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			Some of the Showcases include an additional amount for the vaunted "PSE".  What is that?  More passion (i.e. better acting)?....an unobstructed trip to Greece?....four extra ass slaps?  a bit more "Oh baby you're so BIG!!" or perhaps some genuine high-pitched squeals when I bottom out?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-15-2012, 12:39 PM
			
			
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			I think it means you get to dress up like a plumber or pizza delivery guy.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-15-2012, 12:44 PM
			
			
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			PSE, like GFE, is different depending on who is defining it. That is why you need to get the provider's definition and relate it to your opinion then see what you want to pay for and what you do not want to pay for. 
 
Speaking of "role play", I wonder where IOP would fall for providers, my guess is 5% GFE, 10% PSE, and 85% not on the menu at any cost.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-15-2012, 12:52 PM
			
			
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				I think it means you get to dress up like a plumber or pizza delivery guy. 
			
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That's funny....or a pool boy, or a telephone repair man. You can also act like a boss and actually sexually harass your new secretary, but that may only be included in the Premium PSE package.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-15-2012, 01:03 PM
			
			
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				I think it means you get to dress up like a plumber or pizza delivery guy. 
			
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OOOOoooooooo...you're right!!!  I can do that cool bend where my big 'ol asscrack is out of the back of my plumber boxer shorts!!  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-15-2012, 01:11 PM
			
			
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				PSE, like GFE, is different depending on who is defining it. That is why you need to get the provider's definition and relate it to your opinion then see what you want to pay for and what you do not want to pay for. 
			
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That's exactly right. I think the popularity of things like CIM and Greek empower the providers to categorize and upsell their services. So what they really mean is "I will do the things that she won't do, if you are willing to pay for it". More power to them. Personally, I only see girls whose rates are all-inclusive. But that's just me.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-15-2012, 01:19 PM
			
			
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				That's exactly right. I think the popularity of things like CIM and Greek empower the providers to categorize and upsell their services. So what they really mean is "I will do the things that she won't do, if you are willing to pay for it". More power to them. Personally, I only see girls whose rates are all-inclusive. But that's just me. 
 
 
			
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I agree on the all inclusive. Too bad the providers do not have a "guarantee of satisfaction" for that all-inclusive or any other donation price, but that is what this site is all about, to inform others of one's experience(s) with a certain provider.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-15-2012, 01:20 PM
			
			
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				That's exactly right. I think the popularity of things like CIM and Greek empower the providers to categorize and upsell their services. So what they really mean is "I will do the things that she won't do, if you are willing to pay for it". More power to them. Personally, I only see girls whose rates are all-inclusive. But that's just me.
  
			
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Agreed. A la carte services really ruin the IOP for me.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-15-2012, 03:42 PM
			
			
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			It's an additional $.50 to talk about sex. Remember, the 1st $200.00 is just for time.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-15-2012, 04:34 PM
			
			
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			The term PSE can mean so many different things to everyone.  Does it mean greek? Then just put 100 extra for greek.  Does it mean CIM?  I gotta pay 100 extra for that?  Does it mean fetishes?  Who knows?   
I don't really like it when I see that on an ad and maybe that alone will push me away from that provider.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			About a year ago, on another board, I PMed 5 providers who use the term PSE in their ad's, asking them for their definition of PSE. None had an answer. Three of them said "tell me what you want, and I'll tell you if I do it". Another asked me my definition. To make matters worse, one was CBJ only, and YMMV on DFK. Two of them were charging extra for PSE. 
 
I know what my definition is.  I know what the generally accepted definition is. I also know that if a girl advertises something and doesn't deliver, it will show in my review, same as if I got shorted on time, the pics were bait n switch, or i was up sold.  
 
If a girl advertises a different price for PSE, that's her business, but it better be real PSE, or it's just another form of bait n switch.  
 
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			02-20-2012, 10:58 PM
			
			
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				I know what my definition is.  I know what the generally accepted  definition is. I also know that if a girl advertises something and  doesn't deliver, it will show in my review, same as if I got shorted on  time, the pics were bait n switch, or i was up sold.  
 
If a girl advertises a different price for PSE, that's her business, but  it better be real PSE, or it's just another form of bait n switch.
			
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Love you for this - it's extremely detrimental to real PSE providers when people offer and don't provide it.  It gives people the impression it's just an upsell, and it's not.
 
A *real* PSE can be extremely intense and extremely fun for both parties.  And if you bring your camera, I'll let you film it.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-21-2012, 04:33 AM
			
			
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That's what my definiton of PSE would be.
 
But what is the real definition?  Cause if it is supposed to be like in the porns then I think I'll just stick with GFE.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			I'll tell you this - much like "GFE" I don't think "PSE" needs to have a set definition.  If YOU feel like a star by the end of it that's all I care about.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				I'll tell you this - much like "GFE" I don't think "PSE" needs to have a set definition.  If YOU feel like a star by the end of it that's all I care about. 
			
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I like that. 
 
All sessions should be all inclusive and as long as the "activities" that are done during the session are what the client wants/desires AND is comfortable for the provider to perform/have done, then it should be a great session.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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