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Old 08-06-2021, 07:53 AM   #1
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Default Another reason to get vaccines. Lots of them.

Vaccines can prevent Alzheimer's! This is good news. I've had three shots so far, two for COVID and one for tetanus. And before the year is out I'll have the flu shot and a COVID booster. So five vaccines just this year!!!

Thirty years from now I'll be crossing the border to Juarez and impressing the prepagos and masajistas with my debonair way, my money, and my enormous Viagra enhanced boner. Levianon meanwhile will have forgotten his name and will be stuck in his house, crapping in his pants.

This can be your Christmas Carol moment Levianon. It's like you're Ebenezer Scrooge and I'm the Ghost of Christmas Future. You need to jump out of that easy chair and go down to your friendly neighborhood CVS or Walgreens. Get an mRNA COVID vaccine. And don't forget your diptheria/tetanus booster shot!


Could the Covid Vaccine (and Others) Prevent Alzheimer’s?
There’s growing evidence that inoculation confers significant protective benefits.

By Allysia Finley

Covid vaccines enormously reduce the risk of death and hospitalization in those who have been infected by the novel coronavirus. But could they also help protect seniors against dementia and Alzheimer’s disease? There’s reason to hope so.

Growing evidence indicates that seniors who get vaccinated against illnesses such as tetanus and even the flu are much less likely to develop Alzheimer’s, the leading cause of dementia, characterized by a buildup of amyloid plaque and tau tangles in the brain. Scientists don’t completely understand why, but many hypothesize that vaccines generate a systemic immune response that can reduce inflammation in the brain, which results in neuron loss and cognitive decline.

Among the first pieces of evidence was a 2001 study that tracked roughly 3,600 Canadians over 65. After adjusting for age, sex and education, the researcher found that past vaccinations for diphtheria/tetanus, poliomyelitis and influenza were associated with a 59%, 40% and 25% lower risk for Alzheimer’s, respectively.

The study had shortcomings. The differences discovered between the vaccinated and unvaccinated groups could have been due to confounding variables. People who get vaccinated, for instance, may also be more likely to get regular checkups and suffer fewer underlying conditions like diabetes that increase the risk for Alzheimer’s.

But more-recent studies controlled for these factors and still found a strongly beneficial association between vaccines and Alzheimer’s. A research article published in the Journals of Gerontology in April examined the link between Alzheimer’s and the Tdap (tetanus, diphtheria and pertussis) vaccine. By using health records from the Veterans Health Administration and a large database of private medical claims for seniors over 65, researchers could adjust for variables such as demographics, health-services utilization, health conditions and medications. After these adjustments, they found that seniors who had received the Tdap vaccine had a 42% lower risk of developing dementia than those who hadn’t.

The BCG vaccine for tuberculosis is mostly distributed at birth in developing countries. But it is also a common (though not the only) therapy for early-stage bladder cancer. Comparing bladder-cancer patients treated with BCG with those who weren’t can eliminate confounding effects since patients aren’t self-selecting into either group.

In a study published this spring in the journal Vaccines, researchers in Israel and the U.S. examined health records for some 12,185 bladder-cancer patients treated in both countries from 2000-19. They found that patients over 75 who received BCG treatment had a 27% lower risk for Alzheimer’s some 3½ to seven years later.

“We attributed BCG’s beneficial effect on neurodegenerative diseases to a possible activation of long-term nonspecific immune effects,” the authors wrote. For instance, the BCG treatment increased the levels of anti-inflammatory cytokines, which could lead to an increase in beneficial T-cells that help regulate inflammation. The mRNA Covid vaccines have also been found to generate such cytokines.

Another study, from the Montefiore Medical Center and Albert Einstein College of Medicine in the Bronx, published this spring in the Clinical Genitourinary Cancer journal, found that bladder-cancer patients who received BCG treatment had a 60% lower risk of developing Alzheimer’s and other dementias than patients who did not.

What about vaccines that are more common? A study last year sponsored by the National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute examined data from more than 5,000 people 65 and over who participated in a cardiovascular-health study. The researchers found that getting a pneumonia vaccine between ages 65 and 75 (the vaccine is recommended for adults over 65) reduced the risk of Alzheimer’s by 25% to 30% after adjusting for potentially confounding variables.

The study didn’t find a beneficial effect from the flu vaccine alone, but the effects could hinge in part on timing and frequency. Another study last year, from the University of Texas’s McGovern Medical School, found that seniors who received flu vaccines more often and got their first before they turned 60 were significantly less likely to develop Alzheimer’s. The flu vaccine generates a weaker immune response than many other vaccines, so perhaps repeated vaccinations are needed to have a positive effect.

It hasn’t been proved that vaccines actually reduce the risk of Alzheimer’s, but multiple studies using different designs and populations support this theory. It’s also unknown whether Covid vaccines may impart a similar protective benefit, but they trigger a strong systemic immune response like some of the other studied vaccines.

What’s more, Cleveland Clinic researchers this summer discovered that Covid infections “significantly altered Alzheimer’s markers implicated in brain inflammation,” suggesting that the virus could trigger changes in the brain that result in dementia similar to Alzheimer’s.


There’s still a lot scientists don’t understand about both Alzheimer’s and Covid. But one silver lining of the pandemic has been the increased attention paid to vaccines, including for common ailments like the flu and pneumonia. Some 80% of seniors have been fully vaccinated against Covid, and a similar share last year got the flu vaccine.

Who knows? Perhaps years from now many fewer people than expected will have developed Alzheimer’s, and we may have the Covid vaccines to thank.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-1...ve-11628196831
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get in line Joe, ya need more shots it seems
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Vaccines can prevent Alzheimer's! This is good news. I've had three shots so far, two for COVID and one for tetanus. And before the year is out I'll have the flu shot and a COVID booster. So five vaccines just this year!!!

Thirty years from now I'll be crossing the border to Juarez and impressing the prepagos and masajistas with my debonair way, my money, and my enormous Viagra enhanced boner. Levianon meanwhile will have forgotten his name and will be stuck in his house, crapping in his pants.

This can be your Christmas Carol moment Levianon. It's like you're Ebenezer Scrooge and I'm the Ghost of Christmas Future. You need to jump out of that easy chair and go down to your friendly neighborhood CVS or Walgreens. Get an mRNA COVID vaccine. And don't forget your diptheria/tetanus booster shot!


Could the Covid Vaccine (and Others) Prevent Alzheimer’s?
There’s growing evidence that inoculation confers significant protective benefits.

By Allysia Finley

Covid vaccines enormously reduce the risk of death and hospitalization in those who have been infected by the novel coronavirus. But could they also help protect seniors against dementia and Alzheimer’s disease? There’s reason to hope so.

Growing evidence indicates that seniors who get vaccinated against illnesses such as tetanus and even the flu are much less likely to develop Alzheimer’s, the leading cause of dementia, characterized by a buildup of amyloid plaque and tau tangles in the brain. Scientists don’t completely understand why, but many hypothesize that vaccines generate a systemic immune response that can reduce inflammation in the brain, which results in neuron loss and cognitive decline.

Among the first pieces of evidence was a 2001 study that tracked roughly 3,600 Canadians over 65. After adjusting for age, sex and education, the researcher found that past vaccinations for diphtheria/tetanus, poliomyelitis and influenza were associated with a 59%, 40% and 25% lower risk for Alzheimer’s, respectively.

The study had shortcomings. The differences discovered between the vaccinated and unvaccinated groups could have been due to confounding variables. People who get vaccinated, for instance, may also be more likely to get regular checkups and suffer fewer underlying conditions like diabetes that increase the risk for Alzheimer’s.

But more-recent studies controlled for these factors and still found a strongly beneficial association between vaccines and Alzheimer’s. A research article published in the Journals of Gerontology in April examined the link between Alzheimer’s and the Tdap (tetanus, diphtheria and pertussis) vaccine. By using health records from the Veterans Health Administration and a large database of private medical claims for seniors over 65, researchers could adjust for variables such as demographics, health-services utilization, health conditions and medications. After these adjustments, they found that seniors who had received the Tdap vaccine had a 42% lower risk of developing dementia than those who hadn’t.

The BCG vaccine for tuberculosis is mostly distributed at birth in developing countries. But it is also a common (though not the only) therapy for early-stage bladder cancer. Comparing bladder-cancer patients treated with BCG with those who weren’t can eliminate confounding effects since patients aren’t self-selecting into either group.

In a study published this spring in the journal Vaccines, researchers in Israel and the U.S. examined health records for some 12,185 bladder-cancer patients treated in both countries from 2000-19. They found that patients over 75 who received BCG treatment had a 27% lower risk for Alzheimer’s some 3½ to seven years later.

“We attributed BCG’s beneficial effect on neurodegenerative diseases to a possible activation of long-term nonspecific immune effects,” the authors wrote. For instance, the BCG treatment increased the levels of anti-inflammatory cytokines, which could lead to an increase in beneficial T-cells that help regulate inflammation. The mRNA Covid vaccines have also been found to generate such cytokines.

Another study, from the Montefiore Medical Center and Albert Einstein College of Medicine in the Bronx, published this spring in the Clinical Genitourinary Cancer journal, found that bladder-cancer patients who received BCG treatment had a 60% lower risk of developing Alzheimer’s and other dementias than patients who did not.

What about vaccines that are more common? A study last year sponsored by the National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute examined data from more than 5,000 people 65 and over who participated in a cardiovascular-health study. The researchers found that getting a pneumonia vaccine between ages 65 and 75 (the vaccine is recommended for adults over 65) reduced the risk of Alzheimer’s by 25% to 30% after adjusting for potentially confounding variables.

The study didn’t find a beneficial effect from the flu vaccine alone, but the effects could hinge in part on timing and frequency. Another study last year, from the University of Texas’s McGovern Medical School, found that seniors who received flu vaccines more often and got their first before they turned 60 were significantly less likely to develop Alzheimer’s. The flu vaccine generates a weaker immune response than many other vaccines, so perhaps repeated vaccinations are needed to have a positive effect.

It hasn’t been proved that vaccines actually reduce the risk of Alzheimer’s, but multiple studies using different designs and populations support this theory. It’s also unknown whether Covid vaccines may impart a similar protective benefit, but they trigger a strong systemic immune response like some of the other studied vaccines.

What’s more, Cleveland Clinic researchers this summer discovered that Covid infections “significantly altered Alzheimer’s markers implicated in brain inflammation,” suggesting that the virus could trigger changes in the brain that result in dementia similar to Alzheimer’s.


There’s still a lot scientists don’t understand about both Alzheimer’s and Covid. But one silver lining of the pandemic has been the increased attention paid to vaccines, including for common ailments like the flu and pneumonia. Some 80% of seniors have been fully vaccinated against Covid, and a similar share last year got the flu vaccine.

Who knows? Perhaps years from now many fewer people than expected will have developed Alzheimer’s, and we may have the Covid vaccines to thank.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-1...ve-11628196831
This is nothing but bullshit. Doctors don't really know that much about Alzheimer's and they don't know too much about Covid-19 either. One thing that is suspect in the development of Alzheimer's is the shortening and fraying of the Telomeres, the compound structures at the end of Chromosomes. Your beloved Vaccine is in no way capable of reversing or preventing the shortening of a chromosomal structure directly associated with the aging process.
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Propaganda ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Look up real doctors ideas of covid / and vaccine R Malone is a good start
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This is nothing but bullshit. Doctors don't really know that much about Alzheimer's and they don't know too much about Covid-19 either. One thing that is suspect in the development of Alzheimer's is the shortening and fraying of the Telomeres, the compound structures at the end of Chromosomes. Your beloved Vaccine is in no way capable of reversing or preventing the shortening of a chromosomal structure directly associated with the aging process.



You are entitled to your opinion,L-17/RD
emotional though it is.
Tiny - thank you for an interesting article - it will take research time to elucidate answers to teh questions raised.



the findings are interesting - and worthy of further study.

We do not Know enough - about alzheimers /Wuhan virus - I agree.

Only further study can answer those interesting questions raised in teh OP post.

Medicine - evolves - i remember when teh first reports that peptic Ulcer disease was caused by H. Pylori out of australia came out - to rousing condemnation of many medical groups.



The authors won teh Nobel prize = Very rare for clinicians - and revolutionized the treatment of Gastroesophageal reflux and peptic ulcer disease. .
ie - the 'purple pill".

I learned - not to pre-judge emotionally new reports that seem to go against traditional medicine teachings.



50% of what we teach medical students today - will be wrong in 10 years. An axiom of professors of my younger years.

With the rate of advancement of medical knowledge /literature - it may be more like 5-6 years- getting close to the four years of a medical school education.




it is human to love others, including our furry companions - Not 'Things".
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Medicine - evolves - i remember when teh first reports that peptic Ulcer disease was caused by H. Pylori out of australia came out - to rousing condemnation of many medical groups.

The authors won teh Nobel prize = Very rare for clinicians - and revolutionized the treatment of Gastroesophageal reflux and peptic ulcer disease.
Good example Oeb. People who took antibiotics that attacked H. Pylori were being cured of ulcers. Who would have thought it? Ulcers were supposed to be caused by stress and acid in your stomach.

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it is human to love others, including our furry companions....
This is why I'll never give up on trying to persuade Levianon to get vaccinated. I won't keep working on you though, since I know you've got some natural immunity from having the disease.
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Thank you - good Sir.
If and when the studies show people who have natural immunity from contracting Wuhan disease benefit from immunization - and in my scenario , vaccination is safe and effective at improving clinical outcome

I will likely get a vaccination for Wuhan virus.



Meanwhile - I protest the fiden/DPST mandated campaign to vaccinate regardless of medical status - it is simply a 'flag of obedience' to the DPST narrative and nomenklatura.
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Vaccines can be great. there is no doubt that overall the "discovery" of vaccines and induced immunity by Louis Pasture in the 19th Century has saved untold thousands/millions of human lives. Livestock to0.

However: There can be valid reasons for an individual person to not get a specific vaccine due to other underlying medical conditions. A blanket condemnation of persons who are not vaccinated is unwarranted,

No one should be forced or bullied in to taking a medication against the advice of their personal physician.
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Vaccines can be great. there is no doubt that overall the "discovery" of vaccines and induced immunity by Louis Pasture in the 19th Century has saved untold thousands/millions of human lives.
Too bad the Covid shot isn't actually a vaccine.

It's a mRNA shot that's supposed to mimic the response to the Wuhan flu.

SUPPOSED being the operative word.
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If it operates like a vaccine, provides induced immunity like a vaccine,and is safe and effective as tested as a vaccine
One may call it a vaccine appropriately - no matter the antigen inducing immunity.


ICU812 - I agree - and decry the forcible politicization, and utilization of a medication as a marker for DPST party loyalty to their marxist cause.
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If it operates like a vaccine, provides induced immunity like a vaccine,and is safe and effective as tested as a vaccine
One may call it a vaccine appropriately - no matter the antigen inducing immunity.
IF being the operative word...

Those dead and injured from the shot may beg to disagree.
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More evidence Dr Byram Bridle https://uncoverdc.com/2021/05/31/vac...a-big-mistake/
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My granny lived to 100, never got a single vaccine and smoked 2 packs of Tarytons a day.
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Growing proof that "vaccines " have negative long team effects on immunity
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please provide that proof - RD

Thank U
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