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		|  06-02-2020, 11:50 PM | #1 |  
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			Looked over the several vids of the Floyd incident.  When Floyd is first arrested across the street, he seems very calm.  When Chauvin's patrolcar pulls up and they want him in his car, he panics.  Eventually they get him to the ground and Chauvin kneels on his neck until he's dead.  Not just dead but, IMO, Chauvin knew he wasn't revivable or revivable with brain damage.
 Why? I know Chauvin is a racist bastard but why kill a guy you knew from a place you worked together for many years?  I don't buy the story that Chauvin worked outside and Floyd work inside so they didn't "know" each other.
 
 And what about the people who were in the Mercedes SUV with Floyd? I haven't heard from them.
 
 This doesn't make sense.  I've disliked a couple of coworkers in my career but not enough to savagely kill them. Some of them even owed me a chunk of money.  And in front of witnesses?  Beyond strange.  "Racism" doesn't cover it.
 
 There's a scenario going around that the nightclub these guys worked at was a money laundering operation and passed a large number of counterfeit bills.  Floyd was accused of passing a fake bill.  I've gotten a fake bill before and unknowingly accidentally tried to use it.  No problem from the police.
 
 What if Chauvin was an enforcer?  He knew Floyd was problematic and knew Floyd was a risk.  And some in that police crew knew it was risking a lot of payoffs to have this liability walk.  So don't let him walk?
 
 This may sound a far fetched but it makes more sense than a racist cop killed some random guy for jollies.  I admit this still could be the case but again, why do it front of witnesses in broad daylight?  Especially when you're one year away from a 20 year pension?
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		|  06-03-2020, 04:04 AM | #2 |  
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					Originally Posted by gnadfly  Looked over the several vids of the Floyd incident.  When Floyd is first arrested across the street, he seems very calm.  When Chauvin's patrolcar pulls up and they want him in his car, he panics.  Eventually they get him to the ground and Chauvin kneels on his neck until he's dead.  Not just dead but, IMO, Chauvin knew he wasn't revivable or revivable with brain damage.
 Why? I know Chauvin is a racist bastard but why kill a guy you knew from a place you worked together for many years?  I don't buy the story that Chauvin worked outside and Floyd work inside so they didn't "know" each other.
 
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According to the club owner in one article I saw, they worked on different nights, that's why they didn't know each other. Chauvin was aggressive, got reprimanded for pulling a woman out of a car for a traffic violation. Plus he has shot a couple of people on the job.
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		|  06-03-2020, 04:10 AM | #3 |  
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					Originally Posted by adav8s28  According to the club owner in one article I saw, they worked on different nights, that's why they didn't know each other. |  
So the "club owner" is claiming they didn't know each other because they ALWAYS WORKED DIFFERENT SHIFTS? I hope the "club owner's" meticulous payroll records reflect THAT FACT! 
 
Strange: In these threads and in the media .... NOTHING is discussed about the tall, lean, Black officer who handcuffed Flowd, escorted him to the sidewalk, and assisted him to sit down and lean back against the wall while the passenger from the vehicle with gang-clown outfit was "interviewed" by the cops in the background. Then the same Black officer assisted Floyd in getting up and walked him around to the street side of the vehicle out of view. Why did that officer turn Floyd over to another officer?
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		|  06-03-2020, 08:34 AM | #4 |  
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					Originally Posted by adav8s28  According to the club owner in one article I saw, they worked on different nights, that's why they didn't know each other. Chauvin was aggressive, got reprimanded for pulling a woman out of a car for a traffic violation. Plus he has shot a couple of people on the job. |  
A nightclub has shifts?  It's a NIGHTCLUB!  The article I read said Floyd worked inside the club while Chauvin worked outside.  FOR YEARS.  They had to of known each other.
 
So Chauvin was aggressive.  He had a couple of reprimands in his nearly 20 year career.  So what?  I'm not excusing what the guy did at all.  I'm not tied into the police but I'm sure in today's environment no 20 year vet has a spotless record.
 
Not answering why a guy would brutally kill a coworker.  Obviously the guy is an asshole.  He may even be an overt racist.  Floyd may have fucked a waitress he was screwing on the side.  There's a number possibilities.
 
The media isn't talking about it.  People are just using an excuse to riot.  I think there's much more to the story.
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		|  06-03-2020, 08:41 AM | #5 |  
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					Originally Posted by LexusLover  So the "club owner" is claiming they didn't know each other because they ALWAYS WORKED DIFFERENT SHIFTS? I hope the "club owner's" meticulous payroll records reflect THAT FACT! 
 Strange: In these threads and in the media .... NOTHING is discussed about the tall, lean, Black officer who handcuffed Flowd, escorted him to the sidewalk, and assisted him to sit down and lean back against the wall while the passenger from the vehicle with gang-clown outfit was "interviewed" by the cops in the background. Then the same Black officer assisted Floyd in getting up and walked him around to the street side of the vehicle out of view. Why did that officer turn Floyd over to another officer?
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Yeah, there's a lot of questions that aren't being asked.  How does a "security officer" who works at a nightclub afford a Mercedez SUV and a couple a drug habits?  "Being involved in a money laundering operation" answers a lot of questions.
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		|  06-03-2020, 08:57 AM | #6 |  
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					Originally Posted by gnadfly  I think there's much more to the story. |  
Isn't there usually? The list is almost endless ...back to Rodney King!
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		|  06-03-2020, 09:03 AM | #7 |  
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					Originally Posted by gnadfly  Looked over the several vids of the Floyd incident.  When Floyd is first arrested across the street, he seems very calm.  When Chauvin's patrolcar pulls up and they want him in his car, he panics.  Eventually they get him to the ground and Chauvin kneels on his neck until he's dead.  Not just dead but, IMO, Chauvin knew he wasn't revivable or revivable with brain damage.
 Why? I know Chauvin is a racist bastard but why kill a guy you knew from a place you worked together for many years?  I don't buy the story that Chauvin worked outside and Floyd work inside so they didn't "know" each other.
 
 And what about the people who were in the Mercedes SUV with Floyd? I haven't heard from them.
 
 This doesn't make sense.  I've disliked a couple of coworkers in my career but not enough to savagely kill them. Some of them even owed me a chunk of money.  And in front of witnesses?  Beyond strange.  "Racism" doesn't cover it.
 
 There's a scenario going around that the nightclub these guys worked at was a money laundering operation and passed a large number of counterfeit bills.  Floyd was accused of passing a fake bill.  I've gotten a fake bill before and unknowingly accidentally tried to use it.  No problem from the police.
 
 What if Chauvin was an enforcer?  He knew Floyd was problematic and knew Floyd was a risk.  And some in that police crew knew it was risking a lot of payoffs to have this liability walk.  So don't let him walk?
 
 This may sound a far fetched but it makes more sense than a racist cop killed some random guy for jollies.  I admit this still could be the case but again, why do it front of witnesses in broad daylight?  Especially when you're one year away from a 20 year pension?
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If you think about it, all Bills are fake. It's just against the Law for citizens to cut into the Governments Operation of printing money, lol.
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		|  06-03-2020, 09:18 AM | #8 |  
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					Originally Posted by gnadfly  Yeah, there's a lot of questions that aren't being asked.  How does a "security officer" who works at a nightclub afford a Mercedez SUV and a couple a drug habits?  "Being involved in a money laundering operation" answers a lot of questions. |  
It gets weird fast. Worth reading the article to see how weird it could go. Either way, the Officer will need to be sacrificed for doing his "other" job to keep the peace.
 
 
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					Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do  Well... looking like the court  case will  have some interesting wrinkles to iron out. Not sure how much   discovery will actually be allowed. Seems there are some underlying   shenanigans to tippy-toe around and maybe some folks that might have   some high-end protection. Dunno for sure, but appears to be some stank   in the wind. 
BOLO for El Nuevo Rodeo (ENR). That's the ownership entity of the club the cop and the bouncer worked at.
Sunday Talks: Crump on Floyd – “We Don’t Understand”…
...“Officer”  (in quotes deliberately) Derek Chauvin did kill George  Floyd; that’s  not the issue. The issue driving the media narrative  surrounds why  “Officer” Derek killed George. Toward the end of the  interview Brennan  asked Crump about Derek and George knowing  each-other.  Ben’s response, specifically how he phrases the admission,  is what’s worth watching.... |  |  
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		|  06-03-2020, 10:26 AM | #9 |  
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					Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do  Either way, the Officer will need to be sacrificed for doing his "other" job to keep the peace. |  
If half the speculation is correct, he won't see the inside of a courtroom for any length of time and his "life sentence" will not be long.
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		|  06-03-2020, 11:57 AM | #10 |  
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					Originally Posted by gnadfly  Yeah, there's a lot of questions that aren't being asked.. |  
Haven't you heard? According to Andy, asking questions is "despicable". There is nothing more we need to know according to Andy but that a White cop killed a Black man. Nothing more to discuss according to Andy.
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		|  06-03-2020, 12:18 PM | #11 |  
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			Good point - am has no use for the Constitution, Rul of Law, or any of those extraneous, out-dated anachronisms - what matters is am's opinion - nothing more. 
 
 
 Go donate all your assets to looters at 3am -  "am" - stop being a hypocrite.
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		|  06-03-2020, 01:04 PM | #12 |  
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					Originally Posted by LexusLover  If half the speculation is correct, he won't see the inside of a courtroom for any length of time and his "life sentence" will not be long. |  
I suspect he will be so remorseful that he will hang him self in a suicide watch cell. Most likely, the ligature marks will also be below his Adam's apple and all of the surveillance video will be defective. Just a guess...
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		|  06-03-2020, 02:34 PM | #13 |  
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			WYID - are u referring to the Officer now charged with 2nd degree murder of Floyd???
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		|  06-03-2020, 02:40 PM | #14 |  
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					Originally Posted by gnadfly  Looked over the several vids of the Floyd incident.  When Floyd is first arrested across the street, he seems very calm.  When Chauvin's patrolcar pulls up and they want him in his car, he panics.  Eventually they get him to the ground and Chauvin kneels on his neck until he's dead.  Not just dead but, IMO, Chauvin knew he wasn't revivable or revivable with brain damage.
 Why? I know Chauvin is a racist bastard but why kill a guy you knew from a place you worked together for many years?  I don't buy the story that Chauvin worked outside and Floyd work inside so they didn't "know" each other.
 
 And what about the people who were in the Mercedes SUV with Floyd? I haven't heard from them.
 
 This doesn't make sense.  I've disliked a couple of coworkers in my career but not enough to savagely kill them. Some of them even owed me a chunk of money.  And in front of witnesses?  Beyond strange.  "Racism" doesn't cover it.
 
 There's a scenario going around that the nightclub these guys worked at was a money laundering operation and passed a large number of counterfeit bills.  Floyd was accused of passing a fake bill.  I've gotten a fake bill before and unknowingly accidentally tried to use it.  No problem from the police.
 
 What if Chauvin was an enforcer?  He knew Floyd was problematic and knew Floyd was a risk.  And some in that police crew knew it was risking a lot of payoffs to have this liability walk.  So don't let him walk?
 
 This may sound a far fetched but it makes more sense than a racist cop killed some random guy for jollies.  I admit this still could be the case but again, why do it front of witnesses in broad daylight?  Especially when you're one year away from a 20 year pension?
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Now THAT'S a conspiracy theory!!
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		|  06-03-2020, 02:42 PM | #15 |  
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					Originally Posted by oeb11  WYID - are u referring to the Officer now charged with 2nd degree murder of Floyd??? |  
It does appear as though he is .... 
 
... but he (the officer) should be so fortunate as having the pleasure of selecting his own demise!
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