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06-03-2025, 05:47 PM
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disgusting obnoxious bill - opinion by Musk
No wonder Trump hurried Musk out the door.
The bill is expected to add $ 5 trillion to the federal debt in 10 years.
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06-03-2025, 06:28 PM
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he's not alone in that assessment.
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06-03-2025, 08:35 PM
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The problem is very few “average voters” give a rats ass about the “debt”
They should. But the worries that go with everyday living take front stage.
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06-03-2025, 11:25 PM
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Well, there goes that BFF Trump/Musk relationship. I guess Musk had to get away from Washington and get back to his businesses to realize what most of this country already knew - that he was working with an incompetent geriatric moron.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...ng-abomination
"I'm sorry, but I just can't stand it anymore. This massive, outrageous, pork-filled Congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination. Shame on those who voted for it: you know you did wrong. You know it," Musk wrote.
"It will massively increase the already gigantic budget deficit to $2.5 trillion (!!!) and burden American citizens with crushingly unsustainable debt."
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06-04-2025, 12:27 PM
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No wonder Trump hurried Musk out the door.
The bill is expected to add $ 5 trillion to the federal debt in 10 years.
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trump doesn't give a shit. He's said it before..he won't be here. As someone pointed out, he'll probably be dead from choking on Putin's dick.
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06-04-2025, 02:36 PM
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It's getting better and better.
Guess sphincter boy muskrat is off his meds..or back on them. Looks like the dipshit is outside the tent, pissing in. At any rate, I always love watching retard fights.
Republicans scramble to avoid a war with Elon Musk
House Republicans, dismayed by Elon Musk's harsh criticism of President Trump's "One Big, Beautiful Bill," are now trying to talk their erstwhile ally down from the ledge.
Why it matters: With over $400 billion at his disposal, the Tesla and SpaceX owner could drown Republicans in opposition cash. And he's saying GOP lawmakers who voted for the bill should be "fired."
- House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) said he called Musk on Tuesday but that the recently departed Trump lieutenant "didn't answer," adding that he hopes to "talk to him today."
What we're hearing: Coming out of their closed-door conference meeting, House Republicans projected optimism they can get Musk back on side.
- "There's a sense that Elon is still learning about the full number of wins in the One Big, Beautiful Bill," another House Republican, speaking on the condition of anonymity to describe private conversations, told Axios.
- The lawmaker said House Republicans have "talked to him in the last 24 hours" and "have helped him understand the big picture."
- Another House Republican told Axios: "I think he'll recognize maybe more than most the challenge that we face when we're trying to cut spending. He simply wants more spending as I understanding. He should know how hard that is."
State of play: Musk slammed the bill as a "disgusting abomination" on Tuesday, writing in a post on X, "Shame on those who voted for it: you know you did wrong. You know it."
- In another post, Musk responded to another user's criticism of the bill writing, "In November next year, we fire all politicians who betrayed the American people."
- All but five House Republicans voted for the reconciliation bill last month.
Between the lines: Johnson said he had a "great conversation" with Musk on Monday morning, before his social media rampage, and that "it's curious to me what happened this week."
- The House speaker said Musk told him in that conversation that he would lend support to Republicans in the 2026 elections.
Zoom in: There is also simmering anger behind the scenes, with Johnson telling colleagues in the conference meeting that Trump is "pissed off" at Musk, according to a source familiar with his comments.
- A third House Republican argued that the bill benefits "middle class families and taxpaying, working-class people" and that "maybe that upsets the billionaire class, I don't know."
- "I think he's flat wrong," Johnson said at his press conference. "I think he's way off on this and I've told him as much."
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06-04-2025, 03:12 PM
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One of the most popular aspects of The Big Beautiful Bill is the elimination of income tax on Tips and Overtime.
This is a huge issue with millions of blue collar workers on hourly pay working the standard 40 hour work week with overtime.
Rand Paul and Elon might think about what it feels like to be Useful Idiots for the Democrats.
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06-04-2025, 04:06 PM
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Why did Musk come out with this kind of statement ?
Why doesn't Trump admit his bill will add trillions to the federal debt ?
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06-04-2025, 07:03 PM
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[QUOTE=VitaMan;1063810067]No wonder Trump hurried Musk out the door.
The bill is expected to add $ 5 trillion to the federal debt in 10 years.[/QUOTE]
Trump knows that. It's all done by design.
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06-04-2025, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by VitaMan
No wonder Trump hurried Musk out the door.
The bill is expected to add $ 5 trillion to the federal debt in 10 years.
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Take it for what it’s worth. A good article on the bill and it’s costs and savings based on CBO scores. In my opinion too many tax cuts.
https://archive.ph/LczmD
A Complete List of Everything in the Republican Bill, and How Much It Would Cost or Save
The tax and spending bill passed by House Republicans early Thursday includes hundreds of provisions and would add an estimated $3.3 trillion to the national debt by extending and expanding large tax cuts, partially offset by cuts to Medicaid, food benefits and other programs. Below is a table that lists the 10-year cost or savings for nearly every provision, as estimated by the Congressional Budget Office.
The C.B.O. evaluation does not include several last-minute changes to the bill made by House Republicans to secure the support of some holdout members. We’ve highlighted the substantive changes. The bill now moves to the Senate, where it is expected to undergo significant alterations.
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06-05-2025, 09:26 AM
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One of the most popular aspects of The Big Beautiful Bill is the elimination of income tax on Tips and Overtime.
This is a huge issue with millions of blue collar workers on hourly pay working the standard 40 hour work week with overtime.
Rand Paul and Elon might think about what it feels like to be Useful Idiots for the Democrats.
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Regardless of the fact that most people who get tips will be completely unaffected by this, due to their low tax rate to begin with, this is not good justification for this Big, Beautiful Piece Of Shit. Stand by for further downgrades of the U.S. governement's credit rating.
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06-05-2025, 09:51 AM
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Why can't Trump admit a mistake ?
Has he ever said "thank you" ?
It is always "things went well" or "things are going very well" ?
Maybe this bill the Republicans will finally stand up to Trump, and act like a separate but equal part
of the federal government.
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06-05-2025, 10:10 AM
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This break up is about to get interesting. Trump is smart not to fuck with Musk. TACO is funny with deflecting with more bullshit executive orders instead of attacking Musk with his usual stupid ass angry social media childish rants.
The GOP better stop being scared about what Trump can do to them. Instead, they better worry about what the richest man in the world can do to their political careers if those two don't start seeing eye to eye about The Big Beautiful Bullshit Bill.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-ove...153732273.html
After watching Elon Musk rip his signature bill throughout the day, President Donald Trump unleashed a flurry of executive actions that bulldozed the discourse to other matters.
Although not the stated goal, the president's blizzard of proclamations on the night of June 4 ‒ reviving a controversial travel ban, ordering an investigation into former President Joe Biden's use of an autopen and banning Harvard University from welcoming international students ‒ was classic Trump: when the going gets tough, change the subject.
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06-05-2025, 11:12 AM
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Why did Musk choose to come out swinging on the budget bill ? It is because he worked hard on
DOGE to reduce expenses, and now Trump proposes to increase the deficit ?
Whatever it may be, Musk is sounding more like a concerned citizen and stand up guy.......not kissing
Trump's ass like so many Republicans who are scared to death to do anything.
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06-05-2025, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Lucas McCain
This break up is about to get interesting. Trump is smart not to fuck with Musk. TACO is funny with deflecting with more bullshit executive orders instead of attacking Musk with his usual stupid ass angry social media childish rants.
The GOP better stop being scared about what Trump can do to them. Instead, they better worry about what the richest man in the world can do to their political careers if those two don't start seeing eye to eye about The Big Beautiful Bullshit Bill.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-ove...153732273.html
After watching Elon Musk rip his signature bill throughout the day, President Donald Trump unleashed a flurry of executive actions that bulldozed the discourse to other matters.
Although not the stated goal, the president's blizzard of proclamations on the night of June 4 ‒ reviving a controversial travel ban, ordering an investigation into former President Joe Biden's use of an autopen and banning Harvard University from welcoming international students ‒ was classic Trump: when the going gets tough, change the subject.
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Trump found what’s left of his backbone after silently taking it in the mouth from Elon Musk for the past 48 hours over Trump’s Big Beautiful bill, which cuts Musk off from EV tax Credits ($ 7,500 per Tesla) and adds $ 5 trillion to the US debt ceiling. But he’s just mad about disappearing tax Credits.
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