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Old 12-24-2020, 09:59 AM   #1
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Default New Study Shows Mask Mandates Had Zero Effect in Florida or Nationwide

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New Study Shows Mask Mandates Had Zero Effect in Florida or Nationwide, But the Lie Continues

Scott Morefield | Posted: Dec 21, 2020 12:01 AM

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Obviously, no amount of evidence, data, trends, facts, studies, or science will ever convince most ‘public health officials’ that masks aren’t doing squat to stop the spread of COVID-19. Cases and deaths continue to spike (yes, many of these are super-sensitive PCR test-driven numbers, but still) despite the fact that well over 90% of the country are complying with their absurd mandates. Yet, predictably, the virus keeps going right on virusing, as highly contagious respiratory viruses, unfortunately, tend to do, especially once cold weather hits.

Nevertheless, those of us who are mask skeptics have a difficult chore in front of us. Given that most of the country is under a mask mandate of some form or another, we can point to spikes all day AFTER these mandates were put in place only to have our opponents simply say, “Look how bad it would have been WITHOUT masks!”

It’s a tough argument to counter given the fact that our overlords have sold masking as a low-cost, easy “solution” that’s totally worth it even if they “save one life,” or something (nevermind the health risks - let’s censor docs who talk about those!). So, how DO we prove that things wouldn’t have been worse without masks? One way is to look at data from the few free states remaining.

In Florida, for example, most counties have so far bravely refused to implement mask mandates while others, usually in high population centers, have done so. Justin Hart and the team at Rational Ground (follow them on Twitter here - it’s worth it) just released a comprehensive data analysis of masked vs non-masked counties in the state. A total of 22 of 67 counties in the state have implemented a mask order at some point during the period of May 1 through December 15. It may not sound like many, but these include almost all of Florida’s largest metro areas. To be more than fair, if an area added a mask order at some point during the outbreak, the study’s authors gave a 14 day period to allow time for cases to begin subsiding. “Cases were summed for both mandate and non-mandate jurisdictions and adjusted per 100,000 people for days the mandates were or were not in effect,” wrote the authors, describing the methodology used.

If masks did even close to as advertised, one would expect to see the counties that went maskless to be absolute dumpster fires next to the counties that implemented mandates, right? At the very least, the numbers should favor the masked areas by more than a percentage point or two. So, how did it go? Yep, it was the Mask Cult’s worse nightmare:

“When counties DID have a mandate in effect, there were 667,239 cases over 3,137 days with an average of 23 cases per 100,000 per day. When counties DID NOT have a countywide order, there were 438,687 cases over 12,139 days with an average of 22 cases per 100,000 per day.”

In other words, counties with mask-mandates in place actually did WORSE than those that refused to implement them. (Yeah, color me shocked.) The authors even accounted for population density in their analysis, suggesting that it didn’t have an impact on the numbers because four of the 12 most populous counties in Florida never had a countywide order. “When the eight DID have an order in effect, there were 64 cases per 1,000. In periods 11 of 12 DID NOT have one, there were 40,” they wrote.

“But that’s just Florida,” you say. “They’re weirdos anyway. Surely masks have worked in the rest of the country.” Well, I’m glad you asked! The good folks at Rational Ground went on to compare national numbers, pitting the states that resisted the urge to impose a statewide mask mandate against those that masked up. How did those compare?

“When states DID have a mandate in effect, there were 9,605,256 cases over 5,907 total days and averaged 27 cases per 100,000 per day. When states DID NOT have a statewide order there were 5,781,716 cases over 5,772 total days averaging 17 cases per 100,000 people per day.”

So there you have it, incontrovertible data evidence that mask mandates do little to nothing to stop or even slightly curb the spread of COVID-19. If masks were the answer, wouldn’t you expect to see a drop in cases not long after mask mandates are implemented? At the very least, wouldn’t you expect to see cases level off and STAY leveled off? What you would NOT expect would be what has actually happened, for cases to spike as they have done since November seemingly all across the country, regardless of whether or not a mandatory masking policy was in place.

Further, wouldn’t you also expect states and areas that MASKED HARRDERRR than anyone else, states like California that have the ‘bold leadership’ to insist the plebes under their control mask up outside on hiking trails and sitting alone in parks, to have the lowest case counts of all? Just look at the latest per capita numbers there compared to Florida and tell me with a straight face that mask mandates ‘work.’ As Dave Rubin adeptly pointed out earlier this month, Florida’s numbers “should be ten times higher” than California’s. I mean, nobody is asking for masks to work perfectly, but hell, shouldn’t we expect SOME performance?

Numbers and data like this get down to the brass tacks. We can pit our doctors, scientists, and epidemiologists against their doctors, scientists, and epidemiologists on the actual science behind whether forcing people to put a moist, bacteria & virus-laden piece of cloth over the holes through which they breathe actually works to contain a virus that’s infinitesimally smaller than its threads (and yes, there are plenty of doctors, scientists, and epidemiologists on Team Reality too, and a bunch of them are on this must-follow Twitter list!), but if mask-mandates aren’t actually WORKING to curb the spread, why do we have them in place?

It’s complete and utter nonsense, of course. You know it, I know it, and the powers-that-be likely know it too. So why do they insist on continuing the charade? Whatever it is, it has NOTHING to do with either public health or real science.

Follow Scott on Twitter @SKMorefield, Parler @smorefield, and Facebook. Also, be sure to follow Scott’s COVID ‘Team Reality’ Twitter list, 165 (and counting) doctors, medical professionals, analysts, data hounds, media, and politicians unafraid to tell the truth about COVID-19.
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Old 12-24-2020, 10:04 AM   #2
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https://rationalground.com/post-than...at-masks-work/

Post-Thanksgiving mask charts: Still no evidence that masks work

CHARTS BY IAN MILLER (@ianmSC)


















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Yea....without enforcement...they are useless.

Be like lowering the speed limit in a school zone and not enforcing it.

Brilliant article dilbert...if you're in to distortions
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Yea....without enforcement...they are useless.

Be like lowering the speed limit in a school zone and not enforcing it.

Brilliant article dilbert...if you're in to distortions
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Take off your mask DF. Unplug the virus!

Don’t stop deceiving.
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Have you been to New Zealand? Seems they worked there.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-54260925


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Have you been to New Zealand? Seems they worked there.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-54260925


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Have you been to New Zealand? Seems they worked there.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-54260925
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europe is doing real well with mask mandates.

new zealand is a small country and an island. they have alot of control who comes and goes into that country.

what works for one is not going to work for others.

interesting news out of africa, Nigeria, population of 19 million has only 1200 deaths.
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Have you been to New Zealand? Seems they worked there.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-54260925


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Theyre an island and didnt allow travel into Country!

apples and bananas
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Theyre an island and didnt allow travel into Country!

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But Trump restricted flights locked us down, remember?

What about Thailand?

Hong Kong?

China?

You are not understanding....if you have a mask mandate but no enforcement and your country does not wear the fucking masks....you are ignorant AF saying masks mandates do not work.

People not wearing masks during masks mandates because there is no enforcement means you are actually distorting facts by saying they do not work.

Have you seen the college football games? The stands aren't full but people are not wearing masks. Trump rallies? You see many masks?

STFU about this ignorant shit about masks not working.

If you think the overwhelming majority of people are getting pregnant because they are wearing condoms....then you obviously believe masks don't work.
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thailand. 80% do nasal irrigation.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/hea...ys/ar-BB14aOJi
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WTF - thank you for revealing the real DPST raison d' existence.
One fallacy of the above argument - Wuhan virus is smaller than the mask interstices - but Viral particles are carried in respiratory droplets - whose diameter is usually larger than mask interstices. And - masks are not perfect - they do allow air escape - and possible droplet escape - around the mask edges - even when worn correctly.



It is not about masks, the political polarization about masks, public health, or any such nonsense to DPST's!
It is about ENFORCEMENT - and the Control of the population with a mailed fist that is clearly "Do as I (DPST politicians in POWER) tell you to do, not as I do"!!!!


If DPST's win both Senate seats in Georgia - representative democracy in America is doomed - and all the DPST's will rejoice in their Authority and Control!


So - when people violate the DPST mask mandate - WTF - your enforcement will be to throw people in prison - where confinement makes infection with Wuhan Virus almost unavoidable. The death rate in prison is comparable to that of nursing homes with Wuhan virus.

So - Don't wear a mask - we (DPST's in authority and Control)will sentence you to a quite possible Death Sentence.

That is DPST Enforcement.

Thank you- WTf and the DPST party.

WTF - don't forget your mask when you go outside - or when DPST's Rule that all people must wear them 24/7/365 - there will be no excuses and no escape from DPST Big Brother and ENFORCEMENT!!!! unless you are a DPST politician in authority and Control ( see Gov Newsome, Inslee, and Brown as models of DPST "Do what i tell you to do, not what I do" behavior)
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Masks are fucking stupid, because you have dingalings packing into grocery stores or packing into the street with thousands of people, and they think, I'm wearing a mask so everything is fine. Fucking dildos.
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But Trump restricted flights locked us down, remember?

What about Thailand?

Hong Kong?

China?

You are not understanding....if you have a mask mandate but no enforcement and your country does not wear the fucking masks....you are ignorant AF saying masks mandates do not work.

People not wearing masks during masks mandates because there is no enforcement means you are actually distorting facts by saying they do not work.

Have you seen the college football games? The stands aren't full but people are not wearing masks. Trump rallies? You see many masks?

STFU about this ignorant shit about masks not working.

If you think the overwhelming majority of people are getting pregnant because they are wearing condoms....then you obviously believe masks don't work.

wtf - the condom comparison is invalid - an unworkable allegory. Viral infection of humans and pregnancy are hardly acquired in dientical, or even similar ways.

Please see a basic book on biology and immunology.



And - Quote wtf -"STFU about this ignorant shit about masks not working." - Please be civil and respectful- Thank You - wtf.
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