your initial experiences.

As a thirty year old vergin myself, I understand the situation and in my case it was shyness, fear, and life situation choice. For me it was not an emotional situation, my first time was with a sex athleat. I think for the late bloomers a sex athleat is a great choice as there is no emotional connection to make the first expieriance complicated. There is no pressure to perform for the lady and impress her. If I had the opportunity that one would have now it would have been a much better first time for me.

You have the ability to pick a really nice First Lady. You could even ask if you could do a two or three step date. Meet the lady, get to know her maybe start out slow, no sex. Then see her again and then just let the wonders happen. You have a very special opportunity to have an amazing life changing experience with some of the best ladies sex has to offer. They can teach you what you need to know so when you do get into a relation ship you can really go into the sexual activities with confidence.

Then again if your just deing to go for it find a nice hottie and don't be shy, she wants you and will let you (if you pick the right girl) do what ever your fantasy have been brewing over the years.

Good luck and have fun.

IB

[pyramider]

Originally Posted by diwafiven

@SA Angel: Thank you so very much! This information is perfect.

@pyramider: I know about the search key, I have used it, the information in there just didn't click for me. I have always been an extremely methodical and technical thinker (very smart, but dense).

I am not going to do the searches for you, or anyone else. The threads are present, I have posted on several of them. You need to do your own due diligence.

[MaxiMilyen]

Quick and quiet is OK, but not everyone's cup o' tea, desire, or specialty. I'm not so sure being a counselor isn't on the list of the many many services we actually do provide. A shy hesitant young man might need a little bit more mature woman than himself in order to break him outta the shell he is in.

Find yourself a woman, 10 to 15 years older, as mature prividers have a tendency to also be more personable. Maybe a get to know ya, make out session would be a nice way to start. You will have time to discuss your situation and she probably won't rush your experience, but take into consideration who you actually are, what your dilemma actually is, and have the time to consider what experience it is you truly seek and in order to make it an experience that gives you confidance to move forward. I've had quite a few sit, chat, and cuddle sessions with gents who seek simply the company of a congenial woman, who is thrilled to listen and discuss whatever it is they have on their mind, and then provide whatever reassurance it is they need to move forward. An experienced woman is most likely to have the compassion you may be seeking.


It doesn't matter what any male may seek in this community, hon. There is a woman in the hobby, who will suit your needs and desires, somewhere. Research is your best tool, no matter what that may be. You might seek a lady who will rip the bandaid off and get it done, or one who eases you into a world where all your desires and needs can possibly become your reality. You know yourself better than anyone, so choose wisely, as the possibilities are endless. Good Luck!

[Latina_Tonya]

Originally Posted by SA Angel

Also, if you are going to contact ladies here MAYBE think about changing your location to Toronto or your actual location than the acronym for a video game that is famous for the option of sleeping with hookers then robbing them after. IJS

Actually Diwafiven, I'd like to second MaxiMilyen's and SA Angel's recommendations.
I don't think you're uncouth at all, just speaking your mind.

[diwafiven]

@ck1942: the reason I am still a vrigin is much like Iron Butterfly, shyness and fear. I was always very shy (and dense), but an extremely messed up breakup occurred and I just couldn't approach women anymore. I will post no more about it, I know why she did it, and as far as she knows I just moved on with my life; and I don't want her to feel more guilt than she already did if she ever sees this.

@MaxiMilyen: Some good advice there, I know who I am, and what my dilemma actually is, as for the experience I seek, that would initially be someone willing to take the lead and make me feel comfortable; someone to tell my brain what I already know, that these feelings aren't rational.

@Latina_Tonya & SA Angel: I will take your advice. It means greater Toronto area though. The game never really crossed my mind (I am more of a strategy/tactics guy); and I will be taking my vacations around Toronto (but never in that driving hell).

[goodtimes]

Originally Posted by pyramider

I am not going to do the searches for you, or anyone else. The threads are present, I have posted on several of them. You need to do your own due diligence.

It certainly wouldn't hurt if the search was easier to use, like for example, if there were to be a search button when you were inside a forum and clicking it selected only that forum. Scrolling through the list of hundreds of forums to select the ones you want in that little box isn't exactly the easiest thing to do in the world, and I think this would be easy to implement.

[skbinks]

Originally Posted by goodtimes

It certainly wouldn't hurt if the search was easier to use, like for example, if there were to be a search button when you were inside a forum and clicking it selected only that forum. Scrolling through the list of hundreds of forums to select the ones you want in that little box isn't exactly the easiest thing to do in the world, and I think this would be easy to implement.

You mean like the link that says, "Search This Forum" at the top of each forum and even shows up at the top of each Sub-Forum like to search all "Kansas and Missouri" or just "Kansas City Metro"? Or the one at the top of each thread that says, "Search this Thread"?

Or are you talking about some site besides ECCIE?

[pyramider]

Originally Posted by goodtimes

It certainly wouldn't hurt if the search was easier to use, like for example, if there were to be a search button when you were inside a forum and clicking it selected only that forum. Scrolling through the list of hundreds of forums to select the ones you want in that little box isn't exactly the easiest thing to do in the world, and I think this would be easy to implement.

Five years on icky and you do not know how to use Search ... Holy tebow. For this particular Search, I recommend going all forums.