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Old 08-15-2021, 09:37 AM   #1
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MSNBC host Joy Reid, who is known for her particularly deranged takes, tweeted something absurd even for her. On Saturday, she warned that the plight of Afghan women at the hands of the Taliban is a "cautionary tale" for women in the United States.
Reid did not clarify who she was speaking of with this "far religious right dreaming of a theocracy" in the United States.
Republican strategist Matt Whitlock had the receipts to prove that Reid has made this same comparison countless times.
Others joined in to point out the absurdity of such a tweet.
Even a user who identified as someone who is "no fan of the evangelical right" wasn't thrilled.
Some users also used the tweet as a reminder that staff from The Bulwark have gone on Reid's MSNBC show, "The ReidOut."
Others pointed out the historic amount of women in Congress.
As we've covered before, Reid has welcomed those on her show who make other comparisons when it comes to the Taliban, as former Lincoln Project senior adviser Kurt Bardella did in May. "I've been thinking to myself this whole time, you know, Al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden, the Taliban, the people who wanted to do harm to our nation and to our way of life and democracy, they got nothing on what this Republican Party is doing," Bardella said, during a segment. He doubled down on such remarks.
When it comes to their treatment of women, the Taliban do not merely turn them away from getting an education.
As the Feminist Majority Foundation outlined:
Upon seizing power, the Taliban regime instituted a system of gender apartheid effectively thrusting the women of Afghanistan into a state of virtual house arrest. Under Taliban rule women were stripped of all human rights – their work, visibility, opportunity for education, voice, healthcare, and mobility. When they took control in 1996, the Taliban initially imposed strict edicts that:
  • Banished women from the workforce
  • Closed schools to girls and women and expelled women from universities
  • Prohibited women from leaving their homes unless accompanied by a close male relative
  • Ordered the publicly visible windows of women’s houses painted black and forced women to wear the burqa (or chadari) – which completely shrouds the body, leaving only a small mesh-covered opening through which to see
  • Prohibited women and girls from being examined by male physicians while at the same time prohibited female doctors and nurses from working
Women were brutally beaten, publicly flogged, and killed for violating Taliban decrees. Even after international condemnation, the Taliban made only slight changes. Some say it was progress when the Taliban allowed a few women doctors and nurses to work, even while hospitals still had segregated wards for women. In Kabul and other cities, a few home schools for girls operated in secret. In addition, women who conducted home schools.
Such mistreatment and abuse has been the subject of articles, scholarly articles, as well as web pages, including an archived version of the State Department during the George W. Bush administration.

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The Taliban are referenced in a Brookings report from September 2020 by John R. Allen and Vanda Felbab-Brown on "The fate of women’s rights in Afghanistan."
A TIME article by Lauren Bohn from December 8, 2018 lamented that "'We're All Handcuffed in This Country.' Why Afghanistan Is Still the Worst Place in the World to Be a Woman."



typical communist DPST hater adn race-baiter Joy Reid - clueless as to facts and truth
She needs to take a long vacation in afghanistan with the Taliban - and let them show her their ways
Unfortunately - even teh Taliban woudl likely be totally disgusted by her nonsense.

redi is just a propaganda spewing Lying race- baiter.

As are all teh DPST CRT spewing haters.
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Old 08-15-2021, 11:03 AM   #2
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As are all teh DPST CRT spewing haters.
Posts oeb11, as he spews hate...
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All 4 people watching agree.
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Ok.. she's an absolute nutjob.


But do understand.. there is a far right fringe element in the Republican party that would love nothing more than to go back to a strict "Biblical" lifestyle...



Both sides have their fringe nutters... and the other side often overestimates how many nutters there are.
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Old 08-15-2021, 08:13 PM   #5
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Ok.. she's an absolute nutjob.


But do understand.. there is a far right fringe element in the Republican party that would love nothing more than to go back to a strict "Biblical" lifestyle...



Which is what put me off from the Republican party for years, hell decades until it became clear to me that I was over estimating their influence and saw no real example of it creeping into policy.




Both sides have their fringe nutters... and the other side often overestimates how many nutters there are.

But wouldn't you agree that right now, as we speak, the Democrats are far in the lead of nutcases and they have the power right now.

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But wouldn't you agree that right now, as we speak, the Democrats are far in the lead of nutcases and they have the power right now.

I'd agree that they "technically" have the power (though... being a dead heat in the Senate doesn't equate to much). However-- no, they are not far in the lead of nutcases.... both sides fringe are equally problematic in my eyes.



What is more telling to me than anything else is this.....


Every time Republicans take control-- the left is in a frenzy about how all these horrible things are going to happen (abortion banned, gay marriage banned, welfare eliminated for poor starving kids, etc)... but-- none of these things ever happen.


Every time Democrats take control-- the right is in a frenzy about how all these horrible things are going to happen (they're gonna take your guns, forced abortions, socialism, etc) but-- none of these things ever happen.


That's because the fringe is what is the most terrifying-- and the fringe is just that..... the fringe. The moderates on both sides don't want ANY of these things.. they just want to keep the paycheck coming in. And these fringe issues are the EASIEST way to fundraise.



Hell-- I'm not a Biden supporter.. but FFS-- he is suddenly this representation of socialism, when he has spent the majority of his career being.. what would be considered a conservative by most modern standards (Crime Bill... Bankruptcy Bill). He doesn't give a fuck about the socialist fringe-- he just knows that if he gives small morsels, he'll get the votes. He's just as moderate now as he ever was. Likewise with Trump-- a lifelong liberal who was suddenly the golden boy of the evangelical right-- and nobody batted an eye.



Its all theatre.
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I like how Tucker calls her "the race lady."
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I like how Tucker's lawyers said that no reasonable person would take Tucker seriously.



With friends like that......
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I'd agree that they "technically" have the power (though... being a dead heat in the Senate doesn't equate to much). However-- no, they are not far in the lead of nutcases.... both sides fringe are equally problematic in my eyes.



What is more telling to me than anything else is this.....


Every time Republicans take control-- the left is in a frenzy about how all these horrible things are going to happen (abortion banned, gay marriage banned, welfare eliminated for poor starving kids, etc)... but-- none of these things ever happen.


Every time Democrats take control-- the right is in a frenzy about how all these horrible things are going to happen (they're gonna take your guns, forced abortions, socialism, etc) but-- none of these things ever happen.


That's because the fringe is what is the most terrifying-- and the fringe is just that..... the fringe. The moderates on both sides don't want ANY of these things.. they just want to keep the paycheck coming in. And these fringe issues are the EASIEST way to fundraise.



Hell-- I'm not a Biden supporter.. but FFS-- he is suddenly this representation of socialism, when he has spent the majority of his career being.. what would be considered a conservative by most modern standards (Crime Bill... Bankruptcy Bill). He doesn't give a fuck about the socialist fringe-- he just knows that if he gives small morsels, he'll get the votes. He's just as moderate now as he ever was. Likewise with Trump-- a lifelong liberal who was suddenly the golden boy of the evangelical right-- and nobody batted an eye.



Its all theatre.

I take your point about how in the past all the extreme things predicted rarely came to pass but I think this time is different. I think we are under going a dramatic sea change from this Democrat party. Look at words being scrubbed from our language with treats of punishment on the job, in the Universities, in the board rooms, on line. People are being CANCELLED!



This is different Grace, this is very different.
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I like how Tucker's lawyers said that no reasonable person would take Tucker seriously.



With friends like that......

It's a legal argument and it worked.

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It's a legal argument and it worked.

Yes.. because they are correct.. no reasonable person would take Tucker seriously. Don't get me wrong.. there are pundits on the conservative networks that I like. Tucker isn't one of them.. he's right up there with Alex Jones in my book.
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Thank u grace - enjoy your Xinn and Rachel Madcow.

and when they come for You - there will be ............


referring to fiden as a 'conservative' - My, My - how reality does appear through rose colored lenses of teh liberal "karens'!
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Yes.. because they are correct.. no reasonable person would take Tucker seriously. Don't get me wrong.. there are pundits on the conservative networks that I like. Tucker isn't one of them.. he's right up there with Alex Jones in my book.
I guess that makes Gen. Milley Vanilli not reasonable. They spent time talking shit about a Conservative pundit and not preparing to evac Kabul.

Seems like that jackasses resignation ought to be on the resolute desk by the end of the day.
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Thank u grace - enjoy your Xinn and Rachel Madcow.

and when they come for You - there will be ............


referring to fiden as a 'conservative' - My, My - how reality does appear through rose colored lenses of teh liberal "karens'!

1. I'm not a fan of CNN nor am I a fan of Rachel Maddow-- the fact that you equate not being a fan of Tucker Carlson with automatically being on the other side of the scale is part of why I can't take the majority of your arguments seriously here.


2. I said-- his past actions could easily be considered as a part of the Conservative platform (Crime Bill, BK bill). I've also said.. more than once, that I didn't vote for him.. but I guess that doesn't matter when you're trying to push propaganda rather than have a cogent discussion on anything. Most of everyone who has been in DC for more than 25 years isn't what they claim to be.. they're all serving their own interests... from Biden to McConnell.
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I guess that makes Gen. Milley Vanilli not reasonable. They spent time talking shit about a Conservative pundit and not preparing to evac Kabul.

Seems like that jackasses resignation ought to be on the resolute desk by the end of the day.

If that's what happened (I don't know.. I've been somewhat busy finishing up my semester) then yeah-- I'd be inclined to agree.



Political party does not earn anyone quarter with me. If you don't do your fucking job then GTFO. Period.
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