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Old Yesterday, 02:21 PM   #46
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Let them follow the Ukranian constitution then if they want to secede.
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So, you think trump ~isn't~ enriching his family and friends, as well as himself? Wow. Lol. He's selling MAGA merch inside the White House, for fuck's sake. And that's just one, tiny example.

Give Ukraine back every inch of territory Putin has illegally stolen, try Putin for war crimes in the Hague, hold new elections in Russia for his replacement. That's the only "peace deal" worth accepting.
You can want that and feel that it’s just, but it doesn’t change the reality that it’s not going to happen. The only way Russians will be dislodged is with American troops on the ground and in the air. Maybe you feel strongly enough about the matter that thousands of American lives and a hot war with Russia is a worthwhile endeavor. I do not. On this we will have to agree to disagree.

Selling merch ≠ selling your country for 100k/month noshow jobs for your wholly unqualified kids and brother, BTW.
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Let them follow the Ukranian constitution then if they want to secede.
Like the American political machine facilitated coup in Kiev? I’m no expert on the Ukrainian constitution, but am pretty sure that’s not in it.
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Whattaboutism. They have a mechanism that doesn't involve sham referendums and armed takeovers by foreign nations.
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So what’s good for the goose is no good for the gander.

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False equivalence and Russisn taling points won't win the day
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False equivalence and Russisn taling points won't win the day

Russia has already won. they won before it even started. there was never any way Ukraine could win.

does anyone know or realize there was a civil war in Ukraine? that western Ukraine hates Eastern Ukraine? and Eastern Ukraine hates western Ukraine?


this is not the US issue to solve. it's the issue of Ukraine and the pro-Russian militants in eastern Ukraine to resolve. any biased nonsense that this is Trump's problem to solve is a fool of the left media or just an idiot. or you just hate Trump for the sake of it.


fuck Ukraine fuck Russia America First!!!


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No, they haven't. They failed in their blitzkrieg and failed every single day since.

And while you don't think it's a U.S. issue to solve you're dead wrong. Plus, the RIC vowed to end the war but has failed on that every day since inauguration day. No peace talks. No himhaw over weapons shipments. No minerals deal. No security guarantees.

Well, except for those agreements we signed.

Fib to yourself as needed.
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this is not the US issue to solve. it's the issue of Ukraine and the pro-Russian militants in eastern Ukraine to resolve. any biased nonsense that this is trump's problem to solve is a fool of the left media or just an idiot. or you just hate trump for the sake of it.
Then why did trump campaign on solving it? He lied to everyone about how he would solve it "on day one" or even before he took office. Why? Why did anyone believe him? He's a professional liar.
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No, they haven't. They failed in their blitzkrieg and failed every single day since.

And while you don't think it's a U.S. issue to solve you're dead wrong. Plus, the RIC vowed to end the war but has failed on that every day since inauguration day. No peace talks. No himhaw over weapons shipments. No minerals deal. No security guarantees.

Well, except for those agreements we signed.

Fib to yourself as needed.

Ummmm.

I don't remember what Joe Biden did to stop the war?

Why didn't your messiah solve it before Trump took office?
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Ummmm.

I don't remember what Joe Biden did to stop the war?

Why didn't your messiah solve it before Trump took office?
Joe never claimed that he could "solve it". That came from 47.

Joe said he stood with Ukraine as did the US congress- which it still does today- I'm not sure that DJT has made any bigger assertion than that- except that he invited Putin to lunch and Putin told him to fuck off with his halibut n filet bullshit- he was heading back to the kremlin to tell his crownies how Trump rolled out the "RED Carpet" for him and let him ride in the car while Trump shit himself.

Trump has been the only person claiming to be Monty Hall and lets make a deal with any of the parties in the UKraine Russia dance.

Joe got not only financial support for Ukraine, but upped the level of arms and aide- and got the other nations to kick in 5 billion in support and Sanctions Against Russia. Joe got Europe to implement numerous sanctions packages against Russia to weaken its economy and diminish its ability to wage war in Ukraine.

This includes financial measures, trade restrictions, and bans on energy imports from Russia including Decoupling from Russian Energy.

But other than that- Joe never said he could stop that war- cause he knew thats a fools errand and unlike Trump-- he knew Putin was a liar and would claim one thing, and then back out. Trump found out that Russia has been pushing bullshit uphill since about a month ago. Finally catching on....but he thinks Vladdy Daddy likes him and will likely make a deal, cause he made Donnie boy get all caught up in his feels.

"I think he wants to make a deal for me," Trump told French President Emmanuel Macron in the exchange. "Do you understand? As crazy as it sounds."



Yes, that does sound crazy. Because it is crazy. Trump, as always, is mistaking manipulation for respect. In the place of logic he has unquenchable narcissism. Putin, a former KGB agent, has Trump’s heart (and who knows what else) and can play him like a fiddle.

Trumpy got all caught up in his feels- You know- 'All warm inside'- like giant overcooked bratwurst before it explodes.

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Ummmm.

I don't remember what Joe Biden did to stop the war?

Why didn't your messiah solve it before Trump took office?
Lol, Biden wasn't my messiah. I didn't vote for him. Joe didn't go anywhere near far enough to kit up Ukraine and was slow to let them use long-range weapons.

Alas, nothing he can do now as this is Trump's shitshow that he told us all he could solve in a single day. What day are we on again?

How many 2 week extensions on Russia? Goes in talking hard and comes out of his talks with Vlad wiping off his chins with no ceasefire or peace deals and. Russian media protesting him as a laughingstock
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