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Old 06-23-2016, 12:20 PM   #1
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Default More Good News From the SCOTUS

The Supreme Court
Just Dealt a Huge Blow
To Obama's Immigration Plan


http://fortune.com/2016/06/23/suprem...t-immigration/

I guess the President can't legislate after all!

Does that cut into the voting block for Hillarious-No-More?
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Old 06-23-2016, 12:23 PM   #2
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And look at how odummer has come out and made it an election issue already ! Gotta protect his legacy ( and of course, NEVER admit that he violated the Constitution by trying to MAKE law ! )
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the SCOTUS probably did Hillary a favor today, the Hispanic vote was inspired to vote against Trump before. . . now the Hispanic vote is inspired to vote for Hillary.
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Old 06-23-2016, 12:40 PM   #4
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the SCOTUS probably did Hillary a favor today, the Hispanic vote was inspired to vote against Trump before. . . now the Hispanic vote is inspired to vote for Hillary.
Law breaking gimme-gimme liberals voting for a law breaking AND LYING liberal . That makes sense. so will YOU and YOUR jente be voting " early and often " for shrillary ? And going to the cemeteries for the " absentee " votes ?
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SouthMouth is spewing nonsense again ... he thinks the "Hispanic voters" want the illegals to remain in the U.S. .... They don't want them back home and they don't want them here!

Now they will have to show an ID when the show up to vote! So, guess what? NO SHOWS!
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https://static.texastribune.org/medi...ted-States.pdf

"Just say NO to Executive Orders"!
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Old 06-23-2016, 01:28 PM   #7
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were gonna see in November.

Ive offered a simple bet to any Trump lovers. . . Trump wins and I'm off this forum for a year. . . Hillary wins - ur off the forum for a year. . . . still no takers.

Cowardice.
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Anyone who has followed this case has to be ALARMED at how the LAWLESS ODUMBO ADMINISTRATION has so thoroughly politicized the Department of Justice and debased the ethical standards of its employees. DOJ lawyers now feel free to LIE TO FEDERAL JUDGES - knowingly, shamelessly and repeatedly!



The Miscarriage of Justice Department

A federal judge slams U.S. lawyers for deceiving the courts on immigrant deportations.


May 22, 2016 5:40 p.m. ET

The constitutional challenge to President Obama’s executive action on immigration keeps getting more remarkable. A federal judge has now exposed how the Justice Department systematically deceived lower courts about the Administration’s conduct, and he has imposed unprecedented legal measures to attempt to sterilize this ethics rot.

On Thursday District Judge Andrew Hanen of Texas found that Obama Administration lawyers committed misconduct that he called “intentional, serious and material.” In 2015 he issued an injunction—now in front of the Supreme Court—blocking Mr. Obama’s 2014 order that rewrote immigration law to award legal status and federal and state benefits to nearly five million aliens.

When 26 states sued to block the order in December 2014, Justice repeatedly assured Judge Hanen that the Department of Homeland Security would not start processing applications until February 2015 at the earliest. Two weeks after the injunction came down, in March, Justice was forced to admit that DHS had already granted or renewed more than 100,000 permits.

Justice has also conceded in legal filings that all its lawyers knew all along that the DHS program was underway, despite what they said in briefs and hearings. One DOJ lawyer told Judge Hanen that “I really would not expect anything between now and the date of the hearing.” As the judge notes, “How the government can categorize the granting of over 100,000 applications as not being ‘anything’ is beyond comprehension.”

Justice’s only explanation is that its lawyers either “lost focus on the fact” or “the fact receded in memory or awareness”—the fact here being realities that the DOJ was required to disclose to the court. The states weren’t able to make certain arguments or seek certain legal remedies because the program supposedly hadn’t been implemented, leaving them in a weaker legal position.

More to the point, an attorney’s first and most basic judicial obligation is to tell the truth. Judge Hanen concludes that the misrepresentations “were made in bad faith” and “it is hard to imagine a more serious, more calculated plan of unethical conduct.” Many a lawyer has been disbarred for less.

As a result, Judge Hanen ordered that any Washington-based Justice lawyer who “appears or seeks to appear” in any state or federal court in the 26 states must first attend a remedial ethics seminar on “candor to the court.” He also ordered Attorney General Loretta Lynch to prepare a “comprehensive plan” to prevent such falsification. Such extraordinary judicial oversight is usually reserved for companies with a pattern of corruption or racially biased police departments. Justice is sure to appeal, and whether Judge Hanen has the jurisdiction to impose his plan is uncharted legal territory.

Yet the misconduct he has unmasked should trouble Americans of all political persuasions. Prosecutors often abuse their powers in run-of-the-mill cases. But this is a constitutional challenge with major consequences for the separation of powers, and the deceit must have required the participation and coordination of dozens of political appointees and career lawyers. That suggests a serious institutional failure, not mere rogue actors.

Maybe Justice may have figured that the state challenge would be tossed for lack of standing, and thus its dissembling wouldn’t matter. This would mean that President Obama’s refusal to recognize the legal limits of his executive power has spread a culture of lawlessness among his lawyers too.

AG Lynch could salvage the credibility of the Justice Department by explaining how this breakdown happened. Whether you worry about how Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump would wield government powers, everyone has an interest in an honest accounting of the facts that were denied to Judge Hanen.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-misc...ent-1463953209
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"AG Lynch could salvage the credibility of the Justice Department by explaining how this breakdown happened. Whether you worry about how Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump would wield government powers, everyone has an interest in an honest accounting of the facts that were denied to Judge Hanen."

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-misc...ent-1463953209

You mean the same Lynch under whom 911 transcripts were redacted and changed?

A Federal Judge's ruling of dishonesty got Bill Clinton disbarred.
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Old 06-23-2016, 03:44 PM   #10
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Is this really a HUGE blow? Wasn't the vote just 4-4?

Don't get me wrong, I'm for kicking some of them out of the country but it sounds, at best, an 8 month victory unless Trump is elected.

What's the immediate fallout? The border patrol folks say they have orders to let certain people into the country and they can't do anything about it or they'll lose their jobs. Once these people get in, they aren't kicked out. The "illegals" just don't show up to court. The SCOTUS can't go to ICE and say "find and deport" these illegals. Obama has already defied court orders once (at least); it's too late to impeach him. At least WTF's building business is safe.
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Anyone who has followed this case has to be ALARMED at how the LAWLESS ODUMBO ADMINISTRATION has so thoroughly politicized the Department of Justice and debased the ethical standards of its employees. DOJ lawyers now feel free to LIE TO FEDERAL JUDGES - knowingly, shamelessly and repeatedly!



The Miscarriage of Justice Department

A federal judge slams U.S. lawyers for deceiving the courts on immigrant deportations.


May 22, 2016 5:40 p.m. ET

The constitutional challenge to President Obama’s executive action on immigration keeps getting more remarkable. A federal judge has now exposed how the Justice Department systematically deceived lower courts about the Administration’s conduct, and he has imposed unprecedented legal measures to attempt to sterilize this ethics rot.

On Thursday District Judge Andrew Hanen of Texas found that Obama Administration lawyers committed misconduct that he called “intentional, serious and material.” In 2015 he issued an injunction—now in front of the Supreme Court—blocking Mr. Obama’s 2014 order that rewrote immigration law to award legal status and federal and state benefits to nearly five million aliens.

When 26 states sued to block the order in December 2014, Justice repeatedly assured Judge Hanen that the Department of Homeland Security would not start processing applications until February 2015 at the earliest. Two weeks after the injunction came down, in March, Justice was forced to admit that DHS had already granted or renewed more than 100,000 permits.

Justice has also conceded in legal filings that all its lawyers knew all along that the DHS program was underway, despite what they said in briefs and hearings. One DOJ lawyer told Judge Hanen that “I really would not expect anything between now and the date of the hearing.” As the judge notes, “How the government can categorize the granting of over 100,000 applications as not being ‘anything’ is beyond comprehension.”

Justice’s only explanation is that its lawyers either “lost focus on the fact” or “the fact receded in memory or awareness”—the fact here being realities that the DOJ was required to disclose to the court. The states weren’t able to make certain arguments or seek certain legal remedies because the program supposedly hadn’t been implemented, leaving them in a weaker legal position.

More to the point, an attorney’s first and most basic judicial obligation is to tell the truth. Judge Hanen concludes that the misrepresentations “were made in bad faith” and “it is hard to imagine a more serious, more calculated plan of unethical conduct.” Many a lawyer has been disbarred for less.

As a result, Judge Hanen ordered that any Washington-based Justice lawyer who “appears or seeks to appear” in any state or federal court in the 26 states must first attend a remedial ethics seminar on “candor to the court.” He also ordered Attorney General Loretta Lynch to prepare a “comprehensive plan” to prevent such falsification. Such extraordinary judicial oversight is usually reserved for companies with a pattern of corruption or racially biased police departments. Justice is sure to appeal, and whether Judge Hanen has the jurisdiction to impose his plan is uncharted legal territory.

Yet the misconduct he has unmasked should trouble Americans of all political persuasions. Prosecutors often abuse their powers in run-of-the-mill cases. But this is a constitutional challenge with major consequences for the separation of powers, and the deceit must have required the participation and coordination of dozens of political appointees and career lawyers. That suggests a serious institutional failure, not mere rogue actors.

Maybe Justice may have figured that the state challenge would be tossed for lack of standing, and thus its dissembling wouldn’t matter. This would mean that President Obama’s refusal to recognize the legal limits of his executive power has spread a culture of lawlessness among his lawyers too.

AG Lynch could salvage the credibility of the Justice Department by explaining how this breakdown happened. Whether you worry about how Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump would wield government powers, everyone has an interest in an honest accounting of the facts that were denied to Judge Hanen.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-misc...ent-1463953209
Nothing of consequence. The judge needs to throw DOJ attorneys in jail. On what charge I don't know; I'm not a lawyer.
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Old 06-23-2016, 05:44 PM   #12
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the SCOTUS probably did Hillary a favor today, the Hispanic vote was inspired to vote against Trump before. . . now the Hispanic vote is inspired to vote for Hillary.

don't bet on it clown. do you think legal Hispanics in this country like seeing their cousins from south of the border not paying their fair share? oh don't bother with that lame argument "Illegals pay taxes!" it's the taxes they don't pay that cost this nation huge money. so they pay tax on all those corona's they buy at the 7-11? and their food for they burritos? big deal. do they pay fed income tax? Nope. State income tax? Nope. do they pay for the schools their little spawn go to? Nope. for state and county services? Nope.

so when Juan and Julio get into a knife fight over some mex slut at the corner cantina who pays for Parkland to sew their guts up? not them. we do. and that includes hispanics here legally.

clown, you are what's wrong with America today. you are a faggot lover, a faggot yourself, a libtard who cannot see the falsehoods of the liberal agenda and even if you could, you'd probably agree with it.

you probably cheered the Muslin in Chief when he had the unmitigated gall to blame the Orlando massacre on .. America. all while his tribers kill each other at alarming rates in Chicago and Detroit. where's the outrage? oh i get it .. it's the guns not the people.

not. it's the people. Africa is 97%+ black, yet even in the most prosperous nations the continent is a war zone. how you gonna spin doctor that on Whitey?

go ahead and try clown.
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Anyone who has followed this case has to be ALARMED at how the LAWLESS ODUMBO ADMINISTRATION has so thoroughly politicized the Department of Justice and debased the ethical standards of its employees. DOJ lawyers now feel free to LIE TO FEDERAL JUDGES - knowingly, shamelessly and repeatedly!



The Miscarriage of Justice Department

A federal judge slams U.S. lawyers for deceiving the courts on immigrant deportations.


May 22, 2016 5:40 p.m. ET

The constitutional challenge to President Obama’s executive action on immigration keeps getting more remarkable. A federal judge has now exposed how the Justice Department systematically deceived lower courts about the Administration’s conduct, and he has imposed unprecedented legal measures to attempt to sterilize this ethics rot.

On Thursday District Judge Andrew Hanen of Texas found that Obama Administration lawyers committed misconduct that he called “intentional, serious and material.” In 2015 he issued an injunction—now in front of the Supreme Court—blocking Mr. Obama’s 2014 order that rewrote immigration law to award legal status and federal and state benefits to nearly five million aliens.

When 26 states sued to block the order in December 2014, Justice repeatedly assured Judge Hanen that the Department of Homeland Security would not start processing applications until February 2015 at the earliest. Two weeks after the injunction came down, in March, Justice was forced to admit that DHS had already granted or renewed more than 100,000 permits.

Justice has also conceded in legal filings that all its lawyers knew all along that the DHS program was underway, despite what they said in briefs and hearings. One DOJ lawyer told Judge Hanen that “I really would not expect anything between now and the date of the hearing.” As the judge notes, “How the government can categorize the granting of over 100,000 applications as not being ‘anything’ is beyond comprehension.”

Justice’s only explanation is that its lawyers either “lost focus on the fact” or “the fact receded in memory or awareness”—the fact here being realities that the DOJ was required to disclose to the court. The states weren’t able to make certain arguments or seek certain legal remedies because the program supposedly hadn’t been implemented, leaving them in a weaker legal position.

More to the point, an attorney’s first and most basic judicial obligation is to tell the truth. Judge Hanen concludes that the misrepresentations “were made in bad faith” and “it is hard to imagine a more serious, more calculated plan of unethical conduct.” Many a lawyer has been disbarred for less.

As a result, Judge Hanen ordered that any Washington-based Justice lawyer who “appears or seeks to appear” in any state or federal court in the 26 states must first attend a remedial ethics seminar on “candor to the court.” He also ordered Attorney General Loretta Lynch to prepare a “comprehensive plan” to prevent such falsification. Such extraordinary judicial oversight is usually reserved for companies with a pattern of corruption or racially biased police departments. Justice is sure to appeal, and whether Judge Hanen has the jurisdiction to impose his plan is uncharted legal territory.

Yet the misconduct he has unmasked should trouble Americans of all political persuasions. Prosecutors often abuse their powers in run-of-the-mill cases. But this is a constitutional challenge with major consequences for the separation of powers, and the deceit must have required the participation and coordination of dozens of political appointees and career lawyers. That suggests a serious institutional failure, not mere rogue actors.

Maybe Justice may have figured that the state challenge would be tossed for lack of standing, and thus its dissembling wouldn’t matter. This would mean that President Obama’s refusal to recognize the legal limits of his executive power has spread a culture of lawlessness among his lawyers too.

AG Lynch could salvage the credibility of the Justice Department by explaining how this breakdown happened. Whether you worry about how Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump would wield government powers, everyone has an interest in an honest accounting of the facts that were denied to Judge Hanen.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-misc...ent-1463953209
As much as this will piss off LustyLardo to have me agree with him, I do.
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As much as this will piss off LustyLardo to have me agree with him, I do.
Why would I be pissed off? Now you can admit the MSM sometimes gets it right.
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Why would I be pissed off? Now you can admit the MSM sometimes gets it right.
It's rare, I'll admit. But the WSJ opinion page does better than most.
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