I was asked for advice by a newbie provider...

[mightifyouask]

A very attractive and very earnest young lady that I spent some quality time with was interested in my feedback. This is what I wrote her. I'm curious what you guys think, what you would add, what you do or don't agree with. I'm all for raising the bar for all the hobbyists out there, both men and women.

Guys who are consistently willing to spend $300+/hour to hang out with a girl are looking for a certain level of presentation. They don't all have the same taste of course but there are some common baselines.

The good news is you're smart, gorgeous, and interested in learning, so you're already ahead of the curve starting out.

These are some notes I'd give:

-Don't show up smelling like weed (or alcohol or anything really, even perfume.) Ideally, show up stone cold sober. If the guy offers drinks, other party favors, or whatever, and you're down, by all means imbibe. Whether it's true or not, showing up under any sort of influence gives the impression you had to get some "help" to hang out with the guy. Not the fantasy that most are looking for.

-Tone down the IOP. No need to go from 0 to 100 super quick. It should feel real. Like it would with a boyfriend or a guy in your real life. Try to get into the moment; make it subtle and as true as you can. Most of these guys have a lot of experience with women both in and out of the hobby and can pick up on theatrics quickly. Personally, I'd prefer a girl not to fake orgasms, excitement, or even interest. And if they do, it should be good enough that they even fool themselves.

-Don't check the time. Ever. A hundred dollar trick can run a stop watch if she wants but a high class escort has other, much more subtle methods of keeping track of the meeting and controlling the flow of activities. Find something low key that works for you and use it. Just make sure the guys don't know.

-You totally don't have to be down with CIM (although for me, those are the girls that break the bank &#128522 You should however, not act like it grosses you out at any point. Simply redirect. Remember, you control the situation, but it's about the guy. If a guy says he wants to come in your mouth, tell him you really want him to come on your tits/face/stomach/ass/whatever. Mean it and make it sexy and it will never be an issue. Making the guy feel like he grossed you out isn't what most of them are looking for.

-Invest in regular mani/pedis. It should be a regular thing. I honestly don't know what your personal stance is (I don't think we ever got your stockings off ; ) but it's super important for top tier providers. Remember, it's all about the details...

You're young and that's great. It's also a bit of a paradox as most guys love the idea of being with a fresh faced young hottie, but at the same time they want a certain level of sophistication and maturity. It's a hard line to walk, but if you can pull it off, you'll run this shit like a boss.

I hope you read this in the spirit that it was written; as a helpful opinion from someone who thinks you're great and wants to see you succeed at whatever you'd like to pursue.

Stay in touch.

[Guest021217]

I hope this isn't a pm

[Old-T]

It should not matter--I have been told by several mods on several different occasions that the author of a PM essentially owns its contents and can talk about it. It is against the rules to reveal what someone else wrote to you in a PM. In this case, since it was his PM and he did not revel who he wrote it to, there is no reason (logically) for it to run afoul of any rules. Of course I do understand mods may have different interpretations.

[Iron Butterfly]

Not sure why you would choos to share this! This kind of mentoring is best kept between the two parties and not in an open discussion, just my 2c

IB

[dodger]

i tell my provider that they control the session. i want the lady to be comfortable. this means i need to know before i book that all the activities i enjoy will be available to me.

i depend on reviews to provide good info. i will describe what i consider to be my fantasy and ask if she thinks we would enjoy a session together. for example, i enjoy kissing, smooching. was pretty far along the booking process when the lady informs me .. no kissing. she has an SO and is not comfortable kissing other men (taking their cocks in her mouth, OK ... kissing, no. it takes all kinds).

so .. in addition to all the other stuff. .. communicate well.

ps: dorthy, i'm still in lust with you.

[TemptationTammie]

Maybe add that . . .
She should be on time and not make you gents wait.
Answer requests in a timely fashion, even if the answer is no.

[SA Angel]

I would add....

Read the news local, national, and international. Men who want to pay you to just hang out with them for a day want stimulating conversation.

Redirection and only revealing certain details are always superior to lies. For example on paper I'm liberal but with a more conservative client I'll avoid the question of government welfare and focus more on raising taxes on foreign goods.

Your incall is a reflection of yourself. If she'll take more than one client a day spending extra on a nicer hotel is worth it.

[dodger]

Originally Posted by SA Angel

I would add....

Read the news local, national, and international. Men who want to pay you to just hang out with them for a day want stimulating conversation....

first ... i don't doubt you, angel ... but if we where together ... conversation will go more in the direction of, "miss angel ... please to put your bodacious tah taas into my mouth .... loving you" .... i've become a big fan of image #9 in your showcase ,,,,

,,,, but ,,, of course, i'm saving myself for ms dorthy ....

[JohnnyYanks]

A beautiful mind is a terrible thing to waste.

[dodger]

"the waist is a terrible thing to mind" --- terry forster

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Forster

[JennsLolli]

Originally Posted by JohnnyYanks

A beautiful mind is a terrible thing to waste.

I hope you're not implying that a beautiful mind = should know better than playing the pussy game.

I hope you're implying that an intelligent enough person should be able to figure out how play the game. You know, the same game y'all play in board rooms all day...both oak clad and ones that smell like french fries (even Burger King employees need a place to pretend to care about quality ingredients a few minutes before opening on Saturday morning). We just shake hands dick to mouth and not hand to hand. The same game y'all brag about, dicks in hand, in the reviews section and I'm sure your dudes only sections...we're playing that, too. A different position on the same team.

The OP's advice was fantastic advice. I would add to take the energy and time to develop an aesthetic that is true to her, but off from her daily identity. Use that aesthetic for pics, incall decor (candles, textiles, whatever), and language/verbage for board, website content, ads, emails. It's easier to take off your work uniform, so to speak, than it is to put your "true self" out there to suck all that dick. But like...be realistic. Don't say you're a young hotbody when you ain't. If you say you're a classy girl next door with a collage degree, no one will believe you because a collage is an object and college is a place, and we all know you'd stick out like a street hooker's sore thumb in Westlake. DON'T SELL WHAT YOU THINK GUYS WANT...sell what you have to offer. Boners have variable tastes, ladies.

Incorporate social media platforms that allow for clients to get small tastes of what they love. It helps to cut down on the "time wasting" emails which are energy drainers. Energy draining leads to feel good trips to the mall, which leads to more blowjobs, which leads to more "feel good" consumption. These forums also allow a gal to solidify her brand. Something easy for non-millenial businessmen to scroll through at the airport when they are tired, horny, and considering booking. Flash of stockings here, erotic art there, funny quote about slaying dick.

Oh, and it's "voila" not wa la. You know, for ads.

At the end of the day 90% of clients just want to blow their loads. Sure, it's cool when they really really prefer you to do it in your super precious sexy unique way...but if it ain't you, it'll be the next one. Ya know? So even though you take care of the important, finishing touches that help any provider succeed and no one seems to ever notice...remember that the ones who are worth your time will pick up on it. And appreciate that you aren't turning tricks in an empty apartment with an air mattress, digital clock, vodka, and crusty towels. Quality clients keep you from burning out. Self-managed self-care is what leads to the financial independence women come into the hobby seeking. Burn out leads to the flaming hate trains that too many of the women ride out on)(...and back in on...then back out on...)

Cater to the client you want, not the client you have. Many men here will use hookers for sex, as many women here use the men for money. People who genuinely grasp a reality beyond that are the ones who do well. The ones who have the great sex and the meaningful friendships. The people who get can figure out that last bit are the ones who eat the ripest sex fruit, because guess what...women have waaaaaaay more to offer sexually, erotically, and sensually than just a wet hole. The good men are the ones that know how to make it through the appropriate levels to arrive to the fun stuff. How to be a good lover to a woman 101 shit, guys.*

*I know that hookers exist so men can get laid without being good lovers or Casanovas.

[Guest010218]

Spot on advice ^^^ for providers.

[Guest021217]

Originally Posted by Old-T

It should not matter--I have been told by several mods on several different occasions that the author of a PM essentially owns its contents and can talk about it. It is against the rules to reveal what someone else wrote to you in a PM. In this case, since it was his PM and he did not revel who he wrote it to, there is no reason (logically) for it to run afoul of any rules. Of course I do understand mods may have different interpretations.

According to eccie guidelines

#9 - No form of private communications between members are to be posted in our forums. This includes the contents of emails,*PMs, IMs, private chat logs, privately shared images, etc. This is an invasion of another's privacy and will not be allowed.

[Austin Ellen]

I couldn't have said it better myself!

Cater to the client you want, not the client you have. Many men here will use hookers for sex, as many women here use the men for money. People who genuinely grasp a reality beyond that are the ones who do well. The ones who have the great sex and the meaningful friendships. The people who get can figure out that last bit are the ones who eat the ripest sex fruit, because guess what...women have waaaaaaay more to offer sexually, erotically, and sensually than just a wet hole. The good men are the ones that know how to make it through the appropriate levels to arrive to the fun stuff. How to be a good lover to a woman 101 shit, guys.*

[Cooper Barrett]

Here come Dorfy trying to play Rent A Mod....

Originally Posted by Dorthy_Monroe

According to eccie guidelines

#9 - No form of private communications between members are to be posted in our forums. This includes the contents of emails,*PMs, IMs, private chat logs, privately shared images, etc. This is an invasion of another's privacy and will not be allowed.