Dim Dem Foibles

[Flair4Drama]

And just like that....
Schumer caves to the Prez....

[Flair4Drama]

So in just the last 24 hours, the Democrats have come out all in favor of allowing Third World gang members to stay in America forever and against fighting back against Third World savages, who are firing rockets at our ships.

No wonder Democrats are polling on par with herpes.

[Flair4Drama]

[offshoredrilling]

[brasil]

To be clear, no one, and certainly not the judge in this case, is saying "to let them stay in America forever." He is saying that everyone is entitled to due process before deportation, but especially if it involves being transported to a prison in a country other than their own. MAGA is making up its own rules, many of them unlawful.

[Flair4Drama]

Looks like that judge is om his own mission.....

[Flair4Drama]

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Originally Posted by brasil

To be clear, no one, and certainly not the judge in this case, is saying "to let them stay in America forever."

Incorrect

That is EXACTLY what the judge is saying.

Wanna buy a bridge?

[FBSMLUVR]

Originally Posted by brasil

To be clear, no one, and certainly not the judge in this case, is saying "to let them stay in America forever." He is saying that everyone is entitled to due process before deportation, but especially if it involves being transported to a prison in a country other than their own. MAGA is making up its own rules, many of them unlawful.

I actually have some legal precedent that will refute your argument that these pieces of shit deserve due process under our laws in this country. I’m not in the mood nor have the time at the moment, I’m cooking dinner, but there is a decision by SCOTUS (can’t remember the name of the case at the moment, but read about some of it earlier) from the early 1900’s, around WWI I believe it was, that stated this is the law of the land….. The Alien Enemies Act of 1798. And no judge has the right to dispute it. Please read the following quote from the actual law:

“The president may invoke the Alien Enemies Act in times of “declared war” or when a foreign government threatens or undertakes an “invasion” or “predatory incursion” against U.S. territory.”

Take note to the most important “or”: “predatory incursion”

You’re gonna tell me that these fucking piece of shit gang bangers that Biden allowed to stroll into our country should be awarded due process?!? They’ve raped & murdered our innocent civilians and you want to make sure they get due fucking process? Paid for with our tax dollars?!?

And before you argue my point, please read on:

“But the president need not wait for Congress to invoke the law based on a threatened or ongoing invasion or predatory incursion. The president has inherent authority to repel these kinds of sudden attacks — an authority that necessarily implies the discretion to decide when an invasion or predatory incursion is underway.”

And btw, Woodrow Wilson (WWI) & FDR (WWII), both Lib Dems, both invoked The Alien Enemies Act during peacetime prior to Congress actually “declaring war”.

Due process my ass. Put these cocksuckers on a plane and get them the fuck outta here. I could give a fuck what country they’re being sent to. They should have thought about that before they came here illegally. Unless of course you’re open to having them live in your neighborhood? I know I don’t want them in mine!

[Flair4Drama]

Originally Posted by FBSMLUVR

Due process my ass. Put these cocksuckers on a plane and get them the fuck outta here. I could give a fuck what country they’re being sent to. They should have thought about that before they came here illegally. Unless of course you’re open to having them live in your neighborhood? I know I don’t want them in mine!

Let's send 'em to Martha's Vineyard.... I'm sure they will be welcomed with open arms....

[brasil]

Originally Posted by FBSMLUVR

I actually have some legal precedent that will refute your argument that these pieces of shit deserve due process under our laws in this country. I’m not in the mood nor have the time at the moment, I’m cooking dinner, but there is a decision by SCOTUS (can’t remember the name of the case at the moment, but read about some of it earlier) from the early 1900’s, around WWI I believe it was, that stated this is the law of the land….. The Alien Enemies Act of 1798. And no judge has the right to dispute it. Please read the following quote from the actual law:

“The president may invoke the Alien Enemies Act in times of “declared war” or when a foreign government threatens or undertakes an “invasion” or “predatory incursion” against U.S. territory.”

Take note to the most important “or”: “predatory incursion”

You’re gonna tell me that these fucking piece of shit gang bangers that Biden allowed to stroll into our country should be awarded due process?!? They’ve raped & murdered our innocent civilians and you want to make sure they get due fucking process? Paid for with our tax dollars?!?

And before you argue my point, please read on:

“But the president need not wait for Congress to invoke the law based on a threatened or ongoing invasion or predatory incursion. The president has inherent authority to repel these kinds of sudden attacks — an authority that necessarily implies the discretion to decide when an invasion or predatory incursion is underway.”

And btw, Woodrow Wilson (WWI) & FDR (WWII), both Lib Dems, both invoked The Alien Enemies Act during peacetime prior to Congress actually “declaring war”.

Due process my ass. Put these cocksuckers on a plane and get them the fuck outta here. I could give a fuck what country they’re being sent to. They should have thought about that before they came here illegally. Unless of course you’re open to having them live in your neighborhood? I know I don’t want them in mine!

I think you are correct in describing the members of the Tren de Aragua as "pieces of shit." They are a violent criminal gang.

However, the Tren de Aragua is not "a terrorist organization," which is what the Trump administration claims. "By definition, terrorists are people who use criminal violence to further an ideological aim, seeking to coerce changes in policy. Tren de Aragua is clearly a dangerous criminal organization, but ....is not motivated by any particular ideology as it pursues human smuggling, kidnapping for ransom and drug trafficking. Rather, its agenda seems to be reaping illicit profits."

Even scumbags and violent criminals are entitled to due process.

Trump has tried a very clumsy move to justify his unlawful deportation by invoking the Alien Enemies Act of 1798. But that law applies "only to hostile acts perpetrated by enemy nations and commensurate with war and is not relevant to illegal immigration or non state actors like criminal gangs."

Until the courts review and rule upon the claims of the Trump administration, the legality of this deportation is in question. The judge should not be threatened with impeachment. As Chief Justice Roberts has written in his rebuke to Trump, rulings can be appealed, but you can't attack judges that issue rulings you don't agree with.

[brasil]

My apologies to FB for not addressing other points raised in his post, specifically the claim that FDR used the Alien Enemies Act during peacetime. I assume he was referring to the Alien Enemies Act being used to justify the Japanese Internment Act. Pearl Harbor took place on Dec. 7,1941. The date Japanese Internment Act was February 19, 1942, well more that a year after the declaration of war. The Japanese Internment was not a proud moment in the history of the U.S., but at least we were at war, unlike 2025.

[FBSMLUVR]

^^^^

Incorrect.

Might want to check your history books regarding when FDR invoked the Alien Enemies Act & when Congress actually “declared war”.

Also, the time period between Dec. 7, 1941 & Feb 19, 1942 is only a little over 2 months. Which actually has nothing to do with my original point, but I digress.

“I assume he was referring to the Alien Enemies Act being used to justify the Japanese Internment Act.”

Your assumption of what I was referring to is also incorrect. But, you go right ahead and continue to ignore the verbiage in the actual law regarding a “predatory incursion”. Maybe if Biden didn’t allow millions of illegal immigrants into our country without being properly vetted, we wouldn’t even be having this discussion. Ready for them to move into your neighborhood yet?

I often wonder why you didn’t argue the law this strongly when Biden chose to ignore SCOTUS’ opinion regarding the fact that it was unlawful for him to continue forgiving educational loans….but continued forgiving those loans anyway.

TDS maybe?

[Flair4Drama]

[Flair4Drama]

The left can't explain how
No tax on tips
No tax on overtime
No tax on Social Security
No tax on people making $150k or less
means tax breaks for the wealthy.
Weird, huh?

[Flair4Drama]

Someone wants no tax on commissions.... why dontcha just ask.....
I bet he'd do it