Hadn't Hillary noticed that kicking the props out from under an Arab dictator might produce very severe adverse consequences? Failure stacked atop failure.
From the reading I have done over the last few years, I'm under the impression that she must have been extremely eager to work with NATO on this as well as a variety of other issues, and for myriad reasons.
Additionally, Sarkozy, who was a driving force behind this deal, was desperately seeking in 2011 to divert attention from domestic issues and his sinking approval ratings. In fact, he later lost his re-election bid to "Mr. 75%" himself (Monsieur Hollande).
Of course, France had been meddling in much of Africa for many decades, so a little show of French military power was neither unexpected nor unwelcome to the French government. Additionally, Sarkozy was said to be interested in ensuring the uninterrupted flow of Libyan oil, although (at least in the near-to-intermediate term) in that regard, too, the operation backfired.
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That was a threat to the dollar as well. Oil is traded in dollars. Gadaffi wanted to establish a gold based African currency. Could have spelled doom for fiat money.
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Huh?? Doom for fiat money?
A little tinpot wannabe like Qaddafi had no more chance of disturbing the primacy of the world's major currencies than you and a dozen of your buddies would have of pooling your funds and making a successful run at effecting a hostile takeover of Exxon Mobil.
Since it's only five minutes long, and since I thought there might be some comedic value involved (since you posted it!), I took a look at that video. The guy actually said that Qaddafi's gold-backed "African Dinar" might threaten to "topple" the world's fiat currencies. (Yes, seriously. You just can't make this stuff up!) Completely laughable, but I remember when the conspiracy-mongering bullshit blogs lit up with this silliness.
Even if Qaddafi announced such a new currency, who would take it seriously? And to whom would he sell his oil if he demanded payment in the gold-backed currency? His fellow African Union Gold Dinar users? Good luck with that! Lustylad gave a good, quick overview of the issue. Read it and try to understand it. If you can.
Further, I recall noting at the time that Qaddafi's entire gold hoard was estimated to weigh in at approximately 140 tons. Do the math. That's considerably less than one day's worth of tax receipts to the U.S. Treasury. Do you understand the scale involved here?
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Damn, you are a sucker for the MSM, aren't you, LustyLardo? Don't worry, the government won't lie to you, and they always have the best intentions.
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What are you talking about? The government lies all the time. Especially about Libya. And I constantly point out those lies.
You're the one who would have us believe "the only reason we took out Qaddafi was because he was threatening the dollar". Yet you can't even begin to explain the nature of the supposed threat you say motivated us. He apparently doesn't understand this issue any better than he understands the FairTax (or taxation in general, for that matter).
I'd say anyone who believes you is a sucker. True that!
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COG has a longstanding habit of saying that anyone who doesn't buy into all his pet conspiracy bullshit must therefore be a dupe of the government or the media. Well, the representation of choices regarding the sources upon which one relies for information doesn't conform to discrete selection or binary choice models, does it?
Intelligent, well-informed people are
always skeptical of government and media sources, but are capable of critical thinking and readily recognize conspiracy B.S. for what it is.
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HRC 4 President - Libyan success!
