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Old 07-13-2016, 11:40 PM   #1
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Do sex agencies give them security to make sure the transaction is complete?
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Old 07-14-2016, 08:27 AM   #2
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Depends on whether the client expects to ever hobby again.

And, since some clients yield accurate personal information, those who jerk around indies or agencies should always be looking over their shoulder expecting a spouse, boss or etc. to be getting a call or letter or camera shot of that client with a provider or outside a spa or apartment.

Better to pay a kill fee, imo, unless the intended engagement was way out of focus.

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Old 07-26-2016, 12:46 PM   #3
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Planning on a dine and dash?
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Old 07-27-2016, 09:44 AM   #4
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I always stay away from agencies, I have had many clients paying a big price due to "not as discreet" as they claim to be. I agree, I rather pay more but stay away from agencies and I do my homework here... still, surprises can happen.
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Old 07-27-2016, 09:49 AM   #5
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Try it and see what happens, what could go wrong ? Oh, and report findings please.
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Old 07-28-2016, 11:14 AM   #6
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Do sex agencies give them security to make sure the transaction is complete?
`and who are they going to call? the Cops?

" hi, yes I just sucked the dude off for $150 and did not pay, can i charge him theft of service?"
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Old 07-29-2016, 09:37 AM   #7
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I always get the money up front, and then if there are problems after, I have pinky to protect me and I have a license for her.
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Old 08-03-2016, 09:40 AM   #9
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When clients refuse to pay or short providers, they get blasted on here, the ladies forums and probably on a blacklist.

But, when providers play the YMMV card, B&S, C&D or short a guy on his time, that is just the cost of being in the hobby for guys.

With all things being equal (hygeine is good, respect of time and person, ect.), I have always felt that if a provider can be YMMV on her services, then a client should be able to be YMMV on his fee.
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Old 08-03-2016, 11:58 AM   #10
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When clients refuse to pay or short providers, they get blasted on here, the ladies forums and probably on a blacklist.

But, when providers play the YMMV card, B&S, C&D or short a guy on his time, that is just the cost of being in the hobby for guys.

With all things being equal (hygeine is good, respect of time and person, ect.), I have always felt that if a provider can be YMMV on her services, then a client should be able to be YMMV on his fee.
That is what Reviews are for.. if you pay up front and she does a YMMV deal.. post it. Others read and she gets moved from the "must see" to "lets wait and see" list.. sometimes even removed from all lists.

1 bad review from a reputable member on here goes a long way.. the more bad reviews, the less chance she will get new business. I can only speak for myself but if I see an ad for a new lady and then read some reviews that reflect negatively, I tend to hold off from seeing her if not altogether.

The reason ladies maintain a "Do Not Respond" list is that if a guy screws over 1 lady, then there exists the possibility he will do it them.. why chance it?
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Old 08-03-2016, 12:16 PM   #11
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That is what Reviews are for.. if you pay up front and she does a YMMV deal.. post it. Others read and she gets moved from the "must see" to "lets wait and see" list.. sometimes even removed from all lists.

1 bad review from a reputable member on here goes a long way.. the more bad reviews, the less chance she will get new business. I can only speak for myself but if I see an ad for a new lady and then read some reviews that reflect negatively, I tend to hold off from seeing her if not altogether.

The reason ladies maintain a "Do Not Respond" list is that if a guy screws over 1 lady, then there exists the possibility he will do it them.. why chance it?
Most alerts either way, including bad reviews, are more he said/she said vendetta/agenda related than true alerts. Yes, reviews are for giving an opinion from the reviewer's perspective, but when you have white knights and even the provider herself insulting you and causing drama because of giving her a bad review, then that is why the bad reviews are not posted most of the time.

Of course one bad review on a provider, like one time a guy may have shorted or stiffed a provider on her fee, but there are pages of good reviews on her, there are multiple girls he has seen for sessions and not shorted the fee, then you have to take what the person reporting the negative experience with a grain of salt. Now, if there is a pattern, then that is another story.
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Sometimes 'cash & dash' goes both ways where a client will steal the providers purse. Best to just stay above reproach and your YMMV will go a long way.
Don't piss off the community.
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Old 08-04-2016, 08:34 AM   #13
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When clients refuse to pay or short providers, they get blasted on here, the ladies forums and probably on a blacklist.

But, when providers play the YMMV card, B&S, C&D or short a guy on his time, that is just the cost of being in the hobby for guys.

With all things being equal (hygeine is good, respect of time and person, ect.), I have always felt that if a provider can be YMMV on her services, then a client should be able to be YMMV on his fee.
Good point escorts will blasted clients on websites.No free lunch in paid sessions
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Old 08-04-2016, 09:57 AM   #14
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With all things being equal (hygeine is good, respect of time and person, ect.), I have always felt that if a provider can be YMMV on her services, then a client should be able to be YMMV on his fee.
But you can. And just like with providers who screw over their clients, there are repercussions for doing so. Its all a worth/risk analyses. Do what you feel is right and own the results. Simple.
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Planning on a dine and dash?
+1 that was my first thought as well
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