parkland school shooting lawsuit

[dilbert firestorm]

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/b...17-story.html#


A federal judge says Broward schools and the Sheriff’s Office had no legal duty to protect students during the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.

[Jackie S]

We expect our police officers to "run to the sound of the guns", so to speak. Their attitude might now be...."that's a good way to get killed".

[friendly fred]

It could be argued the officer fulfilled his constitutional duty to show up to the scene. I don't think a lawsuit is the proper way to address this problem, I would have liked to see heroism but you can't reasonably expect it in every case.

Next thing you know victims of "human trafficking" will sue cops for not stopping them from being tricked into prostitution in some foreign country and forced to work in the sex industry in the United States.

If that is the case, why not sue Obama, who failed in his duty to protect such victims?

[grean]

I read part of the ruling about how since the kids weren't in custody, as prisoners, the police or school didn't have a duty, right?

Aren't kids required by law to attend school? If they don't attend are they not truant? If the truant officer finds them at the arcade at the mall, can't he arrest them?

I know schools in Texas will not let you leave with a child unless you're a legal guardian or on a list provided by the legal guardians. I would presume it's similar in other states. If the kids aren't in the school's custody, what responsibility does it gave assuring that only people on "the list" pick up kids?


Seems a bit double sided. I think most parents taking their kids to school were under the impression that school officials are responsible for their children's safety.

Wonder if it can be appealed or refiled?

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by grean

Seems a bit double sided. I think most parents taking their kids to school were under the impression that school officials are responsible for their children's safety.

Wonder if it can be appealed or refiled?

the first part on the broward schools of the judges decision gave me pause... I was like what????


the police, I can understand that part of the ruling.

[bamscram]

Typical response of "it's not my fault"

[grean]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

the first part on the broward schools of the judges decision gave me pause... I was like what????


the police, I can understand that part of the ruling.

Right?

If the judge said that the police didn't but the school did. I would understand that. The kids aren't in police custody but they are in the schools.

Now if the school did have a duty, and since the school probably hired the resource officer or the police assigned him to that school. Did the individual officer not have a duty, or rather should have had a duty?

[oeb11]

I think the completely opposite judicial decision from the OP's article indicate clearly the judiciary has taken a DPST page and chooses to legislate personal opinion from the bench.

It is not about the law- it is how a judge feels about something on any given day.

[rexdutchman]

Very liberal area ( Broward /Dade/Palm beach ) so doesn't shock me IT should but it doesn't The not my fault is going nut in this country just look to the gov stoppage ( if anyone noticed )

[grean]

Here's an article about police public duty

https://www.policeone.com/police-job...duty-doctrine/

I really don't like it, but....I kind of get it. Regardless, I don't expect police to essentially commit suicide trying to protect because they would die too and not save the person they were protecting.

However, the job comes with danger. If death or severe harm isn't fucking imminent, they should at least try.

On the other hand, if a parent drops their offspring off at school, they should damn well expect the school administration to give them back at the end of the day just the way you left them or be dead too.

[bamscram]

If teachers or administrators can lose their lives protecting students from shooters, why not the police?

[oeb11]

Police are killed/wounded in the performance of duty


On July 7, 2016, Micah Xavier Johnson ambushed and fired upon a group of police officers in Dallas, Texas, killing five officers and injuring nine others. Two civilians were also wounded. Johnson was an Army Reserve Afghan War veteran who was reportedly angry over police shootings of black men and stated that he wanted to kill white people, especially white police officers. The shooting happened at the end of a protest against the police killings of Alton Sterling in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and Philando Castile in Falcon Heights, Minnesota, which had occurred in the preceding days.
Following the shooting, Johnson fled inside a building on the campus of El Centro College. Police followed him there, and a standoff ensued. In the early hours of July 8, police killed Johnson with a bomb attached to a remote control bomb disposal robot. It was the first time U.S. law enforcement used a robot to kill a suspect.
The shooting was the deadliest incident for U.S. law enforcement since the September 11 attacks, surpassing two related March 2009 shootings in Oakland, California, and a November 2009 ambush shooting in Lakewood, Washington, and a 2009 shooting of Pittsburgh police officers.



They are a thin blue line between me and folks I cannot handle.

Something DPST's fail to comprehend or remember, or even care about - until their own little lives are inconvenienced. Then they scream bloody murder about lack of police protection of their own sacred tiny butts.

Thank you for your illuminating post BS.

[themystic]

Originally Posted by oeb11

Police are killed/wounded in the performance of duty


On July 7, 2016, Micah Xavier Johnson ambushed and fired upon a group of police officers in Dallas, Texas, killing five officers and injuring nine others. Two civilians were also wounded. Johnson was an Army Reserve Afghan War veteran who was reportedly angry over police shootings of black men and stated that he wanted to kill white people, especially white police officers. The shooting happened at the end of a protest against the police killings of Alton Sterling in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and Philando Castile in Falcon Heights, Minnesota, which had occurred in the preceding days.
Following the shooting, Johnson fled inside a building on the campus of El Centro College. Police followed him there, and a standoff ensued. In the early hours of July 8, police killed Johnson with a bomb attached to a remote control bomb disposal robot. It was the first time U.S. law enforcement used a robot to kill a suspect.
The shooting was the deadliest incident for U.S. law enforcement since the September 11 attacks, surpassing two related March 2009 shootings in Oakland, California, and a November 2009 ambush shooting in Lakewood, Washington, and a 2009 shooting of Pittsburgh police officers.



They are a thin blue line between me and folks I cannot handle.

Something DPST's fail to comprehend or remember, or even care about - until their own little lives are inconvenienced. Then they scream bloody murder about lack of police protection of their own sacred tiny butts.

Thank you for your illuminating post BS.

Police kill lots of innocent people. Sometimes in cold blood. having a gun and a badge is a big responsibility with big perks. They should be held to a much higher standard

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by themystic

Police kill lots of innocent people. Sometimes in cold blood. having a gun and a badge is a big responsibility with big perks. They should be held to a much higher standard

They are held to a high standard.

I believe they have no duty, however, to attempt any action to suppress the rights of free individuals to compensate another for the performance of sexual services freely agreed to by both parties.

[bamscram]

Originally Posted by oeb11

Police are killed/wounded in the performance of duty


On July 7, 2016, Micah Xavier Johnson ambushed and fired upon a group of police officers in Dallas, Texas, killing five officers and injuring nine others. Two civilians were also wounded. Johnson was an Army Reserve Afghan War veteran who was reportedly angry over police shootings of black men and stated that he wanted to kill white people, especially white police officers. The shooting happened at the end of a protest against the police killings of Alton Sterling in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and Philando Castile in Falcon Heights, Minnesota, which had occurred in the preceding days.
Following the shooting, Johnson fled inside a building on the campus of El Centro College. Police followed him there, and a standoff ensued. In the early hours of July 8, police killed Johnson with a bomb attached to a remote control bomb disposal robot. It was the first time U.S. law enforcement used a robot to kill a suspect.
The shooting was the deadliest incident for U.S. law enforcement since the September 11 attacks, surpassing two related March 2009 shootings in Oakland, California, and I see you think the police should run like you do. in Lakewood, Washington, and a 2009 shooting of Pittsburgh police officers.



They are a thin blue line between me and folks I cannot handle.

Something DPST's fail to comprehend or remember, or even care about - until their own little lives are inconvenienced. Then they scream bloody murder about lack of police protection of their own sacred tiny butts.

Thank you for your illuminating post BS.

I see you think the police should run like you do. Typical RRSAH