Putin Offers Peace in Exchange for Control of Donbas

[The_Waco_Kid]

here's the deal. Ukraine can take it or else good luck.





Putin Offers Peace in Exchange for Control of Donbas

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/saraha...onbas-n2661946


President Donald Trump has voiced support for a peace proposal reportedly offered by Russian President Vladimir Putin. The deal would see Russia take complete control of the Donbas region in exchange for freezing the fighting along the rest of the front lines — a move that could halt years of violence and bring much-needed stability to the area.



According to a European diplomat, Trump’s Friday meeting with Putin in Alaska focused on serious negotiations, with the Russian President reaffirming his interest in securing the Luhansk and Donetsk regions, the central regions of the contested Donbas area. In return, Moscow would halt its advance in other places such as Zaporizhzhia and Kherson.


However, Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky has so far resisted any proposal that involves ceding Ukrainian territory, notably the remaining 30 percent of Donetsk still under Kyiv’s control. Trump has taken a pragmatic stance. After follow-up conversations with Zelensky and European leaders, President Trump emphasized on social media Saturday that the goal should be a full peace agreement, not just another temporary ceasefire that risks falling apart.



“It was determined by all that the best way to end the horrific war between Russia and Ukraine is to go directly to a Peace Agreement,” Trump wrote, “which would end the war, and not a mere Ceasefire Agreement, which often times do not hold up.”


His comments represent a shift from President Trump, who had previously signaled openness to a ceasefire. His focus now appears to be on securing a durable peace that protects lives and restores some measure of order in Eastern Europe/



Meanwhile, German Chancellor Friedrich Merz noted that President Trump conveyed Russia’s willingness to negotiate based on current battle lines rather than pre-war administrative borders.



Although European leaders have stopped short of endorsing Trump’s direction outright, they issued a statement thanking him for his efforts to bring the war to an end.



Putin called his meeting in Alaska with President Trump a “very frank” meeting and reiterated his interest in ending the conflict through diplomacy. Speaking from the Kremlin, he acknowledged the Trump team's focus on ending hostilities, saying, “We would like to move to resolving all issues by peaceful means.”


Looking forward, Zelensky is set to meet with Trump at the White House on Monday, a meeting that could prove pivotal in determining whether peace is on the horizon.

[ICU 812]

A tag line from the first three Star Wars movies was, "I have a bad feeling about this."

And Peace-For-Dombas gives me that same bad feeling. I am thinking that Putin and his brutality in conquest has most Ukrainians pretty negative on letting him and the Russians have control of anything. If President Trump manages to economically bludgeon them into any agreement that allows Russia to control any of Ukraine, I believe that soon after , if not immediately, there will be a resistance movement that makes the progressive left look like recess at kindergatrten.

The issue of the kidnapped children alone alone will be a festering reminder. . . . .Russia will never be able to account for them all, or even repatriate most of them. The resistance of southern society in the US after the Civil War is nothing compared to what may be bout take place in Ukraine if what Putin he wants comes to pass.

Even if there was a Putin friendly puppet government in place, being a Russian anywhere inside Ukraine's pre-2014 borders will be risky. Civilian actions unsponsored by what ever formal Ukraine government there is will target Russian s and their infra structure with homemade munitions. Lookout what Hmas has been able to do with sugar and fertilizer for rocket fuel. Look at what the Israeli secret services did with pagers and cell phones.

Worse than the "peace": With the eastern quarter of Ukraine in Russian hands, whenever we get another Obama or Biden in the White House, Putin will simply invade again. But this time they will have a springboard for a heavy push directly through the wide-open plains of Ukraine's farmland.. . . .and it will start all over again.

I have a bad feeling about this . . .I do indeed.

[1blackman1]

Can’t trust Putin to hold to any deal so there’s that. Why don’t the Russians pull back from everywhere and go home as a show of good faith and call a cease fire rather than continuing to prosecute their war. The reason is simple, they have no intention of stopping.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

A tag line from the first three Star Wars movies was, "I have a bad feeling about this."

And Peace-For-Dombas gives me that same bad feeling. I am thinking that Putin and his brutality in conquest has most Ukrainians pretty negative on letting him and the Russians have control of anything. If President Trump manages to economically bludgeon them into any agreement that allows Russia to control any of Ukraine, I believe that soon after , if not immediately, there will be a resistance movement that makes the progressive left look like recess at kindergatrten.

The issue of the kidnapped children alone alone will be a festering reminder. . . . .Russia will never be able to account for them all, or even repatriate most of them. The resistance of southern society in the US after the Civil War is nothing compared to what may be bout take place in Ukraine if what Putin he wants comes to pass.

Even if there was a Putin friendly puppet government in place, being a Russian anywhere inside Ukraine's pre-2014 borders will be risky. Civilian actions unsponsored by what ever formal Ukraine government there is will target Russian s and their infra structure with homemade munitions. Lookout what Hmas has been able to do with sugar and fertilizer for rocket fuel. Look at what the Israeli secret services did with pagers and cell phones.

Worse than the "peace": With the eastern quarter of Ukraine in Russian hands, whenever we get another Obama or Biden in the White House, Putin will simply invade again. But this time they will have a springboard for a heavy push directly through the wide-open plains of Ukraine's farmland.. . . .and it will start all over again.

I have a bad feeling about this . . .I do indeed.

I have a bad feeling about this as well. The Ukrainians have suffered under the Russians for centuries. I'm sure the Holodomor is still in peoples remembrances. Famine is something that families remember across generations. Just ask the Irish.


Holodomor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor


You want to know why there are so many Russian speaking people in the Donbas. Because Stalin killed all the native Ukranians and replaced them with Russians.


The hatred of Ukraine against the Soviets was so intense they originally hailed the Nazi's when they invaded in 1941 as liberators.


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In 1984, the United States Congress established the U.S. Commission on the Ukraine Famine, which compiled its 1988 Report to Congress. In the report, the US government concludes with anecdotal evidence, that the Soviets had purposely prevented Ukrainians from leaving famine-struck regions. This was corroborated following the discovery of Stalin's letter to Molotov titled, "Preventing the Mass Exodus of Peasants who are Starving", restricting travel by peasants after "in the Kuban and Ukraine a massive outflow of peasants 'for bread' has begun", that "like the outflow from Ukraine last year, was organized by the enemies of Soviet power." The commission published the earlier-mentioned letter written by Stalin to Lazar Kaganovich on 11 September 1932.


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Festering reminder indeed.

[VitaMan]

Never seen Trump so happy