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Old 06-27-2025, 03:51 PM   #1
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Default Thank you secretary of defense Hegseth

Common sense and decency prevails. What a great way to end 'pride' month.


He changed the name of a ship from a fucking pillowbiter to the name of a medal of honor winner.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/heg...onor-recipient
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Old 06-27-2025, 04:02 PM   #2
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He said something like "now we are removing politics from the naming of Navy ships"

(not an exact quote)

Whatta fucking joke.

This is nothing but politics.

Well...I suppose what it REALLY is...is playing to his fucking boss and his made-up culture war horseshit....

But it is still political. In the very worst sense.

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Old 06-27-2025, 04:45 PM   #3
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He said something like "now we are removing politics from the naming of Navy ships"

(not an exact quote)

Whatta fucking joke.

This is nothing but politics.

Well...I suppose what it REALLY is...is playing to his fucking boss and his made-up culture war horseshit....

But it is still political. In the very worst sense.

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He’s not making anything up. I’m convinced he’s a warrior and doesn’t want a fags name on a warship.
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Old 06-27-2025, 05:08 PM   #4
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He’s not making anything up. I’m convinced he’s a warrior and doesn’t want a fags name on a warship.

Him and probably 72 million Trump supporters.
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Old 06-27-2025, 08:42 PM   #5
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You fellas is hysterical!

The enemy!

Hahahahahahsgshshshshsshagagsa zh!!
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Old 06-27-2025, 08:43 PM   #6
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Him and probably 72 million Trump supporters.
Even the gay ones???

Hahahahahahahahahaa
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Old 06-27-2025, 09:07 PM   #7
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What a huge blessing! Thank you drunk inept Hegs! With all of the shit going on in this country, thank goodness a name of a fucking ship had its name changed to make some (not all) of the miserable hateful MAGA simpletons happy by throwing them a hollow bone to feed their bigotry.
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Have to agree with dear John on this one
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What a huge blessing! Thank you drunk inept Hegs! With all of the shit going on in this country, thank goodness a name of a fucking ship had its name changed to make some (not all) of the miserable hateful MAGA simpletons happy by throwing them a bone to feed their bigotry.
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He said something like "now we are removing politics from the naming of Navy ships"

(not an exact quote)

Whatta fucking joke.

This is nothing but politics.

Well...I suppose what it REALLY is...is playing to his fucking boss and his made-up culture war horseshit....

But it is still political. In the very worst sense.

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it was political to name a ship after Milk to begin with. in the Navy he was a diving instructor with a rather average career. being forced out of the Navy for being openly gay was his fault. he knew if was against the regs at the time. if he wanted to stay in the Navy he should have stayed in the closet.



Dan White didn't kill Milk over his being gay. he meant to kill mayor Moscone for changing his mind about re-appointing White after he resigned. White did clash with Milk but Milk was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. White had already shot Moscone when he encountered Milk.



Milk did nothing worthy of having a Navy ship named after him. maybe a tugboat in San Fran harbor but not a Navy vessel even a non-combat supply ship.
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Old 06-27-2025, 10:00 PM   #10
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According to this website roughly 6% of the military are lgbt. Or about 71000 individuals. Wikipedia shows that 9.3% of adult Americans identified as LGBTQ+ or about 32 million people.

Do you really think it’s a good idea to disparage such a large percentage of our population?

https://theoutline.com/post/5680/us-...opulation-size
AUG—02—2018 01:31PM EST
In a health survey released this week by the RAND Corporation, 6.1 percent of people in the U.S. military self-identified as LGBT . It’s the first ever direct estimate of the military’s LGBT population, even though LGB people, at least, have been allowed to serve openly for seven whole years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_..._United_States
The demographics of sexual orientation and gender identity in the United States have been studied in the social sciences in recent decades. A 2025 Gallup poll concluded that 9.3% of adult Americans identified as LGBTQ+.
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According to this website roughly 6% of the military are lgbt. Or about 71000 individuals. Wikipedia shows that 9.3% of adult Americans identified as LGBTQ+ or about 32 million people.

Do you really think it’s a good idea to disparage such a large percentage of our population?

https://theoutline.com/post/5680/us-...opulation-size
AUG—02—2018 01:31PM EST
In a health survey released this week by the RAND Corporation, 6.1 percent of people in the U.S. military self-identified as LGBT . It’s the first ever direct estimate of the military’s LGBT population, even though LGB people, at least, have been allowed to serve openly for seven whole years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_..._United_States
The demographics of sexual orientation and gender identity in the United States have been studied in the social sciences in recent decades. A 2025 Gallup poll concluded that 9.3% of adult Americans identified as LGBTQ+.



Milk's assassination had nothing to do with him being gay. a fake martyr for the LGBT community. if the person they are renaming this vessel for, Oscar Peterson, a Medal of Honor winner, happened to be gay i'd have no problem at all with it. to name a ship for someone just because they were gay is nonsense woke dei.



https://www.cmohs.org/recipients/oscar-v-peterson


For extraordinary courage and conspicuous heroism above and beyond the call of duty while in charge of a repair party during an attack on the U.S.S. Neosho by enemy Japanese aerial forces on 7 May 1942. Lacking assistance because of injuries to the other members of his repair party and severely wounded himself, Peterson, with no concern for his own life, closed the bulkhead stop valves and in so doing received additional burns which resulted in his death. His spirit of self-sacrifice and loyalty, characteristic of a fine seaman, was in keeping with the highest traditions of the U.S. Naval Service. He gallantly gave his life in the service of his country.


this gets you the Medal of Honor and a ship named for you. just being gay does not.
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Old 06-27-2025, 10:51 PM   #12
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Thanks for the stats, txdot. There are over 280 ships in the navy https://www.navy.com/vessels. That one ship represents 0.36% out of 280. Assuming txdot's stats are correct and 6.1% of the military identifies as LGBT, I believe a boat named after some well-known gay midshipman I've never heard of should be left as is solely due to that 6.1%. But whatever, it's not like I am going to lose any sleep over it either way.

Edit: It will be funny if the ship's name is changed back when the Trump MAGA reality shit show is officially cancelled for good in 2028.
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Thanks for the stats, txdot. There are over 280 ships in the navy https://www.navy.com/vessels. That one ship represents 0.36% out of 280. Assuming txdot's stats are correct and 6.1% of the military identifies as LGBT, I believe a boat named after some well-known gay midshipman I've never heard of should be left as is solely due to that 6.1%. But whatever, it's not like I am going to lose any sleep over it either way.



so by this logic and the vestments of DEI 6 percent of Navy ships should be named for random gay people.


brilliant!
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Old 06-27-2025, 11:17 PM   #14
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This isn’t just about Harvey Milk. The fact is that they are going to be renaming other vessels named after other civil rights leaders. What it comes down to is the fact that they think it’s ok to disrespect large swaths of the public because they think that they are not worthy of respect.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/navy-ne...ights-leaders/

The documents obtained by CBS News also show other vessels named after prominent leaders are also on the Navy's renaming "recommended list."

Among them are the USNS Thurgood Marshall, USNS Ruth Bader Ginsburg, USNS Harriet Tubman, USNS Dolores Huerta, USNS Lucy Stone, USNS Cesar Chavez and USNS Medgar Evers.

CBS News found that a December 2024 web article from Naval Sea Systems Command about the laying of the keel for the future USNS Thurgood Marshall has been deleted.

P.S. From some of the homophobic comments in this thread I can say for certain that it is about his being gay.
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This isn’t just about Harvey Milk. The fact is that they are going to be renaming other vessels named after other civil rights leaders. What it comes down to is the fact that they think it’s ok to disrespect large swaths of the public because they think that they are not worthy of respect.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/navy-ne...ights-leaders/

The documents obtained by CBS News also show other vessels named after prominent leaders are also on the Navy's renaming "recommended list."

Among them are the USNS Thurgood Marshall, USNS Ruth Bader Ginsburg, USNS Harriet Tubman, USNS Dolores Huerta, USNS Lucy Stone, USNS Cesar Chavez and USNS Medgar Evers.

CBS News found that a December 2024 web article from Naval Sea Systems Command about the laying of the keel for the future USNS Thurgood Marshall has been deleted.

P.S. From some of the homophobic comments in this thread I can say for certain that it is about his being gay.



it's all about Milk being gay and nothing else. he wasn't even murdered for being gay. it's simply about naming a ship for someone who was gay without any other reason.
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