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Old 11-03-2024, 08:57 AM   #1
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Default Trump as a Businessman

Serial backruptcies.



His net worth is less than what one could have aquired by putting his inheritance in a mutual fund.



Past predicts future behaviors.
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Old 11-03-2024, 09:01 AM   #2
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For Contrast, What has Harris achieved? I'll wait.
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Old 11-03-2024, 10:13 AM   #3
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And yet here we are, the man is famous, richer than you or me, and about to be elected for the third time as president.
So I'd say he's good enough of a businessman
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And yet here we are, the man is famous, richer than you or me, and about to be elected for the third time as president.
So I'd say he's good enough of a businessman
Never a doubt in my mind!

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Old 11-03-2024, 11:02 AM   #5
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And yet here we are, the man is famous, richer than you or me, and about to be elected for the third time as president.
So I'd say he's good enough of a businessman
Seems the op is asking about the benefit of his business acumen. Your answer, assuming he has any, is that it benefits only the orange one. That certainly tracks with everything he does.
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Old 11-03-2024, 11:17 AM   #6
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Seems the op is asking about the benefit of his business acumen. Your answer, assuming he has any, is that it benefits only the orange one. That certainly tracks with everything he does.
Well, I haven't studied his annual reports, a cursory look indicates he's been active in media, branding, real estate, has built and managed actively, had his ups and downs and landed on his feet.
If he could build, fail and succeed, negotiate his way through bankruptcies, start more companies, make it big on tv and make money through it all then power to him.
As for benefitting himself, presumably his employees also benefited, probably contractors and communities did also.
Not sure what else would be expected of him.. should he earn the Nobel Peace Prize in the process or something?
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I’ve always been confused by people who think a good businessman would make a good President.

Without debating Trump’s business acumen the fact is that Government is not a business. I would much rather have someone who shows acumen for good governance rather than good business in the office of the president.
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I’ve always been confused by people who think a good businessman would make a good President.

Without debating Trump’s business acumen the fact is that Government is not a business. I would much rather have someone who shows acumen for good governance rather than good business in the office of the president.
I couldn't disagree more, txdot. Most of the people running the government are lawyers. They measure their success by how many new laws they enact. I would much rather see government staffed by competent "public servants" with business experience who know how to earn a profit - which in the case of government means running a surplus, not the perennial deficits of $2+ trillion year in & year out that we are currently saddled with!

Don't give me this crap about "government is not a business". That's just an excuse for boundless corruption, over-spending and waste - all of which are rampant throughout the DC swamp. There is no accountability, no incentive to deliver efficient results at reasonable cost.

In the private sector, if you screw up and start booking losses instead of profits you will be fired. In the public sector, if you screw up you just blame it on inadequate funding. Not only will you NOT be fired - you will be REWARDED with a bigger budget next year. How insane is that? The ranks of government are full of people who have failed upward.

Just to be clear, I say all of this as a seasoned Keynesian, someone who has long supported prudent public pump-priming during periods of private economic contraction.

Also to be clear, I don't mean to over-generalize or suggest there are no competent and dedicated "public servants" among the millions of government employees. Michael Lewis spotlighted a few of the good ones in his latest book.

But the people who actually control the nation's purse strings have proven themselves over & over again to be infuriatingly incompetent, untrustworthy and corrupt. I may scoff at Elon Musk's promise to squeeze $2 trillion in waste out of our current $6.5 trillion federal budget, but that doesn't mean I'm not willing to let him try!

Instead of lawyers, we should turn government over to business people who know how to meet payrolls and turn around failing organizations. If I had anything to say about it, I would require every aspirant for public office in this country to write an essay explaining the difference between debt and equity. The essay would have to be submitted and approved by a panel of non-partisan finance & accounting experts before anyone could run for public office.

If that sounds crazy, think about how long we've let the lawyers fuck everything up. At this point, what do we have to lose? My proposed screening process would tell everyone whether a would-be politician has the slightest clue about the real underpinnings of growth in a private market economy like ours - or if, alternatively, they just want to stick their greedy snouts into the public trough and chomp away like the pigs most of them are!
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Serial backruptcies.



His net worth is less than what one could have aquired by putting his inheritance in a mutual fund.



Past predicts future behaviors.

Donald Trump has never declared bankruptcy
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Donald Trump has never declared bankruptcy
The OP did not say that.

He just listed "Serial bankruptcies."

I don't know how you define "serial." But Trump's companies have filed six business related bankruptcies. Sounds like....serial to me.

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The OP did not say that.

He just listed "Serial bankruptcies."

I don't know how you define "serial." But Trump's companies have filed six business related bankruptcies. Sounds like....serial to me.

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Donald Trump has never declared bankruptcy
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Default Get Your Ass Out of the Dugout! Nobody Likes a Whiny Bench Warmer!

Why do I always have to repeat myself?

Here's something I posted 5-1/2 years ago that is relevant again:

https://eccie.net/showpost.php?p=106...7&postcount=31
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Old 11-03-2024, 08:56 PM   #13
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The OP did not say that.

He just listed "Serial bankruptcies."

I don't know how you define "serial." But Trump's companies have filed six business related bankruptcies. Sounds like....serial to me.

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Quick 1:23 minute video: https://www.yahoo.com/news/old-clip-...135527692.html

Arguing about whether Trump himself declared bankruptcy or not is silly irrelevant MAGA semantics when the LLCs that he owned did.
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I’ve always been confused by people who think a good businessman would make a good President.

Without debating Trump’s business acumen the fact is that Government is not a business. I would much rather have someone who shows acumen for good governance rather than good business in the office of the president.
The oath they take (essentially the job description) is to “establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.” Some of that has to do with business, and a lot of it doesn’t. In fact, some of it runs counter to unlimited growth. But, damn, if they take care of those five core values, only the most selfish would take issue with them.
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Old 11-03-2024, 10:01 PM   #15
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Arguing about whether Trump himself declared bankruptcy or not is silly irrelevant MAGA semantics when the LLCs that he owned did.
And then there's the 34 felony convictions related to how "well" he ran his "business"....

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