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Old Yesterday, 06:46 PM   #1
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Default OPINION: Think support for Trump is dying down? His New York rally told a different story.

even a liberal woman writer for liberal USA Today feels the Trump effect!

OPINION: Think support for Trump is dying down? His New York rally told a different story.


Sara Pequeño, USA TODAY
Sun, September 22, 2024 at 4:11 AM CDT·4 min read


UNIONDALE, N.Y. — The sales pitch started on the walk over to the Nassau Coliseum, where men were hawking "Make America Great Again" hats. A giant digital sign above the arena flashed a picture of former President Donald Trump’s face.


As I got closer to the arena Wednesday, I stood in line with supporters amid a maze of lawn chairs and trash left by people who had been in line for hours prior. People saw folks they knew and made small talk. Supersized Trump flags waved in the breeze above more people selling Trump merchandise, in case you failed to bring your own. To my left was a large sign warning about the “mind virus” that is “fake news media.”


“We are going to rescue our Democrat-run states,” Trump told a lively audience later that night. “We are going to start by saving the great state of New York.”


It’s unlikely that Trump will win New York, a state that has gone blue in every election since Ronald Reagan. In 2020, Joe Biden beat Trump in his home state by 23 percentage points. But even if Trump doesn’t fulfill his dream of winning New York, his Long Island rally showed me that he can still bring out a crowd – and why that’s cause for concern.


The polls say one thing about enthusiasm for Trump. I saw another.

Inside, the stadium was filling up with red hats. Supporters chatted with their friends in their seats or stood in line for hot dogs and soft pretzels as they waited for Trump to speak at his second rally since the second assassination attempt, held on the day he was supposed to be sentenced by a Manhattan judge in his hush-money case.


The crowd nearly filled the 16,000-seat stadium.


If you’ve been watching the news, you may assume that Trump rallies are dying down. The polls may be providing a sense of relief: ABC News' "538" says Vice President Kamala Harris is favored to win the election.


Harris is also leading Trump in fundraising, with $47 million raised in 24 hours after the presidential debate.


The problem is that we’ve seen this all before. In 2016, people underestimated Trump’s ability to win. The polls suggested that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton would prevail. She proceeded to win the popular vote but lost the Electoral College.


It is entirely within the realm of possibility that history repeats itself this November.

Trump sees a second wave of support post-assassination attempt

Many people I know believe that Harris will win the 2024 election. While I’m cautiously optimistic, I’m not sure that people realize how close this race will end up being. MAGA seems to be gaining a second wind after the attempts on Trump’s life.


I spoke with Tatiana Agarwal, 19, and Maximillian Stebelsky, 20, two New York University students who waited for more than two hours to get into the arena. They were wearing Make America Great Again hats in neon pink and blue, respectively.


“Regardless of what party you’re with: He may be a Republican, he may be the former president, he may not be liked by a lot of people, but at the end of the day he’s a human just like everybody else,” Stebelsky said when I asked about the second assassination attempt.


“These should be spaces for people to just gather around and socialize and come together in favor of a certain candidate,” Agarwal added. “It shouldn’t be about violence.”


The American people live within two realities. There are people who believe that Trump – a convicted felon, a reported sexual abuser, a raging narcissist and a person in obvious mental decline – is the one who will save our country. There are about as many people who believe he is a danger to democracy, and should not be allowed to return to the White House. Still, the Electoral College could mean that Trump wins once again.


I might not be buying what Trump is selling, but a lot of people are. It’s important not to lose sight of that come November.


Follow USA TODAY elections columnist Sara Pequeño on X, formerly Twitter: @sara__pequeno
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Apparently a lot of the same. I guess those who left early were trying to beat the traffic.

https://www.newsweek.com/videos-appe...-rally-1956115

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Apparently a lot of the same. I guess those who left early were trying to beat the traffic.

https://www.newsweek.com/videos-appe...-rally-1956115

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAMAGSA



if they leave after 30 minutes you might be onto something. after an hour and half it's just a nothing-burger.
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... Some leave early at Steelers football.
Some leave early at Church service.
Some may even leave early at the Trump rallys.

But the important elements with all three are that they were
there in the first place, and that they heard the Message!

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... Some leave early at Steelers football.
Some leave early at Church service.
Some may even leave early at the Trump rallys.

But the important elements with all three are that they were
there in the first place, and that they heard the Message!

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Yeah, it do the Steelers shit themselves when people leave early? Nope. It’s likely well deserved.

Do the preachers lose their minds when people walk out on their sermons? (Or in some cases just change the channel?). No.

Does Trump shit himself and lose his mind when people walk out on his rambling list of grievances?

Absolutely.

You’d think he’d show his dwindling MAGA base a little more respect.
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if they leave after 30 minutes you might be onto something. after an hour and half it's just a nothing-burger.
Who waits an hour and a half for any burger?

Someone who really wants there to be something in that nothing burger and then realizes it was nothing to begin with. And leaves.

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I remember back in 2020 when Trump supporters were bragging about the size of Trump rallies and complaining that Biden was sitting in his basement.

How did that work out for Trump? The Trump base will show up for any Trump rally, although not close to the levels of 2016 and 2020, to listen to him ramble on incoherently from subject to subject. To Trump's credit, he hasn't mentioned Hannibal Lecter in a few weeks.
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And this cost the tax payers over $1million in security that trump says he is entitled to.
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Yeah, it do the Steelers shit themselves when people leave early? Nope. It’s likely well deserved.

Do the preachers lose their minds when people walk out on their sermons? (Or in some cases just change the channel?). No.

Does Trump shit himself and lose his mind when people walk out on his rambling list of grievances?

Absolutely.

You’d think he’d show his dwindling MAGA base a little more respect.

dwindling? it's increasing.

https://www.newsweek.com/videos-appe...-rally-1956115


is this the best the press can do?

omg! dozens of empty seats ... in a 16,000 seat arena


Recently released video footage appears to show dozens of empty seats toward the end of former President Donald Trump's Wednesday speech at a Long Island Campaign rally.


The 16,000-seat Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum was packed at the beginning of the rally, with thousands more in the overflow area outside, watching the event on large screens.


over 18,000 total. maybe 20,000

btw what's the other candidate's crowds like? anyone leaving early? probably not showing up at all.


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I don’t understand Trump’s obsession with crowd size, his rallies, how long they stay, how much they love him. And now we have an entire thread dedicated to this. I mean really, who cares. I sure don’t.

Here’s Another.

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I remember back in 2020 when Trump supporters were bragging about the size of Trump rallies and complaining that Biden was sitting in his basement.

How well do I remember that. Like you said it didn't mean a thing.


Even thought I'm a hard core conservative, irony is still irony. Trump has these great crowds, yet they claimed he couldn't find 12 jurors to give him a fair trail. Not being from New York, it must be a Manhattan thing.
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How well do I remember that. Like you said it didn't mean a thing.


Even thought I'm a hard core conservative, irony is still irony. Trump has these great crowds, yet they claimed he couldn't find 12 jurors to give him a fair trail. Not being from New York, it must be a Manhattan thing.
Who claimed that? Trump?

Juries in a courtroom aren't an indication of support, any more than the inability to keep the stands full throughout his railings, errr, rallies.

If you wish to complain about the fairness of the juries in his felony and sexual assault defamation trials in New York, open a new thread.

Let's stick to the topic, OK?

Trump's support as claimed in the OP's opinion piece is a paper tiger. It's a more subtle fear tactic aimed at a more sophisticated Democratic voter.

I think we'll find out who stands with him on election day.
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Who claimed that? Trump?

Juries in a courtroom aren't an indication of support, any more than the inability to keep the stands full throughout his railings, errr, rallies.

If you wish to complain about the fairness of the juries in his felony and sexual assault defamation trials in New York, open a new thread.

Let's stick to the topic, OK?

Trump's support as claimed in the OP's opinion piece is a paper tiger. It's a more subtle fear tactic aimed at a more sophisticated Democratic voter.

I think we'll find out who stands with him on election day.

it's a 16,000 person paper tiger. not counting the several thousands in overflow.

and the author is a liberal female. hardly a biased Pro-Trumper yes?

did i mention she writes for the also liberal USA Today?


the press is desperate to deflect the fact that Trump is packing them in to overflow levels and the best they can do is say "a couple dozen people people left early!!" after over an hour being there.

if that other candidate held a rally in a 16,000 seat venue and only 8 thousand showed up you know what the press would say?

"Large enthusiastic crowd greets Harris!!!"

that my friend is a real paper tiger.
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You mentioned ALL of that, TWK.

Like Trump, you're obsessed with, er, crowd sizes. The liberal writer writing in the liberal press somehow found its way to conservative you.

And obviously you didn't read what I wrote on the topic of your post.
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You mentioned ALL of that, TWK.

Like Trump, you're obsessed with, er, crowd sizes. The liberal writer writing in the liberal press somehow found its way to conservative you.

And obviously you didn't read what I wrote on the topic of your post.

no, i'm not. i'm not obsessed with Trump or his crowds.

only Trump and the media is.

including USA Today. they wrote it. i just posted it.

found it's way? it was on Yahoo's main page. for all to see. and i did.



it shows the one thing the Democrats and the bulk of the media are terrified of .. Trump is packing them in. everywhere he goes.
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