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Old 03-10-2013, 09:16 AM   #1
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Default Why In The Hell Are American Soldiers STILL Dying in Afganistan.

http://news.msn.com/world/afghan-lea...-are-colluding

This right here should finally be enough to convince President Obama to get every American out of that shit hole by the end of the month.

Just pack up and leave. Period. Let the Muslims, Taliban, or what ever just have it. It's not worth one more American life.
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Old 03-10-2013, 10:23 AM   #2
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Well even if Obama wanted to have them all leave by the end of the month it's not that simple just based on the logistics. However, we do not need to be there- but the fact that Afghan is sitting on billions and some estimates have trillions of untapped resources such as lithium, iron ore ,copper, and natural gas- I think the U.S has interest to stay and I surely don't buy the bullshit that the Afghan army can't protect the company.
The Afghan army is 300,000 strong the taliban at the most is 25,000. The taliban can't man a tank, helicopter, or a jet so for someone to think they can defeat an army of 300,000 is beyond absurd.
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Well even if Obama wanted to have them all leave by the end of the month it's not that simple just based on the logistics. However, we do not need to be there- but the fact that Afghan is sitting on billions and some estimates have trillions of untapped resources such as lithium, iron ore ,copper, and natural gas- I think the U.S has interest to stay and I surely don't buy the bullshit that the Afghan army can't protect the company.
The Afghan army is 300,000 strong the taliban at the most is 25,000. The taliban can't man a tank, helicopter, or a jet so for someone to think they can defeat an army of 300,000 is beyond absurd.
If all those resources are there, we need to get about a trillion dollars worth to pay our bills, since we have saved their ungrateful asses.
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If all those resources are there, we need to get about a trillion dollars worth to pay our bills, since we have saved their ungrateful asses.
I have no problems with that proposal JL
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If all those resources are there, we need to get about a trillion dollars worth to pay our bills, since we have saved their ungrateful asses.
They don't have to defeat any army. All they have to do is carry on a permanent terror campain. It works.

Remember Vietnam. For all general purposes, we defeated the North Vietnamese and Viet Cong in every engagement.

But they won the war.

Oh, by the way. The left is always saying, "no war for oil". Does that go for Lithium, iron, and copper as well?
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We should have left when this administration decided that they didn't want to win.

We should have left (Bush or Obama) Karzid said we weren't welcome.

We should have burned down those caves at Tora Bora with Daisy Cutters and gas bombs back in 2002, and left.

but...

since we didn't leave then we owe to the dead to win and win big. No such thing as a fair fight. We should be in it to win it or get out. If we can't decide what to do then people are dying for nothing.

Conclusion: The operaton was necessary and voted on by both parties. They both own the start. We have lost the will to win and it is obvious to the world. That is owned by Obama, the democrats, and a few republicans.
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Whats the over/under on the assassination of Hamid Karzai, once the US pulls out of the shithole?
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He leaves office soon or there is an election soon to replace him. I expect he will leave the country shortly thereafter with a small....right! a huge fortune in his carry on luggage.
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24 hours
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He leaves office soon or there is an election soon to replace him. I expect he will leave the country shortly thereafter with a small....right! a huge fortune in his carry on luggage.
And where to you think that plane will land, assuming he makes it to Kabul International?

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Londonistan, the taxes are too high in the US.
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Londonistan, the taxes are too high in the US.
Taxes in the U.K. are a hell of a lot higher than they are here.
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But ours are just starting to go up.
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But ours are just starting to go up.
Yeah, but we have a long way to go before we will have even begun to make up much ground. The gap is even larger for taxpayers who are not in the top one percent of the income distribution.

Meanwhile, the Brits will move the goalposts to the maximum extent politically practicable.
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Obama has only four more years to reach his goal. Kind of like a telethon.
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