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Old 04-07-2012, 08:28 PM   #1
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OK I don't agree with all this guy's reasoning but he does end up saying it costs a lot of guys c. $1515 to get laid via straight dates - 6 of those straight dates!

About the cost of a dinner date for a lot of ladies. Just saying... Enjoy -

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Old 04-07-2012, 10:37 PM   #2
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1515 for 6 civie date's gets you lots of Value Meals with Super Sized Fries and Drink at McD's, if I was on a civie date.
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Old 04-08-2012, 12:55 AM   #3
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6 dates to get a piece of patch?? After 2 and it doesn't happen I lose interest And move on. Average should be 2 dates. One if you know what your doing.
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Old 04-08-2012, 11:18 AM   #4
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1515 for 6 civie date's gets you lots of Value Meals with Super Sized Fries and Drink at McD's, if I was on a civie date.
Ha ha, what kind of woman would consider that a date?!

OK I know they're out there...
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Old 04-08-2012, 11:19 AM   #5
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6 dates to get a piece of patch?? After 2 and it doesn't happen I lose interest And move on. Average should be 2 dates. One if you know what your doing.
Interesting point. I heard that one is never supposed to put out before the third date in 'civie' dating.
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Old 04-08-2012, 02:27 PM   #6
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I don't see how you can make an assumption as to how many dates before you get laid but I've heard the same as Leah so it must be so. LOL
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I`d be surprised. Don`t know about americans dating schemes, might be true, s ince in the USA you still have such things as dating rules, so if you get laid at first date it does not mean anything serious and such.... so serious people avoid that....
... In europe we courtesans complain that nowadays the chicks get laid so easy , no one buys us anymore .. bwahahahaha.... (it`s a running joke.. that nowadays you get in a bar, buy some straight lady a beer and that is it......no decency anymore... Also , when it comes to dress-codes. The straight women are dressed like you`d assume street hookers to be dressed for success, and the escorts and hookers and whores are dressed like ladies... ;-))

aaaaah.... ;-)
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I`d be surprised. Don`t know about americans dating schemes, might be true, s ince in the USA you still have such things as dating rules, so if you get laid at first date it does not mean anything serious and such.... so serious people avoid that....
... In europe we courtesans complain that nowadays the chicks get laid so easy , no one buys us anymore .. bwahahahaha.... (it`s a running joke.. that nowadays you get in a bar, buy some straight lady a beer and that is it......no decency anymore... Also , when it comes to dress-codes. The straight women are dressed like you`d assume street hookers to be dressed for success, and the escorts and hookers and whores are dressed like ladies... ;-))

aaaaah.... ;-)
Which is good for us providers because the men know what to expect on some given level. And I think most men would agree no matter what country you come from that all men pay for sex in one FORM or another.
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I`d be surprised. Don`t know about americans dating schemes, might be true, s ince in the USA you still have such things as dating rules, so if you get laid at first date it does not mean anything serious and such.... so serious people avoid that....
... In europe we courtesans complain that nowadays the chicks get laid so easy , no one buys us anymore .. bwahahahaha.... (it`s a running joke.. that nowadays you get in a bar, buy some straight lady a beer and that is it......no decency anymore... Also , when it comes to dress-codes. The straight women are dressed like you`d assume street hookers to be dressed for success, and the escorts and hookers and whores are dressed like ladies... ;-))

aaaaah.... ;-)

You are so right!!! Particularly in Miami....


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Old 04-09-2012, 12:46 AM   #10
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Ha ha, what kind of woman would consider that a date?!

OK I know they're out there...
hah! Geez! Not any girl I'd want to be with. No class with some I guess. I always strive to impress on first dates with top class girls.

Olive Garden always gets me in them panties. Unlimited soup, salad, n' breadsticks at lunch time. Bitches love it.

s'ow I roll, son!
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You are so right!!! Particularly in Miami....


Yes I know..... Have been living there.....

This adds my next question: why do the ladies with the fattest legs or not really nice shaped legs always wear the shortest skirts ??


That is something I witnessed internationally. Short skirts = almost always strange legs or fat legs ;-)
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Which is good for us providers because the men know what to expect on some given level. And I think most men would agree no matter what country you come from that all men pay for sex in one FORM or another.
I absoutely agree. Marriage is a financial contract. Put love aside and that is what you get.

Which brings me to the next level: Also women pay for sex or relationships. It seems that relationships also "level" out the inequalities between people. And I see that happening not only on a male versus woman level. Which is also interestng in the discussion (for me) why escorts charge. One charges for secrecy and one charges to support a financial contract between others (and for that support you are entitled to get paid , too). And I see unpaid secret lovers of married guys as the poorest and most to be pitied fellows on the planet ;-). Because they have nothing, while others have it all .
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Six dates? Let me let you in on a little secret. The guy that spends 1500 bucks on 6 dates is not going to get laid. His wallet going to get f*cked out of his hard-earned cash. Never flash your cash! Girls are not looking for that sh*t. At least the girls that you're wanting to attract are not looking for that. And don't say that you're too fat to ugly to get her. That is the biggest copout I've ever heard. You do not need to use your money as a crutch. Why don't you use that 1500 for some self-improvement. Gym membership perhaps? You need to have confidence. Not cockiness! The cocky guy goes home with the $1500 girl. You don't want her. Haven't you ever been at a bar and saw this not so great looking guy with this beautiful f*cking knock out? The guy had confidence. He grew some balls and went up to her. I can go on and on about the dues and don'ts on dating. I'm not going to.
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I`d be surprised. Don`t know about americans dating schemes, might be true, s ince in the USA you still have such things as dating rules, so if you get laid at first date it does not mean anything serious and such.... so serious people avoid that....
... In europe we courtesans complain that nowadays the chicks get laid so easy , no one buys us anymore .. bwahahahaha.... (it`s a running joke.. that nowadays you get in a bar, buy some straight lady a beer and that is it......no decency anymore... Also , when it comes to dress-codes. The straight women are dressed like you`d assume street hookers to be dressed for success, and the escorts and hookers and whores are dressed like ladies... ;-))

aaaaah.... ;-)
That is so true. When I was in London, I noticed these girls were decked out in the tightest shortest dress that they could find. Seriously, these girls are constantly pulling their dresses down. Don't forget the 6 inch stilettos that they cannot walk in. And it is not because of Piccadilly Street is screwed up. It's because the girissue so drunk by the end of the evening. She's sitting on a curb with her skirt hiked up. Lamb to slaughter. But of course I was not going to partake in any of it. There is no fun in that.
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Old 04-09-2012, 12:14 PM   #14
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S.That is so true. When I was in London, I noticed these girls were decked out in the tightest shortest dress that they could find. Seriously, these girls are constantly pulling their dresses down. Don't forget the 6 inch stilettos that they cannot walk in. And it is not because of Piccadilly Street is screwed up. It's because the girissue so drunk by the end of the evening. She's sitting on a curb with her skirt hiked up. Lamb to slaughter. But of course I was not going to partake in any of it. There is no fun in that.

Oh boy, english women ;-).... there are jokes in portugal about germans and english women having the worst taste when it comes to dress code.

this " stretch skirt" pulling down sh*t is so annoying. If you have to pull it down just buy a longer one, right?


I realized that women who can`t walk in stilettoes are the ones who use "plateau heels" , who are thick and look as if you are a drag queen doing a show..



worst is small women thinking they are tall and dressing in boots and skirts and plateau sandals that go above the ankle (makes the leg even shorter).... yikes... I mean I am tall but I am very careful how I wear such things...

If nothing else .... at least Escorts have taste and the guy knows what he will "see" when he books one ))..

As to the date and expense thing. Maybe if you`re in the "super spoiled brat league" a date costs that much , and maybe the guy wants to not only get laid but married.
I have heard (in europe we have rumors or prejudices as well... ;-)...) that many men in the US complain that the women in general are more financially or let`s say "status" oriented. Job with money or such.

As to the comment that american women give too much to american men. I think that in europe women are generally more "giving", and I find - usually - and from legal status - women in USA are more emanzipated and angry about their rights and status.

I am not talking about the occasional dumb bimbo getting laid and offering herself for nothing - self esteem wise - (which you will find here and there, not only in US territory) , but generally business wise and relationship wise US women are more protected. As to sexual harrassment at work places (I used to get comments from men in regular jobs in europe, that probably will get you fired or sued in US terms...) Also stalking laws, divorce laws, women in USA have more self esteem than in europe where it`s ok when someone gives you "cat calls" on the street, and when you complain they look at you as if you have the problem.

So, all of this gives american women a different sense of entitlement.
Then comes the education aspect. We witness many so called HDHs that brag about being educated as if this is something they should get a noble-price for. In Europe it`s normal. In USA not. You are a completely different league player if you went to some spoiled brat Ivy league university, because it is highly expensive. Also this gives a sense of entitlement, a sense of self esteem, a sense of difference , which may make some people (in this case women) more comfortable with themselves.

The american women I got to know all have a lot of self esteem and know wht they want and how to get it. European women still suffer a lot from male chauvinism. As much as this is not "really" out in the open, european men tend to be more macho than american men, who tend to be more like eternal kids.

(Just my personal experience.... and reflections of other women who dated both and lived both continents. Americans sometimes lack on the reality level and european men lack at the respect level). Of course all generalizations. Not to be taken too serious. Its just a little "direction".

American men also tend to find mediocre women more appealing than european men. I mean this in terms of compliments. AMerican men generally make more compliments, and are - IMHO - easier to impress, or at least they pretend to be like that. I never figured out if they really mean what they say or if its just a general way to make a woman feel good. European men are nasty, hard to give compliments and take you for granted. Its not "stylish" to tell a medicre looking woman with fat legs and short skirts who obviously behaves stupid that she is looking really good and is bright and intelligent. In the USA they do that out of politeness, which explains the inflated sense of self some women seem to have.
In Europe If you behave stupid and look like shit, they tell you in your face. Not directly but at least making some hints. That means european men expect women to be "equal sparring partners" while americans still do the "old style courtesy " thing. In Europe if you make big words you have to deliver, while in the USA there is always some excuse for why some women cannot be held responsible for their actions, as if growing up seems to be a male- only thing to do .

I am for sure generalizing, I know but it`s an interesting observation for sure ;-).
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Old 04-09-2012, 01:58 PM   #15
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Snore... Why am I going to NY this coming week? To smell testosterone...
Then guess that 3 date thing is shot now isn't it?
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