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07-25-2017, 02:02 PM
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Democrats with dreams of impeachment should consider how Iran-Contra turned out
https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/201...ls-impeachment
By the end of the investigations, the secretary of defense, two national security advisers, the assistant secretary of state, and 10 others would be indicted.
And yet Iran-Contra did not bring the Reagan administration to a sudden halt (though it did take a toll on the president’s poll numbers, which plummeted from 63 percent in late October 1986 to 47 percent by December). While 11 of the 14 indictments turned into convictions — for such crimes as conspiracy, perjury, and obstruction — most slates were wiped clean either through the appeals process or through a raft of pardons issued by Reagan’s successor, George H.W. Bush. (Imagine how imminent Trump’s fall might seem if a raft of top officials were not only indicted but convicted.)
Bush, for his part, had been implicated in the scandal as Reagan’s vice president, having withheld (for example) subpoenaed diary entries that indicated his full knowledge of the arms-for-hostages deal. And Reagan left office with sky-high approval ratings: 63 percent approved of the job he was doing, higher than any postwar president at the time.
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07-25-2017, 02:35 PM
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Democrats with a brain want to move on.
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07-25-2017, 04:53 PM
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More than one Dim has said no there there. But like the topic of Sarah Palin, they keep bringing up something that has no payout and then complain about it "not going away."
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07-25-2017, 05:40 PM
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More than one Dim has said no there there. But like the topic of Sarah Palin, they keep bringing up something that has no payout and then complain about it "not going away."
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Actually Trump with his tweeter account keeps this thing alive.
A blind man can see that Trump was in bed with the Russians but that same blind man can tell nothing will come of it. The GOP holds both houses. The only way they get rid of Trump is if his own party turns on him....which they could do because Pence is a better 2020 option imho.
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07-25-2017, 06:56 PM
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Actually Trump with his tweeter account keeps this thing alive.
A blind man can see that Trump was in bed with the Russians but that same blind man can tell nothing will come of it. The GOP holds both houses. The only way they get rid of Trump is if his own party turns on him....which they could do because Pence is a better 2020 option imho.
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Maybe Mueller should hire a blind man, nobody else can find any evidence of collusion . What a dunce.
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07-25-2017, 09:52 PM
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Democrats with a brain want to move on.
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their brain has been hallowed out.
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07-25-2017, 10:07 PM
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Actually Trump with his tweeter account keeps this thing alive.
A blind man can see that Trump was in bed with the Russians .....
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Please present your evidence. Simply "being in bed with Russians" is not an impeachable offense.
Moronic buffoon.
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07-25-2017, 10:29 PM
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And what gets me is we see things like Wassmerman shults, having her IT guy SMASH hard drives from the DNC hack, rather than hand them over.. YET has not been arrested for destruction of evidence??
Or that Rabid illegal invader supporter, Rep Luis Gutierrez, who has on TV Admitted that his family has been using STOLEN Identities.... And are all in the country illegally..
SO WHY has he not been arrested?? OR ANY of the dems who are willfully supporting him??
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07-25-2017, 10:36 PM
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Please present your evidence. Simply "being in bed with Russians" is not an impeachable offense.
Moronic buffoon.
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If you could comprehend the jest of the article, you'd know I already thought he was not being impeached.
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07-26-2017, 05:12 AM
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If you could comprehend the jest of the article, you'd know I already thought he was not being impeached.
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Yeah, but at least he can spell "buffoon" correctly! It's not "Baffon"!!!!
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07-26-2017, 08:42 AM
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Yeah, but at least he can spell "buffoon" correctly! It's not "Baffon"!!!!
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07-26-2017, 09:26 AM
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Did you attend Asswipes course for posting stupid memes to try and make your point? Your "least" IQ shows up everyday.
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07-26-2017, 11:33 AM
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And what gets me is we see things like Wassmerman shults, having her IT guy SMASH hard drives from the DNC hack, rather than hand them over.. YET has not been arrested for destruction of evidence??
Or that Rabid illegal invader supporter, Rep Luis Gutierrez, who has on TV Admitted that his family has been using STOLEN Identities.... And are all in the country illegally..
SO WHY has he not been arrested?? OR ANY of the dems who are willfully supporting him??
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there's big difference between the two parties
as is readily apparent and evident, republicans believe in proper oversight of the administrative branch of government
so when its this Russian thing even though they are in charge they investigate their own
or when it was Nixon- ditto
dimocrats, however, witch hunt republicans and stonewall when its dimocrats
all the scandals under Obama, or the corruption and ineptness of hellary, or the dnc server?- stonewall after stonewall
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07-26-2017, 11:39 AM
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there's big difference between the two parties
as is readily apparent and evident, republicans believe in proper oversight of the administrative branch of government
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You have serious mental issues if you really nelieve tjat shit.
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07-26-2017, 02:35 PM
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all the scandals under Obama, or the corruption and ineptness of hellary, or the dnc server?- stonewall after stonewall
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And even when there were evidence presented in their investigations, NO ONE ever got charged...
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