NBC: Could Dems face a civil war over abortion?

[dilbert firestorm]

https://hotair.com/archives/2019/06/...-war-abortion/

Is there any room left within the Democratic Party for pro-life voters?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...party-n1012766

much of the south is anti-abortion.

LA has John Bel Edwards, anti-abortion dem govenor. he's up for re-election in 2020.

[the_real_Barleycorn]

Some people are casually pro-life (I don't believe in abortion but I'm not going tell someone how to live their life.), staunchly pro-life (abortion is infanticide and we to restrict it legally.), and rabid pro-life (anyone involved in abortion is in some way guilty of murder and should be stopped by any means necessary.). They Hyde amendment has given us the illusion that our money is not being spent on killing babies and racism. Money is fungible. Take away the Hyde amendment and the shit hits the fan. It will be obvious that taxpayer is going to the murder institutions that are carrying out the Nazi ideals.

[WTF]

I vote ya have to pass a test and a fat bank account to have a kid....until , your tubes stay tied.

That'd solve all kinds of problems on both the right and left.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

https://hotair.com/archives/2019/06/...-war-abortion/

Is there any room left within the Democratic Party for pro-life voters?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...party-n1012766

much of the south is anti-abortion.

LA has John Bel Edwards, anti-abortion dem govenor. he's up for re-election in 2020.

Let's remember that there are only a handful of states that are up for grabs in 2020 in the presidential election -- Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Iowa, and Arizona for certain. Maybe Minnesota, Nevada, and Florida. Doubtful abortion rights are of major consequence to voters in these states.

[Joey_Gleet]

Abortion should be legal until the kid moves out on their own.
The Dems won't allow it because it would kill off too much of their snowflake voter base that is still living in Mom's basement.

[FriscoKiddo]

Democrats will not self-immolate over any issue when it comes to a head-to-head election between a Democrat and Republican....they will fight and spit and tear at each other until they get their nominee....then they will get in a perfect file formation and march well disciplined behind their leader. The only way to deter a liberal from voting for the Democrat nominee is to give them a third option like a Green Party, or Democrat Socialist Party....then they will steal from the Democrat...and cause liberal immolation then. Liberals saw it with Ralph Nader....and Conservatives saw it with Ross Perot.

[bb1961]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Let's remember that there are only a handful of states that are up for grabs in 2020 in the presidential election -- Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Iowa, and Arizona for certain. Maybe Minnesota, Nevada, and Florida. Doubtful abortion rights are of major consequence to voters in these states.

Yeah SPEED MAJOR CONSEQUENCE to voters @ 30%....a Commie News Network pole...you should like that pole...you do like poles...
Murdering the most innocent among us is a litmus test for being in the Democrap party.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/06/polit...ing/index.html

https://time.com/4424971/democrats-extreme-abortion/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.dde4a55bec7e

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...party-n1012766

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by bb1961

Yeah SPEED MAJOR CONSEQUENCE to voters @ 30%....a Commie News Network pole...you should like that pole...you do like poles...
Murdering the most innocent among us is a litmus test for being in the Democrap party.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/06/polit...ing/index.html

https://time.com/4424971/democrats-extreme-abortion/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.dde4a55bec7e

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...party-n1012766

I do like poles. People from Poland are fantastic individuals. Oh, you mean "polls".

You do realize that the Supreme Court vote on Roe v. Wade was 7-2. One of the dissenters was Byron White who was appointed by Kennedy so I assume he was on the liberal side. William Rehnquist, a Conservative leaning judge, was the other dissenter.

30% is not a very high number when compared to the other issues important to voters:

Health care 80%
The economy 78%
Immigration 78%
Treatment of women 74%

https://news.gallup.com/poll/244367/...migration.aspx

[Austin Ellen]

Well, here's the thing. There are alot of people who say that abortion is not high on their voting list but - in reality - it is. They just are not saying it out loud.
Catholics - that's a big voting bloc - no matter what state your talking about.
This is what I was trying to get at in the Austin forum.

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I do like poles. People from Poland are fantastic individuals. Oh, you mean "polls".

You do realize that the Supreme Court vote on Roe v. Wade was 7-2. One of the dissenters was Byron White who was appointed by Kennedy so I assume he was on the liberal side. William Rehnquist, a Conservative leaning judge, was the other dissenter.

30% is not a very high number when compared to the other issues important to voters:

Health care 80%
The economy 78%
Immigration 78%
Treatment of women 74%

https://news.gallup.com/poll/244367/...migration.aspx

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

Well, here's the thing. There are alot of people who say that abortion is not high on their voting list but - in reality - it is. They just are not saying it out loud.
Catholics - that's a big voting bloc - no matter what state your talking about.
This is what I was trying to get at in the Austin forum.

If you think abortion is more important than the economy....you haven't been paying attention to election results.

But pro life presidents have to throw the lifers a bone. That is how we got Sara Huck.

Plus if you take away abortion, there will be a wave of voters to overturn that.

The GOP got killed by women in the midterm.

[FriscoKiddo]

I don't think RvW will ever be overturned. Worse case scenario for Pro-Choicers is maybe decisions made at state levels (Which the Constitution originally meant for more day-to-day lifestyle decisions to be made anyway)

[WTF]

Originally Posted by FriscoKiddo

I don't think RvW will ever be overturned. Worse case scenario for Pro-Choicers is maybe decisions made at state levels (Which the Constitution originally meant for more day-to-day lifestyle decisions to be made anyway)

I thought the framers wanted more individual choice...you know , life , liberty and the pursuit of happiness or wtf ever that diddy's is.

It is slowly getting overturned with these ominous regulations....I thought Trump and the GOP was for less regulations?!

[FriscoKiddo]

Originally Posted by WTF

I thought the framers wanted more individual choice...you know , life , liberty and the pursuit of happiness or wtf ever that diddy's is.

You are right...they did...they thought that would be better achieved closer to the people it actually affects (state and local level) rather than a thousand miles away in the marbled halls of Washington DC.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by FriscoKiddo

You are right...they did...they thought that would be better achieved closer to the people it actually affects (state and local level) rather than a thousand miles away in the marbled halls of Washington DC.

Yet the God damn states want to give very little power to local government and local government wants to give even less to individuals... so it seems the Federal government in this instance is keeping states from taking away what should be individual choice.

Think about that...

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

Well, here's the thing. There are alot of people who say that abortion is not high on their voting list but - in reality - it is. They just are not saying it out loud.
Catholics - that's a big voting bloc - no matter what state your talking about.
This is what I was trying to get at in the Austin forum.

Can you back up what you are saying? Got anything at all to support your statement that abortion is more of an issue than it seems to be? I understand what you are trying to get at but there is no proof that what you are saying is true.