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Old 11-15-2012, 01:07 AM   #1
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Default Egypt Vows Response To Israeli Attack In Gaza



Egypt’s Islamist Freedom and Justice Party, the political wing of the Muslim Brotherhood, has vowed a response to Israel’s attack Wednesday on Palestinians in Gaza City.

An Israeli airstrike killed the operational commander of Hamas’s military wing, the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades. Israel accused Ahmed al-Jaabari of capturing the IDF soldier Gilad Shalit in 2006. Shalit was released on October 18, 2011, as part of a prisoner exchange deal.

A Muslim Brotherhood statement said Egypt “will not allow the Palestinians to be subjected to Israeli aggression, as in the past.” It also demanded a “swift Arab and international action to stop the massacres” in Gaza and said Israel “must take into account the changes in the Arab region and especially Egypt.”

Following the ouster of Egyptian dictator Hosni Mubarak, the Muslim Brotherhood established the Freedom and Justice Party. In June, the Muslim Brotherhood won the Egyptian election and Mohamed Morsi became the first president-elect of Egypt following the 2011 Egyptian revolution.

Morsi had supported the Palestinians before his election and was expected to open the blockaded Gaza Strip bordering Egypt, but the government eventually backed away from the pledge.

The Egyptian warning comes as the IDF states it may initiate a ground operation in the Gaza Strip. “All options are on the table. If necessary, the IDF is ready to initiate a ground operation in Gaza,” a tweet from an IDF spokesman said.

The Foundation for Defense of Democracies, a neocon organization in the United States, told the Washington Post Israel may move to further “neutralize Hamas in Gaza” in the coming days.

Beginning in the 1970s, Israel gave direct and indirect financial aid to Hamas in an “attempt to divide and dilute support for a strong, secular PLO by using a competing religious alternative,” a CIA official told UPI in 2002.

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Old 11-15-2012, 08:05 AM   #2
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This thing is gonna get ugly. I hate to see it.
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Old 11-15-2012, 08:38 AM   #3
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This thing is gonna get ugly.
Unfortunately, Egypt doesn't see it. Never did before. The Iranians cannot wage a surrogate war with Israel any more than the Russians could. The Saudis will stay on the side lines, along with Iraq and Syria, which is currently sucking itself dry. Recent events have reduced the influence of the WH and the Israelis can apply "The Solution" generously, pointedly, and effectively. It's a perfect storm favoring the Isrealis.
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Old 11-15-2012, 08:57 AM   #4
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And the beat goes on.
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:22 AM   #5
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Where are the wingers condemning them for drone attacks like they do Obue?
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:45 AM   #6
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Where are the wingers condemning them for drone attacks like they do Obue?
Who was condemning drone attacks?

I thought the critics were complaining because there was a lack of drone attacks ...

.. in Libya!!!!!

Drones are great as long as they are "friendly" and the bad guys are dying!

They are so "nintendo-sanitary" ... and the operator comes home unscathed.

For the record, I think it has been the anti-war, peacenik, liberal crowd whining.
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:56 AM   #7
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Unfortunately, Egypt doesn't see it. Never did before. The Iranians cannot wage a surrogate war with Israel any more than the Russians could. The Saudis will stay on the side lines, along with Iraq and Syria, which is currently sucking itself dry. Recent events have reduced the influence of the WH and the Israelis can apply "The Solution" generously, pointedly, and effectively. It's a perfect storm favoring the Isrealis.
You are totally wrong Dude, and the strategic situation is exactly the opposite of what you claim.

Israel's nuclear weapons make it invulnerable to a conventional or nuclear attack.

However Israel's enemies have many other options short of war to inflict suffering on Israel.

As long as the US had bought off the governments in Egypt, Jordan and elsewhere the Israelis were spared these countries support for militant Palestinians.

But that's being swept away.

If the Israelis adopted a less strident government they might have some chance of escaping the onslaught that will otherwise befall them. However the Israeli right I think will always govern, and they will continue their settlement and occupation of the West Bank.
The continuing settlement of the West Bank is the rub in all this, and it leads everyone to the conclusion that hegemony over all of Palestine was the Israeli agenda from the beginning.
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:13 AM   #8
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You are totally wrong Dude, and the strategic situation is exactly the opposite of what you claim.
You should stick with escorts in Austin. 1st anyone who calls someone "Dude" couldn't find their ass with both hands outside of Travis County; #2 the "strategic situation" has always favored Israel so long as Israel was not "required" to comply with U.S. requests to "stand down."

While the "regular" Arabic enemies are imploding with their own corruptness and political conflicts their meager "guard" are trying to protect the threatened monarchs and self-annointed saviors ... so given their weakened and distracted condition they cannot even fantasize of mustering an adequate response to the Israelis.

Nuclear weapons are off the table in the decision making. That's a last strike option only, which will be a deterrent. Sounds good in the media from both sides, but like WWII..... the "scientists" know better... and so do the economists.

Apparently, you weren't around in the mid-60's!
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:28 AM   #9
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Who was condemning drone attacks?

I thought the critics were complaining because there was a lack of drone attacks ...

.. in Libya!!!!!

Drones are great as long as they are "friendly" and the bad guys are dying!

They are so "nintendo-sanitary" ... and the operator comes home unscathed.

For the record, I think it has been the anti-war, peacenik, liberal crowd whining.

Nope there have many complaining about Obie's hit list.They are the "boots on the ground"group...
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:00 PM   #10
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Nope there have many complaining about Obie's hit list.They are the "boots on the ground"group...
Now it's a "hit list" ... I thought you were talking about drone attacks ... and ...

.............. just who is the "boots on the ground" group?

They are whining because of a "hit list"? Or drones? I thought that was ..

.. ACLU!

Wheeewwwwwwwwww..

.... caught it for an edit before you further humiliated yourself .....

"In a statement emailed to reporters, the American Civil Liberties Union slammed the White House for creating a special hitlist of terrorists, which it calls a “disposition matrix.” According to the Washington Post, a database to create the list has been in development for two years.
The ACLU has filed a pair of Freedom of Information Act requests regarding the database as as well as a lawsuit challenging its constitutionality."

http://washingtonexaminer.com/aclu-s...rticle/2511594

Them friggin "wingers"!!!!!!!!!!

The "boots" the ACLU has "on the ground" are baby booties.
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:05 PM   #11
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Oh boy here we go.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-...tel-aviv-area/
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:18 PM   #12
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the "strategic situation" has always favored Israel so long as Israel was not "required" to comply with U.S. requests to "stand down."

When has the US ever asked Israel to back down? Just once over being hit by scuds in 1991. Otherwise the Israelis always do what they want, and the US only gripes a little bit about it. Other than their nuclear options the strategic situation has always been dire regarding Israel. Until 2003 Iraq represented a huge long-term threat. The corrolation of other forces against Israel has always put Israel at a huge disadvantage, which is why Israel has always chosen to preempt. Only 1973 was an exception to this, and they only survived because of last-ditch American efforts. And both in 1982 and in 2006
they had their heads handed to them in Lebanon.

While the "regular" Arabic enemies are imploding with their own corruptness and political conflicts their meager "guard" are trying to protect the threatened monarchs and self-annointed saviors ... so given their weakened and distracted condition they cannot even fantasize of mustering an adequate response to the Israelis.

The Arab monarchs are all allied with Israel. The Saudis and other "sheiks" support Israel covertly in all kinds of ways.

The governments which were potentially hostile though, those in Egypt, Jordan and Syria, are henceforth not going to be benign any longer.

When Assad is replaced in Syria, and Jordan finds itself isolated between Syria and Egypt once again as before 1970, Israel will be in a real pickel.

Nuclear weapons are off the table in the decision making. That's a last strike option only, which will be a deterrent. Sounds good in the media from both sides, but like WWII..... the "scientists" know better... and so do the economists.

You are so wrong that you're information must come from comic books. The Israelis have been all over the world, everyplace, dropping hints about their plans to use nuclear weapons in all kinds of tactical applications..including to destroy Iranian infrastructure.

Frankly I don't believe they'd ever do it, and they're just bluffing, but to say what you did given their behavior is really wacked Dude.


Apparently, you weren't around in the mid-60's!
I remember quite well watching the televison coverage of the 1967 war, which was wall-to-wall television coverage at the UN, and the 1973 war, which was also quite entertaining, and the 1982 invasion of Lebanon, and 2006.

The only wars I missed out on were the war of independence and the 1956 war when Israel conspired with the English and French in a false flag operation and Eisenhower spanked the Israeli's ass.
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We need to send a woman over there to help us talk about this.
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I remember quite well watching the televison coverage of the 1967 war, ....
... and I was living among Iraqis just before your television days and teaching them to drive motor vehicles, since they had never driven one before. Sorry you missed it all.
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Now it's a "hit list" ... I thought you were talking about drone attacks ... and ...

.............. just who is the "boots on the ground" group?

They are whining because of a "hit list"? Or drones? I thought that was ..

.. ACLU!

Wheeewwwwwwwwww..

.... caught it for an edit before you further humiliated yourself .....

"In a statement emailed to reporters, the American Civil Liberties Union slammed the White House for creating a special hitlist of terrorists, which it calls a “disposition matrix.” According to the Washington Post, a database to create the list has been in development for two years.
The ACLU has filed a pair of Freedom of Information Act requests regarding the database as as well as a lawsuit challenging its constitutionality."

http://washingtonexaminer.com/aclu-s...rticle/2511594

Them friggin "wingers"!!!!!!!!!!

The "boots" the ACLU has "on the ground" are baby booties.


yep that is the hit list the wingers have been bitching about.Looks like you got some support.good luck...
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