what do you consider PSE ?

[jhende3]

I was reading a backpage ad today and saw that the provider said that she provides PSE. Now I know what I think about when I hear PSE but when I read on and went to her site it was anything but that being offered.

http://exotic-babe.com/services.php

Some people need to start to chose words a little more wisely so as not to cause any confusion. I have the same thing happen with a girl who says she provides GFE and it was anything but that. My motto is "Do You" meaning do what makes you happy. Don't worry about what others think or say. Too many people try to be politically correct it kills me! I would rather a provider say she does this, this and this and thats it than lie about it or try and upsell all the stuff you were hoping for. People we are on the way to wearing a head to toe latex suit with only a hole in it to breathe. Sex is just that SEX if it was without risk there wouldn't be any reward. Call me old fashion but I like kissing hugging sweating while doing it. Thats the stuff that make it what it is. And guess what everyone you do exchange bodily fluids. If you have a problem with that fine don't do it. If you live in fear of catching something, great get out of the business. But in the end "Do You" Now I ready to take my punishment for upsetting you all.

[Kaylee]

Again, you are going to get a million definitions based on what each individual is comfortable with.

Me? GFE= more slow mo, kissing, cuddling, massages, bbbj, DT, daty, fs, cim(just me), and a rest between rounds.

PSE= all the above plus greek, bondage, asian, DP, and no water break.

I don't consider an hour to be gfe, unless all you are looking for are acronyms. Constantly worrying about how many pops you get, is not something a boyfriend would do, nor is watching a clock.

Some people only look at the activities to base their theory, while others look at the entire experience. A half hour at the Motel 6 is not what I call GFE, but have seen many reviews that were happy just to have the acronyms on an air mattress.

The site you posted clearly threw me off, because all covered and no anal would not be what I consider PSE, but maybe she allows a video camera.

["SLICKBACK"]

PSE = PORN STAR EXPERIENCE , now most people here should have had some exposure to Adult/Pornographic movies, but as Kaylee mentioned you will get varying levels of out put, because in actuality there are varying levels extreme pornography depending on the number of XXX. There is even soft core porn, you know the kind they show on showtime late nite, back of the head bobbing, no visual penetration, etc. A young provider just coming out could very well have a limited exposure to adult video, and there are actually adult companies that stress condom use, so actors will use condoms in the scenes, but most true XXX hardcore films have gotten away from condoms. At the on set of aids before more was understood about how it was transmitted, there was alot of focus on condom use in the adult film industry, but after there was more of a understanding that it is the actual contact with the blood by a open sore, or highly inflamed area where there is pretty much blood to blood contact then spread of aids is lower risk than most people think focus on condom use subsided. In my opinion a TRUE PSE EXPERIENCE would be within reasonable limits a hardcore anything goes buffet of sex. I have never been with her, but by the way she describes what she offers, reviews, and knowing her background as a biker chic, the only provider I can think of when you say PSE would be Dallas Rain. This lady sounds like besides snuff and really extreme sexual acts anything and everything goes, actually if you get with a true PSE provider you better come ready for action and pack a lunch because the average guy can not handle a true high energy PSE provider.

[Lea Madisson]

PSE? Easy...

Lots of moaning and screaming, rolling around, and always trying to make sure you are showing your best side to the camera... being able to fake an orgasm multiple times, and always telling the man how big he is, and being able to to use a variety of sexy or vulgar words in one sentence over and over again.

Smooch!

Lea

[Jacquie]

Does anal?

Also, XXX actually means nothing in terms of rating. It was something advertisers started doing to excite people about movies that don't necessarily even have a rating. Seeing that does NOT mean you're going to get something hardcore at all.

[haya1300]

PSE to me means the several ladies I have actually shot porn with. Some claim its an experience or different "services" offered, but you can really tell a difference when you know a lady is comfortable doing things either BCD or in front of others with the cameras rolling. There are several PSE's that I have been with both in front of the camera, and 1 on 1, BCD, and things are just as crazy. LOL

Now dont get me wrong, I have been with providers who are simply incredible, and if they decided to make the jump to actually shooting video's, they would do great....but again, it takes a certain type of person to be able to do that.

Cheers

[causewaycommuter]

To me, GFE is more than simply lfk, dfk, bbbj, cim or some other activities. To me GFE also incorporates an overall tone of the session. Yes it should include the activities I listed before, but it should also include some *gasp* romance. And in order for there to be a GFE session, the guy needs to provide a BFE as well.

As for PSE, that is totally up in the air in my mind. There are so many different kinds/styles of porn. Should it include greek? Maybe. Should it involve moaning, screaming, gagging deepthroating and bed-rocking fucking that finishes with a big messy facial? Maybe

The way that the terms GFE and PSE are thrown around now, it's simply a marketing tool for the ads. Some of the ladies actually understand what GFE & PSE means (at least to them), some of them don't have a clue, and some of them do know what it means but have no intention of providing those services even though they state it in their ads.

[gimme_that]

to quote Slickback"s comment....

"if you get with a true PSE provider you better come ready for action and pack a lunch because the average guy can not handle a true high energy PSE provider"

I definitely agree with this statement. I like all my sessions to start GFE/BFE as the next guy, but for a longer sessions I prefer a mostly PSE experience with crucial elements of GFE sprinlkled in such as kissing, cuddling, reciprocal massages, etc added from GFE as well.

PSE exclusively to me is more performanced based than anything. If I'm seeking a porn star experience Im expecting top notch service and tricks I have never heard of before as well as a renewed vigor and consistency of stamina that matches mine. I have been afforded this type of session only 3 times since hobbying expecting only a typical GFE session and those ladies quickly became my ATF.

Besides notieriety, the porn star providers on p411 and other sites dont really exhibit a true difference from a very good GFE session. I like a mesh of both.

[Kaylee]

Originally Posted by causewaycommuter

To me, GFE is more than simply lfk, dfk, bbbj, cim or some other activities. To me GFE also incorporates an overall tone of the session. Yes it should include the activities I listed before, but it should also include some *gasp* romance. And in order for there to be a GFE session, the guy needs to provide a BFE as well.

As for PSE, that is totally up in the air in my mind. There are so many different kinds/styles of porn. Should it include greek? Maybe. Should it involve moaning, screaming, gagging deepthroating and bed-rocking fucking that finishes with a big messy facial? Maybe

The way that the terms GFE and PSE are thrown around now, it's simply a marketing tool for the ads. Some of the ladies actually understand what GFE & PSE means (at least to them), some of them don't have a clue, and some of them do know what it means but have no intention of providing those services even though they state it in their ads.

Ooops forgot the facial. I consider that gfe too because it's something I do with a boyfriend or client on a regular basis. Rarely does a guy ever finish inside the condom. Feels better for him, and does not give me the pregnancy or std scare if it breaks.

[DallasRain]

GFE/PSE....hmmmmm I don't like labels!!!!

Quoted--I definitely agree with this statement. I like all my sessions to start GFE/BFE as the next guy, but for a longer sessions I prefer a mostly PSE experience with crucial elements of GFE sprinlkled in such as kissing, cuddling, reciprocal massages, etc added from GFE as well.

PSE exclusively to me is more performanced based than anything. If I'm seeking a porn star experience Im expecting top notch service and tricks I have never heard of before as well as a renewed vigor and consistency of stamina that matches mine. I have been afforded this type of session only 3 times since hobbying expecting only a typical GFE session and those ladies quickly became my ATF.----unquoted


To me a session should include all the above....my sessions are all doing about what feels good to both of us!!! I read the person I am with and try to follow that lead.....I can say that I love the "balls to the wall" kinda session best,but also like the gfe aspects thrown in throughout the session!

Pse to me is the kinda guy who rips your clothes off when he comes in the door,picks you up,throws you on the bed,and has his way with you!!{THAT's a REAL Dallas Experience...lol}

TO ME IT"S ALL ABOUT ATTITUDE!!!


"SLICKBACK"----babe,don't be skeert,come find out for yourself...I haven't killed anyone YET{and my oldest client was 80!! lol}!!!!

I promise to be gentle{at first...lol}

[gimme_that]

Originally Posted by Kaylee

Ooops forgot the facial. Rarely does a guy ever finish inside the condom. Feels better for him......

I think there was a voting thread in texas on aspd about pop options when cumming. An overwhelming majority of dudes would rather have sex while climaxing into a condom while having sex, instead of a skeet shoot. Close second was a BBBJCIMNQNS, but that goes without saying.

[Kaylee]

Originally Posted by gimme_that

I think there was a voting thread in texas on aspd about pop options when cumming. An overwhelming majority of dudes would rather have sex while climaxing into a condom while having sex, instead of a skeet shoot. Close second was a BBBJCIMNQNS, but that goes without saying.

I have encountered just the opposite. When I tell them they can go in my mouth all the way, they always jump at that notion. Rarely does anyone pop in the condom unless they have no control.

[stavinChain]

It's all marketing. GFE, PSE, and now the vague 'Honeymoon Experience'. All designed to lure in the naive hobbyist (or, as they say in the Old Country - 'Separate a fool from his $$')

Read the reviews and decide who'll deliver the goods.

Oh, don't have reviews? That's a problem.

[lisa.lisa0302]

PSE

It has been mention in this thread, hardcore marathon sessions, eat your Wheaties, it is spitting, pulling, biting, smacking the ass hard, lots and lots of dirty talk. Deep throat to the max, and COB,COF, CIM hell cum everywhere. Actually moving the bed, pissing off some neighbors because you are too loud. Its that hungry animal sex. Its things you would not do typically with a GF,or SO.

[MrGiz]

Originally Posted by lisa.lisa0302

PSE

It has been mention in this thread, hardcore marathon sessions, eat your Wheaties, it is spitting, pulling, biting, smacking the ass hard, lots and lots of dirty talk. Deep throat to the max, and COB,COF, CIM hell cum everywhere. Actually moving the bed, pissing off some neighbors because you are too loud. Its that hungry animal sex. Its things you would not do typically with a GF,or SO.

Yeah.... What Lisa said!!
I've always thought PSE had a whole lot more to do with attitude and performance , than a list of accronyms!!