Surprising NCNS by Vyvian/Fire

[politebluefish]

It was suggested I post this in co-ed discussions, so here goes:

Although I live about an hour out of Springfield, I found myself in town on Thursday afternoon, and called Vyvian/Fire, (870-688-4613) who posts on BP but has gotten several excellent reviews on this site. She said she was driving to her incall and gave me a time when she would be ready. I responded that this should work out fine, as long as I could get an employee to cover the office for a while, and told her I would call slightly ahead of the appointment time.

I did call, and got no answer at 15 minutes before the appointment time, and several more times that afternoon. Finally, I left a second voicemail message when I had to leave town for the day, suggesting that a Saturday morning time might work better.

The next day I got a text, telling me the Saturday morning time would work.

I drove another hour back to Springfield, called 20 minutes ahead of time, and here we go again with the unanswered calls.

Because she has gotten such great reviews, I'm a little surprised by the whole thing. But now I'm out nearly four hours of drive time, a fair amount of gas money, and some precious minutes on my hobby phone.

I understand from another hobbyist that she NCNS'd him as well last week. Hmmmmm. Not a good sign.

[grayturner]

She did the same thing to me last week. I made an appointment on P411 and even adjusted the time to make it more convenient for her. When the time came she did not answer calls or texts. I was also very surprised by this because I thought she had a good reputation as a reliable provider.

[mostlynormalstl]

Amazing how quickly one's good reputation can go in the gutter just by adopting bad business practices. I hope she's not getting burnt out.

Just like in the thread that sexysinglemommy posted about the NCNS in Sprgfld, same applies here.

If an appt is scheduled there is no reason that the simple courtesy of a phone call can't be done. Maybe she will figure it out if her phone stops ringing.

[flyinghillbilly]

X 2 for me as well

[naughtynatale]

Well just know this guys. It was very nice of you to arrange your time to make it better for her. And that you did the call before arriving/on your way. That goes a long way with me and shows great respect.

KUDOS

[Vyvian]

Originally Posted by flyinghillbilly

X 2 for me as well

I guess I'm curious as to why you would participate in this conversation, considering that you gave me a good review & recommendation in March of this year...If we have any problems between the two of us, please PM me or call me so we can talk-privately...Luv, Vyvian

[grayturner]

Originally Posted by Vyvian

I guess I'm curious as to why you would participate in this conversation, considering that you gave me a good review & recommendation in March of this year...If we have any problems between the two of us, please PM me or call me so we can talk-privately...Luv, Vyvian

I'm curious as to why you would not participate in this discussion. Do you have a reasonable explanation for the rest of us as to why you wasted our time?

[Vyvian]

Originally Posted by grayturner

I'm curious as to why you would not participate in this discussion. Do you have a reasonable explanation for the rest of us as to why you wasted our time?

I will speak w/ anyone who speaks to me w/ respect & doesn't mind brutal honesty-privately, i don't agree that this forum is the place to have a personal issue discussion

[Makayla of Missouri]

Unfortunately that is EXACTLY what this forum is for: Public discussion of providers and sometimes of hobbyists. Nice or not, fair or no, that's what the gentlemen do on this site: Gossip more than girls!

I sure hope everything is alright, Vyv... it's been a very long time since I've heard from ya. Miss ya!

[mostlynormalstl]

Originally Posted by Vyvian

I will speak w/ anyone who speaks to me w/ respect & doesn't mind brutal honesty-privately, i don't agree that this forum is the place to have a personal issue discussion

I don't see anyone discussing a "personal issue". This is a business discussion. You apparently made appointments with multiple gentlemen, and then did not have the courtesy to tell them you were not going to keep the appointment. That's not a personal discussion and no one has speculated anything about what the reasons might be, which is certainly better than would happen in many of the more active sections of this board.

Regardless of how good your services are, and by all accounts they are very good, that is the type of business practice that can hurt your reputation and ultimately your business.

It should also be pointed out that a provider posted a similar thread about men who had appointments with her, and then NCNS'd her. While she was basically venting and I can't blame her, I ws surprised she didn't actually "name names", as I think most logical people would concede that although sometimes things happen, there are really no valid excuses for not being able to give the courtesy of contact to let the other person know.

If it's once....well...sometimes shit happens. If it is multiple times, then it's a trend/habit and relevant to this board since the name of the board is Escort Client Community INFORMATION Exchange.

There's no doubt that you have benefited from the great reviews posted about you on this board. If something happens in the way you conduct your business that causes you to leave people hanging with no explanation or the courtesy of a phone call, then that's certainly relevant.

I have not seen anyone "taking shots" at you or attacking you personally in this thread, In fact, all of the posters, including the ones you "no called/no showed" have stated their version of the facts without embellishment or making personal attacks, which is exactly how it should be presented.

As a registered member, you are certainly free to reply and or offer an explanation, either publicly or in private who were inconvenienced. I am also pretty sure that if you explained to the clients you kept waiting and offered somehow to make up their inconvenience, then I am sure that would be welcomed, but is entirely your decision.

On a different topic, you should consider becoming a verified provider so that you can take advantage of our advertising forums.

Good luck to you.

[grayturner]

Originally Posted by Vyvian

I will speak w/ anyone who speaks to me w/ respect & doesn't mind brutal honesty-privately, i don't agree that this forum is the place to have a personal issue discussion

Speaking for myself, you can not say that all my communications with you were not courteous and respectful.
Your line about "Brutal Honesty" sounds very much like a threat to me. Perhaps I am reading that wrong because you have nothing to threaten me with or any reason to do so unless it is my pointing out your poor scheduling practices. If it were intended as a threat it does nothing but further discredit you.
I have no desire to enter a public pissing match with you so that is my last comment on the subject.

[theeb32]

does it seem that this threat of outing a hobbiest is becoming a trend, it seems ever time a provider get her feathers ruffled there is a backdoor threat to out the guy. this again is a wake up call guys

[flyinghillbilly]

Originally Posted by Vyvian

I guess I'm curious as to why you would participate in this conversation, considering that you gave me a good review & recommendation in March of this year...If we have any problems between the two of us, please PM me or call me so we can talk-privately...Luv, Vyvian

i will p/m you

[mostlynormalstl]

Originally Posted by theeb32

does it seem that this threat of outing a hobbiest is becoming a trend, it seems ever time a provider get her feathers ruffled there is a backdoor threat to out the guy. this again is a wake up call guys

I didn't read that into at all. Truthfully i'm not sure what she's saying, but i'm not able to read that into it.

I can appreciate everyone being a little sketchy about that though given some of the events over the last few months, but I see nothing here that would make me think that.

[Mrzip]

I am one of those guys that has to travel at a minimum 100 miles to hobby. I have been blown off more than once and I will admit it does not sit well. If it was one guy you could chalk it up to perhaps something even just personal. The muliti posts, including guys that have seen Vivian mulitple times is cause for real concern. I have seen Vivian twice and enjoyed both times. Right now I am not willing to schedule her again until she is will to clear up the NS problem.