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Old 10-31-2014, 11:29 AM   #76
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Not to worry right wingers the republicans have countered with "crosscheck" the most inaccurate computer program to disqualify the democrats from voting.
I'll take that as acknowledgement that you believe that there is voter fraud but tell me this, why don't the democrats (such as yourself) get on board with some way to combat this same fraud. You sound like someone who finally admits that your daughter is turning tricks but can't acknowledge that line of men standing outside your house.
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Old 10-31-2014, 11:30 AM   #77
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Check this out. Campaign officials ENCOURAGING non-citizens to vote.

http://toprightnews.com/?p=6966


That video is amazing and appalling. Not only is it a felony for a non-citizen to vote, it's also a felony for a campaign worker to advise or INSTRUCT a non-citizen on how to vote. What are the chances any of those SOBs will be prosecuted? Close to zero. This is the country we live in. Democrats can shit all over the laws and get away with it!

At the end of the story it says - "Without a photo Voter ID law, NOTHING can stop them from voting." This is untrue. Most illegal immigrants have a photo ID such as a driver's license. They won't be stopped by requiring them to show it. We need to clean up our voter registration rolls. This can only be done if the feds cooperate. We also need to post signs at all polling stations stating it is a CLASS I FELONY for someone who is not a citizen of the United States to vote in our elections.

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Old 10-31-2014, 12:25 PM   #78
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I'll take that as acknowledgement that you believe that there is voter fraud but tell me this, why don't the democrats (such as yourself) get on board with some way to combat this same fraud. You sound like someone who finally admits that your daughter is turning tricks but can't acknowledge that line of men standing outside your house.
Take it for what it says not what you think it says. If your daughter is turning tricks and is like you she is starving.
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At the end of the story it says - "Without a photo Voter ID law, NOTHING can stop them from voting." This is untrue. Most illegal immigrants have a photo ID such as a driver's license. They won't be stopped by requiring them to show it. We need to clean up our voter registration rolls. This can only be done if the feds cooperate. We also need to post signs at all polling stations stating it is a CLASS I FELONY for someone who is not a citizen of the United States to vote in our elections.

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While I disagree that all the fraud is done by Dems I do agree that the ID thing is waste of time and I believe is going to hurt more citizens than illegals.
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Old 10-31-2014, 01:05 PM   #80
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While I disagree that all the fraud is done by Dems I do agree that the ID thing is waste of time and I believe is going to hurt more citizens than illegals.
There is no real proof of that. The only thing offered is demagoguery. I heard something yesterday on the radio that rebuts some of what you may think. This research says that some people don't have any form of acceptable ID but the white population is more affected than either the black or hispanic populations. So that should make the left happy if this was really about racism which it isn't. This is about politics plain and simple plus winning at any cost even if the win is illegitimate.
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Old 10-31-2014, 01:11 PM   #81
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While I disagree that all the fraud is done by Dems I do agree that the ID thing is waste of time and I believe is going to hurt more citizens than illegals.
I used mine yesterday. It didn't hurt a bit.

Es mejor por usted, bobo? Era fácil y tenía poco tiempo. De nada, bobo.
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Old 10-31-2014, 02:35 PM   #82
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While I disagree that all the fraud is done by Dems I do agree that the ID thing is waste of time and I believe is going to hurt more citizens than illegals.
Why are people here illegally getting driver's licenses? What the hell is wrong with this system?
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Old 10-31-2014, 02:48 PM   #83
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Why are people here illegally getting driver's licenses? What the hell is wrong with this system?

They have to be on a voter list with the swipe of the card matching the info on the list, and the pic matching them, with a couple of questions asked to verify the information with them looking you in the eyes. Unbearably painful and chilling for the right to vote.

I mean, my God, that's the same as applying for a welfare check!
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Old 10-31-2014, 03:50 PM   #84
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I used mine yesterday. It didn't hurt a bit.

Es mejor por usted, bobo? Era fácil y tenía poco tiempo. De nada, bobo.
10000000 White folks are estimated to not have proper ID and 4000000 Blacks.
That means that 2 white for every black is gonna lose the chance to vote.
6000000 Hispanic's will be effected.
Basically you are trading 1 white vote for one minority vote.
Just remember that as you have already determined Minority's vote Dem and White are split. So who is the potential loser here?
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Old 10-31-2014, 09:58 PM   #85
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10000000 White folks are estimated to not have proper ID and 4000000 Blacks.
That means that 2 white for every black is gonna lose the chance to vote.
6000000 Hispanic's will be effected.
Basically you are trading 1 white vote for one minority vote.
Just remember that as you have already determined Minority's vote Dem and White are split. So who is the potential loser here?
We all are potential losers when non-citizens are allowed to vote. A person's color should be irrelevant. Let's quit packing people into ideological boxes and understand that our rights, which we are losing at an alarming rate, are individual rights, not group rights.
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Old 11-01-2014, 04:26 AM   #86
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We all are potential losers when non-citizens are allowed to vote. A person's color should be irrelevant. Let's quit packing people into ideological boxes and understand that our rights, which we are losing at an alarming rate, are individual rights, not group rights.
There are no perfect systems but would you rather keep 10 real Americans from voting to protect against one illegal from voting?

Surely we can come up with a system where no Americans are turned away at the polls.

We should not have a system where the GOP shuts down voting on the Sunday before the Tuesday election because that is when African American like to vote.

We should strive for a system where all are encouraged to vote.
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10000000 White folks are estimated to not have proper ID and 4000000 Blacks.
That means that 2 white for every black is gonna lose the chance to vote.
6000000 Hispanic's will be effected.
Basically you are trading 1 white vote for one minority vote.
Just remember that as you have already determined Minority's vote Dem and White are split. So who is the potential loser here?
These numbers are only significant and relevant if ...

1. those persons are eligible to vote and
2. those persons would vote, and then of course
3. if the "estimates" are accurate.
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Old 11-01-2014, 05:21 AM   #88
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There are no perfect systems but would you rather keep 10 real Americans from voting to protect against one illegal from voting?
Interesting choice of words. You admit you don't consider the people building your shitty houses to even be Americans - so your houses, like you, are UnAmerican.
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Old 11-01-2014, 07:20 AM   #89
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We all are potential losers when non-citizens are allowed to vote. A person's color should be irrelevant. Let's quit packing people into ideological boxes and understand that our rights, which we are losing at an alarming rate, are individual rights, not group rights.
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Interesting choice of words. You admit you don't consider the people building your shitty houses to even be Americans - so your houses, like you, are UnAmerican.
WTF has difficulty being consistent across the scope of his AGENDAS.

His "LEADER" in the White House is afflicted with the same deficiency.

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