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		|  11-15-2012, 12:50 PM | #1 |  
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				 Governor Rick Scott drops opposition to Obamacare 
 
			
			More and more they are starting to crack! 
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		| TALLAHASSEE (AP) -             Florida Gov. Rick Scott, one of the most  vocal critics of the federal health care overhaul, is dropping his  staunch opposition to the law. Scott said in an interview Tuesday with The  Associated Press that he now wants to negotiate with the federal  government. He said it's time for Republicans to offer solutions to help  families after they lost their bid to defeat President Barack Obama.
 "The election is over and President Obama won,"  Scott said. "I'm responsible for the families of Florida ... If I can  get to yes, I want to get to yes."
 Scott had previously stated that he would not go along with any parts of the health care overhaul that the state controls.
 But his newfound willingness to have a "conversation" about putting it in place in Florida comes at a critical time.
 States have until Friday to notify federal  authorities whether they plan to set up health insurance exchanges, a  marketplace where individuals and smalls businesses can shop for the  most affordable coverage and where many will get help from the  government to pay their premiums.
 Florida so far has taken no steps to set up its own exchange.
 Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen  Sebelius announced an extension last week. She still wants to hear if  states will be setting up health insurance markets under the law. But  governors can now take another month, until mid-December, to submit  detailed blueprints.
 Most states have been on the fence awaiting the  election outcome. They now have three options: running their own  exchanges, operating an exchange in partnership with the federal health  officials, or letting the feds handle everything.
 Scott said he still has concerns about the  exchanges, including the cost of running one and whether it would  increase the cost of health care for families. But he said he's sure  federal officials want to find ways to provide affordable health care to  people.
 "I don't think anyone involved in trying to improve health care should say `no, no, no," said Scott "Let's have a conversation."
 Scott's willingness to discuss the issue with  federal officials in Washington aligns him closer to some other  Republican leaders in Florida.
 Incoming Florida House
  Speaker Will Weatherford, for example, said the state may be willing to  set up an exchange if it gets some better answers from Washington about  how they will work. Weatherford said that in the short term the state  may have to default to the federal government but he is leaving open the  possibility that could change.
 "To me Florida should control its own future," Weatherford said.
 Scott made his fortune as a health care executive  and once ran the nation's largest hospital chain. He made his first  foray into politics by forming a group called Conservatives for  Patients' Rights that ran TV ads criticizing health care reform before  it was adopted by Congress.
 Florida led the legal battle to stop the health  care overhaul and shortly after the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the law  Scott said that the state would not implement the exchanges or expand  its Medicaid program to enroll more people in the program.
 Florida had the nation's third-highest rate of  residents without health insurance during the past three years,  according to Census data released last year.
 But the state also has some of the most stringent eligibility requirements in the country for Medicaid.
 A family of three with income of $11,000 a year  makes too much and single residents are not covered. The Obama  administration wants those requirements loosened so that an estimated 2  million uninsured Floridians could be covered by Medicaid. But experts  don't believe all those eligible will participate. Feds will pick up 100  percent of the tab for the first three years and at least 90 percent  after, along with extra funding
  for technology costs. Florida's Medicaid program currently costs more  than $21 billion a year, with the federal government picking up roughly  half the tab. It covers nearly 3 million people -- about half are  children -- and consumes about 30 percent of the state budget.
 Advocates who favor expanding the Medicaid rolls  say it will save money in the long run by deterring people from  emergency rooms -- the most expensive, least effective place to treat  people.
 The issue has been predictably polarizing with  conservative groups urging states to dig in their heels and fight  federal implementation.
 "Governors should join the growing chorus in  sending a strong message to Washington that their states will not  implement these flawed health insurance exchanges" said Nicole Kaeding  of Americans for Prosperity. "Exchanges raise prices on consumers and  increase taxes on hardworking families."
 
 
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		|  11-15-2012, 04:56 PM | #2 |  
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			I guess Florida isn't going to secede after all.  Not unless they can take their health care plan with the a,
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		|  11-15-2012, 08:51 PM | #3 |  
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			I didn't read the text but let me guess:
 Now that its time to collect taxes and get benefits, the gov has no choice but to drop opposition to the law.
 
 Amiright?
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		|  11-15-2012, 10:26 PM | #4 |  
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			Those damn Republicrats.
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		|  11-15-2012, 10:34 PM | #5 |  
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			I can't remember the politician who said it, but the comment was, "If you're going to be raped, might as well lie back and enjoy it."
 That's what we have here.
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		|  11-16-2012, 08:25 AM | #6 |  
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					Originally Posted by gnadfly  I didn't read the text but let me guess:
 Now that its time to collect taxes and get benefits, the gov has no choice but to drop opposition to the law.
 
 Amiright?
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Stop being lazy and read it.
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		|  11-16-2012, 08:32 AM | #7 |  
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			That quote was made famous by Guberntorial Candidate Clayton Williams in the Texas election against Ann Richards...likening rape to bad weather, having stated: "If it's inevitable, just relax and enjoy it".  He also wouldn't shake Ann Richards hand in a debate. 
The election was known as the Lady Against Claytie race.
 
It cost Claytie the election !
 
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					Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy  I can't remember the politician who said it, but the comment was, "If you're going to be raped, might as well lie back and enjoy it."
 That's what we have here.
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		|  11-16-2012, 08:32 AM | #8 |  
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					Originally Posted by markroxny  Stop being lazy and read it. |  
Are you being racist again, KarlMarxRoxny?
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		|  11-16-2012, 08:34 AM | #9 |  
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					Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy  Are you being racist again, KarlMarxRoxny?  |  
Are you being stupid again old man?   Like when you said these statements?
 
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					Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy  ... But you are so full of hate, you can't  see straight. You're a hater, and that's what hater's do. They  hate. |  
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					Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy  ..."Hate" is  such a cheap argument. It effectively closes off any reasonable dissent.  It's the last vestige of a coward with no substantive argument.
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Checkmate
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		|  11-16-2012, 08:38 AM | #10 |  
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			It was just a question, KarlMarxRoxny. Weren't you the one complaining that calling Obama lazy was racist? I just wanted to make sure you weren't being a hypocrite. I guess I found out.   |  
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		|  11-16-2012, 08:40 AM | #11 |  
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					Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy  It was just a question, KarlMarxRoxny. Weren't you the one complaining that calling Obama lazy was racist? I just wanted to make sure you weren't being a hypocrite. I guess I found out.  |  
Yea you found out that YOU are a hypocrite and i have the proof
 
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					Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy  ... But you are so full of hate, you can't  see straight. You're a hater, and that's what hater's do. They  hate. |  
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					Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy  ..."Hate" is  such a cheap argument. It effectively closes off any reasonable dissent.  It's the last vestige of a coward with no substantive argument.
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		|  11-16-2012, 08:44 AM | #12 |  
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			Like I said. This will be fun.
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		|  11-16-2012, 08:46 AM | #13 |  
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			COG:  it gets more so every day.....yesterday we caught Wellendowed in a ball faced lie regarding his bet with Budman..........today who knows which leftie will bite the dust !
 They don't have the facts on their side........and it shows each day......
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		|  11-16-2012, 08:47 AM | #14 |  
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					Originally Posted by Whirlaway  That quote was made famous by Guberntorial Candidate Clayton Williams in the Texas election against Ann Richards...likening rape to bad weather, having stated: "If it's inevitable, just relax and enjoy it". He also wouldn't shake Ann Richards hand in a debate.
 The election was known as the Lady Against Claytie race.
 
 It cost Claytie the election !
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Yep.  Williams was the typical no-class douche republican.  That was back when people in Texas had a little good sense left.
  
I'm sure Williams would win that election today, his shitbird comments and rude behavior would probably be celebrated by our repukes.
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		|  11-16-2012, 08:47 AM | #15 |  
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					Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy  Like I said. This will be fun. |  
sure will, especially when i expose your hypocrisy and you are too much of a coward to even address it.  
 
big fun
 
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					Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy  ... But you are so full of hate, you can't  see straight. You're a hater, and that's what hater's do. They  hate. |  
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					Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy  ..."Hate" is  such a cheap argument. It effectively closes off any reasonable dissent.  It's the last vestige of a coward with no substantive argument.
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