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Old 05-22-2025, 03:18 PM   #1
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Would anyone care to defend some of the more egregious demands and actions directed by the Trump Administration towards Harvard? Some are in the April 11, 2025 letter from the Department of Education, DHHS and GSA:

https://www.harvard.edu/research-fun...2025-04-11.pdf

Here's my favorite part from that:

Harvard must implement a comprehensive mask ban with serious and immediate penalties for violation, not less than suspension.

WTF? What kind of nut cases are running our federal government?

Or how about Kristi Noem's letter today, that "means Harvard can no longer enroll foreign students, and existing foreign students must transfer or lose their legal status."

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/22/u...-students.html

Then there are the hundreds of millions in grants by the National Science Foundation and other governmental organizations to Harvard that have been cut. While I'm all for lower federal spending and more efficiency, we're undoubtedly throwing more than a few babies out with the bath water.

Attacking your most eminent universities and scientists is definitely not the way to Make America Great Again.
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Old 05-22-2025, 03:26 PM   #2
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Stop calling him a Fascist.
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Old 05-22-2025, 03:33 PM   #3
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Trump Continues War on Harvard and Antisemitism, DHS Secretary Noem Hits 'Em Where It Hurts

Donald Trump has taken a battering ram to Ivy League Harvard University over its tolerance of rampant antisemitism on its campus since the Oct. 7 Hamas slaughter in Israel. The president has yanked millions in funding and warned them of more consequences if they do not protect their Jewish students and clamp down on the hate.

Unfortunately—for Harvard at least—they didn’t listen, and now some of those consequences are here courtesy of the Department of Homeland Security and its secretary, Kristi Noem:

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is eliminating the student visa program at Harvard University due to "pro-terrorist conduct" at campus protests, Fox News Digital has learned.

It's a severe consequence for what DHS claims is Harvard's refusal to comply with its requests for behavioral records of student visa holders.

It's about accountability, Noem declared:

"This administration is holding Harvard accountable for fostering violence, antisemitism, and coordinating with the Chinese Communist Party on its campus," said Secretary Kristi Noem. "It is a privilege, not a right, for universities to enroll foreign students and benefit from their higher tuition payments to help pad their multibillion-dollar endowments. Harvard had plenty of opportunity to do the right thing. It refused. They have lost their Student and Exchange Visitor Program certification as a result of their failure to adhere to the law. Let this serve as a warning to all universities and academic institutions across the country."

Noem has been requesting records regarding visa-holding students so they can see if any of them are troublemakers and inciting hate and violence. Harvard has mostly been stonewalling her efforts.

Unless this conflict gets resolved quickly, Harvard can no longer enroll foreign students for the 2025-2026 school year. Existing foreign students, meanwhile, must transfer or they’ll have their legal status to reside in the U.S. revoked.

Noem:

"As a result of your brazen refusal to comply with multiple requests to provide the Department of Homeland Security pertinent information while perpetuating an unsafe campus environment that is hostile to Jewish students, promotes pro-Hamas rhetoric, and employs racist ‘diversity, equity, and inclusion’ policies, you have lost this privilege," Noem wrote in a letter to Maureen Martin, the university’s director of immigration services.

Clearly, she’s not messing around, and she gave them 72 hours to respond if they don’t want this punishment to go forward.


Many “elite” academic institutions in our nation have acted disgracefully as they allowed tent cities filled with violent protesters and "intifadah!"-yelling zealots to intimidate Jewish students and foster a sense of fear. Trump, as he should, is bringing consequences. They can make changes, or they can keep getting figuratively smacked over the head.
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"This administration is holding Harvard accountable for fostering violence, antisemitism, and coordinating with the Chinese Communist Party on its campus," (Kristi Noem)
That sounds like complete bull shit to me. What violence? About 20% of Harvard's students are Jewish. And would you rather have China's best and brightest in labs in Cambridge, Massachusetts, contributing to American excellence? Or Beijing?

That bitch needs to go back to South Dakota and pursue what she was put here on this earth for, dog killing. She has no business heading the Department of Homeland Security.
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Old 05-22-2025, 06:31 PM   #5
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It should be against the law that some South Dakota retard who graduated from Butt Fuck State at 40 years old is even allowed to pen a letter to Harvard. Regardless, this bullshit will have the usual success that Trump has when his petty grievances are taken to court. I heard Harvard knows where to find some smart lawyers.

Meanwhile, tonight Trump is hosting a dinner for a bunch of rich foreigners who wasted money on his crypto. I hope all of their kids go to Harvard. Haha
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Old 05-22-2025, 06:58 PM   #6
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Harvard has turned into a cess pool of anti-American propaganda.
As for excellence. We all got to witness their so called excellence when Harvard President Claudine Gay gave testimony before Congress.
She exemplified the notion of an educated idiot.

Joe Biden could have done a better job.
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Old 05-22-2025, 07:05 PM   #7
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For those whining about these actions, I will quote my favorite Maoist.

"Elections have consequences, bitches." ~Barak Hussein Obama.
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Old 05-22-2025, 10:53 PM   #8
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Harvard has turned into a cess pool of anti-American propaganda.
As for excellence. We all got to witness their so called excellence when Harvard President Claudine Gay gave testimony before Congress.
She exemplified the notion of an educated idiot.

Joe Biden could have done a better job.
Really changed since you were there, eh?
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Old 05-23-2025, 04:32 AM   #9
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Really changed since you were there, eh?
I received a degree at an institute of higher learning that was quite different from your standard Ivey League University……..

It started with an invitation from The Selective Service.
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Old 05-23-2025, 05:12 AM   #10
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I received a degree at an institute of higher learning that was quite different from your standard Ivey League University……..

It started with an invitation from The Selective Service.
Funny you bothered to even answer his facetious question when you can't even spell "Ivey" correctly in its context. Or maybe you were thinking about this "Ivey" in Canada, our 51st state. https://www.ivey.uwo.ca/

Anyway, you MAGAs can believe the silly shit you hear from your comedy MAGA TV and radio bullshit, but the fact of the matter is that your master is just acting pissy because Harvard did not kiss the ring and do everything he wanted. Now, your maser is just going to look like an even bigger fool when Harvard wipes the floor with his stupid vindictive ass in court. Or they'll just simply wait him out until the MAGA lunacy is over and done with being an annoying and ugly pimple on America's ass.
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Food for thought, these colleges do cultivate terrorists on ocassion. Some of the jihad boys that flew planes into the towers were her on student visas.
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And student visas a-bound for the joeys at university, Harvard and
what-not who are terrorising Jewish students on campus.

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It seems LM is exhibiting a degree of frustration by lashing out with that elitist attitude that has got the Harvard Crowd in the fix they are in.
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Old 05-23-2025, 07:26 AM   #14
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Spoken like a true believer in independent thought and the quest for knowledge.

They’re looking to dumb down your “Alma mater” too, Jacky.

PS - I attended Selective Service U, too, but realized even back then that without the college education I was never going to amount to much more than a war casualty.

Know anybody like that in your “class?”

Harvard refuses to bow down. Unlike you.

SMFH
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Food for thought, these colleges do cultivate terrorists on ocassion. Some of the jihad boys that flew planes into the towers were her on student visas.
At Harvard?

Maybe we should ban all colleges, eh?
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