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Old 03-08-2011, 07:41 PM   #1
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Wink Not For the Faint of Heart

The gentlemen on this board have no problems starting threads letting us ladies know how they feel about the way we dress, the way we answer the phone, the way we reply to messages, our weight, if we smoke , the menu, rates, etc. They have had free reign and I'm not complaining. But, BUT, can you take it as well as you give it? we will see.



Ladies, we are in the business of pleasure, that can mean different things to different people. I try my best to be as attentive & open-minded as possible. I pride myself in being able give a client an out of this world experience and am disappointed when it doesn't turn out that way. But hobbyists, do you think that there is anything other than the monetary compensation, you could or could not do to make it a mutually satisfying experience?

I feel it is time to take a look at the hobby from a provider's point of view...

Let's start with initial contact. I have heard lots of guys complain about the amount of time it takes for a provider to respond to pm's or emails. And I agree to a point. It's rude to not respond within a couple of days to a pm or email. I feel that if you want a more immediate response, you should call. That's direct communication. I think pm's and emails should be primarily for screening or checking in with an atf you haven't heard from for awhile.How are we supposed to get a feel for you with out speaking directly to you?
And between websites, posts, showcases and reviews, excuse me if I don't make it a priority to tell you what you could've read in the time it took you to compose the email. I'm sure I'm not the only MILF provider, which means my day entails more than making whoopie and preparing to make whoopie.

How many of you guys take into consideration our lives outside of providing?

Then there is the actual session. You guys are sticklers for punctual ladies, as you well should be. We certainly appreciate it when you guys are on time. But being early, is a completely different story. I can only speak for myself when I say, I use every minute to get ready. I consider being early without warning, to be rude. There is always something left undone, last minute perfume spritz, last minute make up fixes, whatever.


Now, Gentlemen, I am expecting some backlash for this, but I have to say it. I think it is funny how in one respect, like answering emails, our appearance, etc., you all are so quick to remind us we are on the job, we need to be professional. And other times...not so much.
I had a gentleman who would come see me who was a stickler about starting sessions on time. Now, I am not into rushing. You book an hour, unless you decide otherwise, you get an hour. I try my best to never make a client feel like this is a business deal. I hate clock watching and rushing. But in reality it is a business arrangement and whatever time we agreed upon should be respected. Which is why I take such offense to the passive aggressive hobbyist. The guys who are purposefully difficult in the session, but come across as docile and unaware as far as their behavior is concerned,like go over the hour knowing the last thing I want to have to say is 'Time's Up' making them think I didn't enjoy our time together. If you are so adamant about starting on time, be equally so about finishing on time.

And just some food for thought: If you know you have a smaller package, maybe you could shave that bush down before requesting bbj for 30 minutes. Pubic hair in my mouth is gross. Just like you don't want mine in your mouth, the reverse is true. And if you happen to be a plus size guy with a petite member, let's stay away from those positions that only serve to make the situation uncomfortable. You know, doggy, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, etc. It's not in going in, and I resent being put in a situation where I have to tell you that.
And the whole making me come...either be a tad more receptive on how to make that happen, or let's just focus on you.
And speaking of focusing on you, how ridiculous is it for you to want us to engage in certain acts, then when we refuse for health and safety reasons, you get upset. Please don't be angry because I don't want to risk infection or death.

Also let's cut back on the price haggling, the bearded daty, the accidental CIM, the surprise price cuts, the ridiculous requests, the condoms on the floor by the bed, and the wet rags on the floor.
And quit using my 'good towels' to wipe your balls! I put a towel on the counter especially for you!

Spending intimate time with someone that you may or may not be intimately compatible with, in addition to the fact that you don't want to make the person to feel like it's just for money or like you are not enjoying it, is difficult. Mind you, this is not always the case, but when it is, I think both parties involved should do everything they can to make the time as enjoyable as possible for both.

Respect the fact that we are running a business and our time is valuable. Not to mention the fact that we are sharing the most intimate parts of ourselves with you. I know I put forth a great deal of effort into not making you feel like a trick, I think it's it's only fair for you to put effort into to not making us feel like (a) whores or (b) like we were just molested.



Any Provider that's worth a damn, sincerely enjoys sharing herself with you, she enjoys giving pleasure to a gentlemen who can appreciate it and hates being too blatant with the business end of it. She loves the fantasy she creates just as much as you do. Come on guys...meet us half way.


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If the shoes doesn't fit, don't get your briefs in a bunch.
If you feel like I'm talking about you, I probably am.



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Old 03-08-2011, 08:03 PM   #2
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In my real job as a sales rep, I understand that sometimes I have to eat shit and like it. In those circumstances, I never ever attempt to tell the customer what they could do to make the situation better. Why? Because my customer could decide to buy from someone else and I need my customers more than they need me. As the result, I have many long-time customers and I don't struggle to make a living anymore. *shrug*
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Old 03-08-2011, 08:24 PM   #3
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I feel like the nature of this particular business is of a more personal nature and I believe that our feelings should be taken into consideration just as much as yours. That mutual respect is what separates the street walking hoes from the escorts/providers, don't you think? Or do you even feel as if there is a difference between the two? I'm sure your business associates are more concerned with your quality of work and its end results than the amount of feces you can ingest before you push your plate back and burp.
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Old 03-08-2011, 08:48 PM   #4
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Well, you certainly left no doubt what you want from us...thanks.
And the ladies here are definitely a step up from the Harry Hines variety.
You should post your post in your profile...
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Old 03-08-2011, 09:04 PM   #5
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As what happens every other time this same thread is posted Kenni,

The guys who need to wash their ass don't care or read here...

The ladies who need to wash their cooch don't care or read here...

But hey thanks.
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Old 03-08-2011, 09:54 PM   #6
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In retrospect, maybe I said too much. This post was in direct response to the 'Lady watch your appearance' thread. I understand that this is our job and we are the product. I understand that guys have a right to their personal likes and dislikes. None of that is the issue. There are hundreds if not thousands of ladies to choose from in Dallas. If a provider has gained weight and you no longer find her attractive...on to the next. Why the need to publicly degrade and humiliate any one?

The ladies on this board are not sex slaves. We don't have to provide this particular brand of customer service. I personally enjoy spending time with most of the people I meet. Making sure the type of music an individual likes is playing when they come over, wearing their favorite outfit or perfume, being able to laugh and have our little inside jokes, those things are not mandatory in this line of work and neither is shit eating. I know plenty of girls that don't do any of that and they still make money.

I don't feel like a guy should be treated less than or in a disrespectful manner just because they don't mind paying for companionship, and I certainly don't feel like I should be looked down on or disrespected just because I don't mind providing it. I just feel like if I put forth that much effort into your enjoyment and comfort before the session even begins, certain things I shouldn't have to worry about. It's about respect. I don't do this to be degraded and treated like some bar wench. Not for a couple of hundred bucks. They have submissive's for that.

As I said, if you are offended and feel the need to defend your right to be an asshole, or want to justify it with an 'Everybody takes shit from someone to get what they want', I understand. If this post causes my phone to ring less, then so be it...
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Old 03-08-2011, 11:09 PM   #7
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I think Boltfan hit it spot on, those who need it, may not read it. I'd like to think I am a nice guy, but on some things I really am that clue-less. Towels, hmm I see clean and dry, I will probally grab the first one I see or my idea of thinking of you I may skip the one you set out for me, just because ... it looks like it is your favorite. Size, I did ask an ex RL GF and she was smart enough not to answer that, and most providers will try to say the guy is about average or in someway bigger than he really is. Unlike tits, the size of a dick changes a lot from soft and flacid to ready for action, heck even soft can be almost the same size as fully erect or very small. I'd like to think I'm about average but also know I am not huge, but really don't know how I compare. I have had some suggest K9 and some suggest greek so am I to guess I am big or small or that this or that lady is streached out or tight?
From my POV, vent away, but perhaps you could put it in your title, and not sure how to word it (I tend to suffer from foot in mouth diesease) but perhaps on your showcase, web page, or P411 say what you like then if we are not even close just say that you are busy the next time we call to book.
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Old 03-08-2011, 11:51 PM   #8
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All I'm saying is that I would never post my grievances about my customers on a public forum where my customers might be. Especially if I needed new customers. In the business, we call that behaving as a professional.
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Old 03-09-2011, 12:27 AM   #9
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In retrospect, maybe I said too much.
Well .. who am I to argue?

(glancing around to see if there are any "submissives" handy)
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Old 03-09-2011, 01:41 AM   #10
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Any Provider that's worth a damn, sincerely enjoys sharing herself with you, she enjoys giving pleasure to a gentlemen who can appreciate it and hates being too blatant with the business end of it. She loves the fantasy she creates just as much as you do.....
I find it interesting that you wrote this paragraph in third person...

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PS,
If the shoes doesn't fit, don't get your briefs in a bunch.
If you feel like I'm talking about you, I probably am.
I most certainly do not fit your profile, madam, but maybe you should send this acrimonious missive directly to the instigators of these foul deeds of which you speak; instead of attempting to castigate my dear, gentle, brethren who are ignorant, NAY, innocent of these slanderous accusations!

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Old 03-09-2011, 05:42 AM   #11
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Darn,
And here I thought my softly conditioned beard made DATY better. I didn't notice the new handle, but have always enjoyed your posts, well written and relevant.
Regards,
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Beards---

Not all of us have issues with facial hair. I rather like a little tickle
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Old 03-09-2011, 07:20 AM   #13
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I like how you keep implying I need new customers....



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All I'm saying is that I would never post my grievances about my customers on a public forum where my customers might be. Especially if I needed new customers. In the business, we call that behaving as a professional.
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is accomplished you should have cleared some time on the calendar and have some room for me time
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Old 03-09-2011, 08:03 AM   #15
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Kenni.........an interesting and thoughtful perspective. I've been around a while, and as you know, in this hobby and on this board there are all types, from respectful and courteous to rude and indifferent.......and on both sides. Unfortunately, as was mentioned, the ones who your comments most apply to won't ever read it, or try to understand it, or could care less.....on both sides......and are mostly those (clients) who figure that because they are paying that gives them license to expose their inner asshole self at any level, or on the other side (providers) who are in it for the $$ only and could care less about whether it's a good experience (in all ways) for the client or not. Both sides have their share of ingrates and scammers, and unfortunately while not in the majority, we sometimes don't know it until it's too late.

That's why we have provider reviews, and ladies have their "lists". And the smart ones pay attention to such things.
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