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10-24-2025, 11:05 AM
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Trump failing policies
Trump campaigned on promising lower prices starting immediately, and stopping the Ukraine conflict within 24 hours on being elected. We all know how he is doing with Ukraine and Russia. For a check on prices:
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10-24-2025, 11:07 AM
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10-24-2025, 11:07 AM
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10-24-2025, 11:08 AM
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10-24-2025, 11:08 AM
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10-24-2025, 10:13 PM
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Salty, can you tell us where you shop since you have consistently stated that you pay cheaper than what is posted by economic indicators.
Better still, a link to their online store so we can have goods delivered. That would be a service many of us on the skinny end of a penny would appreciate.
Otherwise, BIG LIE on lowering prices. What was it, 3% rise in inflation just reported?
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10-25-2025, 06:32 AM
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1st rule of hole digging: When you find yourself in a deep hole - quit digging!
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...BIG LIE on lowering prices. What was it, 3% rise in inflation just reported?
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That 3% is a projected year value. BTW: it was below the forecasted 3.1%.
So Where's the Beef?!?
Why is output at a 75 year low?
You think that happened in just the past few months, by chance?
Turns out they are diligently working the problems caused by the previous regime's climate gloom-n-doomers.
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USDA Launches Plan to Boost Cattle Producers, Cut Red Tape
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By Michael Katz | Friday, 24 October 2025
The Department of Agriculture has announced a sweeping plan Wednesday to fortify the nation's cattle industry.
The plan was spurred by ranchers' concerns over the Trump administration's proposal to expand beef imports from Argentina to bring consumer prices down.
The goals, detailed in a 13-page white paper, cover three core priorities:
1. Protecting and improving ranching through expanded grazing access, disaster aid, and affordable risk tools for new and veteran producers.
2. Expanding processing and consumer transparency, including new "Product of USA" labeling rules that take effect Jan. 1.
3. Building demand alongside domestic supply by increasing access to locally raised beef in schools and ensuring that the 2025–2030 Dietary Guidelines emphasize protein and whole foods.
The USDA said the national cattle herd is at a 75-year low, while consumer demand for beef has grown 9% over the past decade.
Because it takes time to rebuild herds, the department said it is investing to stabilize markets for ranchers over the long term and to make beef more affordable.
"America's food supply chain is a national security priority for the Trump administration," Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins said in a news release. "We are committed to ensuring the American people have an affordable source of protein and that America's ranchers have a strong economic environment where they can continue to operate for generations to come."
Rollins said the USDA will "expedite deregulatory reforms, boost processing capacity — including getting more locally raised beef into schools — and work across the government to fix longstanding common-sense barriers for ranchers like outdated grazing restrictions."
The plan calls for the Agriculture and Interior departments to "streamline and expand" ranchers' abilities to graze on federal lands.
It will prioritize grazing on an estimated 24 million acres of vacant allotments across the country.
The Bureau of Land Management and U.S. Forest Service will coordinate with the USDA to streamline permitting and prioritize grazing as a form of wildlife management.
The plan also proposes new evidence standards allowing ranchers to be compensated for livestock lost to predators such as coyotes and bears.
Under the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, the Farm Service Agency's indemnity programs can provide up to 100% of market value for livestock lost to predators.
The USDA will offer up to $2 million in grants and $25 million in guaranteed loans to small meat processors, while reducing inspection fees and promoting new grading technology.
The plan also removes environmental regulations, saving processors up to $7.8 billion in compliance costs.
Small Business Administration Administrator Kelly Loeffler said her agency will be "cutting burdensome regulations and supplying government-guaranteed loans to support our producers as they work to strengthen the American beef supply."
Craig Uden, president-elect of Nebraska Cattlemen, told Nebraska Public Media that he welcomes the new financing and insurance opportunities for young producers.
He estimated the current average age of cattle ranchers in the state is over 60.
"You're going to see a lot of movement in the next 10 years to where you're going to need more and more of these young producers to step up and in over time," he said. "I don't want to call anybody risk-averse, because they're really not, it's just lack of access to capital or having enough insurance, some kind of a risk-management tool, to ensure that it doesn't take them down."..
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Yet again; why people voted for Trump - to fix the many train wrecks of the previous pResident of the White House. Too bad the government has been shutdown by Schmuk Shumer. There is work to be done.
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10-25-2025, 05:58 PM
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That 3% is a projected year value. BTW: it was below the forecasted 3.1%.
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Projected. Okay.
So, you admit that prices are rising since it is not in the negative.
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So Where's the Beef?!?
Why is output at a 75 year low?
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Thank you for bringing up "where's the beef". It is with the party of No. Why is it when the American Cattle Rancher has all indications of making a profit and this happens.
You are the one who stated you exercise your grey matter when it comes to news sources and don't get influenced by what others post. I can only think of one guy here, farmstud, who *possibly* has hands on expertise here, regardless of his dismal interpretations of things. But that goverment statement is full of malarky. Read it again and exercise on open mind. I really don't think you can because it is written by a maggie dictate. I do have experience with the link I supplied. Generations worth. And I ain't gonna waste time spoon feeding you about the market economics of such. Just know if you were really concerned with the people who work the land here, you'd have edged yourself off the maggie couch and more to the center of what forgotten conservative values were.
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10-26-2025, 06:36 AM
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Inanity ain't a good springboard or jumping off point...
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...So, you admit that prices are rising since it is not in the negative...
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A blistering +0.1 % projected increase at best. BTW: I take it you're not taking advantage of GasBuddy to keep an eye on prices. You should. It's below $2.50 locally, but still over $4.00 in Commifornia. Plus, Trump is shooting for $2.00 or below, but not in Commifornia.
Tell ya what imma do for you: Let us review CPI for the most recent 6 years. I'll even include the cooked books of 2024, where they tried to prop-up the Vegetable, now and forever to be known as pResident AutoPen, but ultimately ended up being a failed, weak and vain attempt to benefit "The Appointed One", aka The Kackler.
2025: 3.0% (projected)
2024: 2.9%
2023: 4.1%
2022: 8.0%
2021: 4.7%
2020: 1.2%
As you may recall, Trump left office January 2021 and returned in 2025.
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...Thank you for bringing up "where's the beef"...
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Ding-Nabbit. I spewed my coffee all over my screen and keyboard seeing a piece of faux outrage (on command) from NPR. I thought they were defunct already. Though I do know that the Demonicrats have shutdown the government to get them refunded.
You would be better off just sticking with: You know both Jack and Chite about Agribusiness. I would agree FS does, but so do I. First bubble needing popping: Agribusiness ain't done by the neo-classic hayseed chomping on a piece of straw, wearing a tattered straw hat.
Today a rancher can scan an ear tag on a critter and know how much they are worth at that moment, based on their costs to date and the current market price. By the way, that hay-seeder probably has a business degree these days and several live feeds for market prices, weather forecasts and commodity prices on multiple screens back at their office, powered by a server or two, i.e. super tech savvy operations.
I'll be the first to admit that I know substantially more about their command and control operations side of the equation, but less about the care and feeding of critters. But I'm pretty sure if they had a calf in the spring of this year, it probably is not being sold for a big beefy profit just yet.
Trump's solution of beef from the Argentine was a shot at a quick, patch fix, a bandaid, for the short term. As the article (thankfully NOT from NPR) points out, there is a lot that got broken under pResident AutoPen and even the O'Bama-nation regime, going back several years.
It is well past time to align the needs, technology and policies to feed Americans and sell whatever overage to the highest bidders.
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10-26-2025, 11:21 AM
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Guess it needs to be stated again:
Trump campaigned on lower grocery prices starting day 1. It's not happening.
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10-26-2025, 12:11 PM
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hmm, I paid $2.12 per gallon for gas today. I was paying $3.89 per gallon a year ago.
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10-26-2025, 04:58 PM
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10-27-2025, 05:31 AM
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Not sure what market you are in...

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His bio says Plano. It's just like Houston, only spelled differently and located a couple hours away.
Regardless, so's yer say'n that gas is not cheaper than a year ago by showing a couple of charts that says it is?
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10-27-2025, 05:41 AM
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EXTRA! EXTRA! Turkey prices dropping from the sky! Read all about it...
Talk about cheap turkeys.
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Walmart CEO: Turkey Prices Back To 2019 Level, Thanksgiving Dinner For Ten Down 25% From Last Year
By Tim Hains October 21, 2025
Walmart CEO John Furner said turkey prices are down to 2019 levels, telling ABC's George Stephanopoulos this morning that the price of a Thanksgiving dinner for ten will be "down 25% from last year."
"Our turkey prices are all the way back to what they were in 2019—97 cents per pound," he said...
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Let’s talk about Thanksgiving first. Food prices are up—especially turkey. What are you doing to help customers keep costs down?
JOHN FURNER, WALMART CEO: We’re really excited about what we have planned for this year’s Thanksgiving. I can’t believe it’s already that time of year, but this is a busy season, and people don’t want to sacrifice quality. We want to do all we can to help them celebrate the holiday any way they want—and to do it affordably, with a lot of value.
A couple of things to mention: the Thanksgiving basket. We started putting together this idea of having an entire basket that’s easy to purchase and easy to assemble back in 2022. This year, we’ll have the best prices on that basket since the program started. We’re down about 25% from last year—that’s about $14 lower—which brings the cost to just under $4 per person when serving ten people...
...STEPHANOPOULOS: How about President Trump’s tariffs? They’re contributing to higher costs across the board. I know you’re absorbing some of those costs, but how much will ultimately be passed on to consumers as they shop for holiday items?
FURNER: Well, George, as you know, we sell a really wide variety of products, and about two-thirds of what we sell is either made, grown, or assembled in the United States. Our merchants have done a nice job balancing things out...
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10-27-2025, 09:59 PM
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A blistering +0.1 % projected increase at best. ...
2025: 3.0% (projected)...
As you may recall, Trump left office January 2021 and returned in 2025.Ding-Nabbit. I spewed my coffee all over my screen and keyboard seeing a piece of faux outrage (on command) from NPR. I thought they were defunct already. Though I do know that the Demonicrats have shutdown the government to get them refunded.
You would be better off just sticking with: You know both Jack and Chite about Agribusiness. I would agree FS does, but so do I. First bubble needing popping: Agribusiness ain't done by the neo-classic hayseed chomping on a piece of straw, wearing a tattered straw hat.
Today a rancher can scan an ear tag on a critter and know how much they are worth at that moment, based on their costs to date and the current market price. By the way, that hay-seeder probably has a business degree these days and several live feeds for market prices, weather forecasts and commodity prices on multiple screens back at their office, powered by a server or two, i.e. super tech savvy operations.
I'll be the first to admit that I know substantially more about their command and control operations side of the equation, but less about the care and feeding of critters. But I'm pretty sure if they had a calf in the spring of this year, it probably is not being sold for a big beefy profit just yet.
Trump's solution of beef from the Argentine was a shot at a quick, patch fix, a bandaid, for the short term. As the article (thankfully NOT from NPR) points out, there is a lot that got broken under pResident AutoPen and even the O'Bama-nation regime, going back several years.
It is well past time to align the needs, technology and policies to feed Americans and sell whatever overage to the highest bidders.
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Just like VM said below, they ain't going down. Thanks for supplying the figures that the orange bloated one is failing one of many campaign promises. But as you maggies are, he can't do wrong. Even when he lies.
Ain't it funny National Palestinian Radio is running with a zero dollar input from the goverment teat? I see the people on the Hill are still drawing a check but ain't doing anything except covering their ass.
And I guess that faux outrage from the rancher in the story must have been a libby. Tell me, how come libby ranchers are crying and repub ones are doing so well? I know you can't because i'd lay odds that guy interviewed didn't vote blue.
But thank you for exposing your ignorance and isolation from common cow folks in this country. You have the mindset of agricultural mechanization that the little people don't have. The only cattle you see are those on styrofoam trays with cellophane, if that. Keep in your lane about how the majority of ranchers operate in this country because you just talk about the selling part (which if your really know that would understand why we have the number of cattle in this country currently.)
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Guess it needs to be stated again:
Trump campaigned on lower grocery prices starting day 1. It's not happening.
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Maggies got their fingers in ears, eyes scrunched shut, yelling NEENER NEENER!
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Talk about cheap turkeys.
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OH. Gonna deep fry a few this T-day!
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