Personal Request

[Guest031811]

Gentlemen,
I love spending time with you! This is a hobby, so it’s supposed to be FUN! I realize that each lady is unique, and we all run things slightly different. I cannot make this request for all providers, but I think some would agree with me. Can you PLEASE give the lady you plan on using a “heads up” prior to using her as a reference? Or perhaps, you could provide details that will “jog” her memory. What's even better? Consider a p-411 membership.

In this world, we survive on vouches. Vouches can make or break an appointment. I know that the hobby is different for every gentleman. Some men hobby once a week; others hobby once a year. Either way, a vouch is a vouch. However, I find that scheduling an appointment is much less of a headache for everyone when the gentleman has notified his reference ahead of time, has provided significant “memory jogger” information, or uses a p-411 request.

I realized that some men are opposed to automated screening like preferred-411 or date-check. However, I swear by these websites. They are your friends. Even more so, they are my friends. My only analogy for this is the “ez-pass”. In the northeast, they have turnpikes. While there is much debate over whether the 50 cents you pay to drive 30 miles is actually worth it, you still have to pay the toll to drive on the road. You have the option of paying in cash or having an electronic system (ezpass) posted in your vehicle that keeps track of the fees you owe. The people who want to pay in cash have to wait patiently in line for the toll road attendant to figure out how much each vehicle owes. Imagine rush hour and there are 3,000 other people waiting to pay the attendant. Now, imagine the EZ pass lane. The EZ pass in your vehicle gets scanned as you drive by. No slowing down or stopping necessary. No ridiculously long periods of time waiting for the shithead in front of you to count out 3 dollars and 25 cents in pennies.

The hobby is similar. You can be in the “cash only line”:
Mr. Hobby: I’d like to schedule a date
Me: Great! When
Mr. Hobby: Today at 1.
Me: Fantastic . Do you have a vouch?
Mr. Hobby: yes. Her name is Sara.
Me: Great! Which Sara? There are 50 of them on Eccie.
Mr. Hobby: Oh. She isn’t on Eccie. I found her on backpage.
Me: Sir, can you please send me her website so I can validate that she is a reviewed escort.
Mr. Hobby: I think I have her phone number somewhere. Her full name is Sara Sue.

Me: Did you see Mr. Hobby?
Sara Sue: Maybe? What does he look like?
Me: I donno.
Sara Sue: Well, how long ago did I see him?
Me: I donno
Sara Sue: Did he tell you which city I saw him in?
Me: Uh, no?

Me: Sir, can you please provide a description of yourself or some other identifying information such as the approximate date and location of your date with Sara.
Mr. Hobby: Why? Does she not remember me?
Me: Sir, please do not be offended. We ladies try not to keep detailed records in order to preserve your anonymity.
Mr. Hobby: Tell her that I was the guy in Miami with the big dick.

Me: He said that you met in Miami and that he has a large penis.
Sara Sue: Which time in Miami? Was he the white guy? How old was he? Did he say which hotel?

Me: (Slaps hand to forehead) [Thinks: Christ almighty! This is impossible.] Sir, I regret to inform you that I am unable to schedule an appointment with you at this time. Sorry for the inconvenience.



Do you see my point? With p-411, I get a single notification with the date, time, location, and duration of the desired session. I see that the gentleman has 2 okays. Perfect. Done deal. Ez-pass scanned.



Try not to flame me for this post. I am at home under the weather. I will probably read this tomorrow and think, “Gee… I should get more sleep before posting…”

[JSmith2010]

You just always have something to complain about don't you? Whenever I read your posts I always think to myself, there are a hundred other providers that go through the exact same shit as her, why is she the one always complaining?

[Mature Companion]

Originally Posted by JSmith2010

You just always have something to complain about don't you? Whenever I read your posts I always think to myself, there are a hundred other providers that go through the exact same shit as her, why is she the one always complaining?

Totally uncalled for, JSmith

Britney is spot on with her post. If you don't like what she posts. Put her on your ignore and don't read them. There's no need for you to insult the lady for putting forth something that needs to be said. An issue we ladies deal with on a daily basis. Britney is offering up advice to try to cut down on all the back & forth time consuming of the screening process. (for all parties involved).


You owe the young lady an apology. She doesn't deserve to be disrespected.


Thank you, Britney, for putting forth publicly what many of us express daily in our communications with the hobbyist.

[Guest031811]

Originally Posted by JSmith2010

You just always have something to complain about don't you? Whenever I read your posts I always think to myself, there are a hundred other providers that go through the exact same shit as her, why is she the one always complaining?

I'm surprised that you've taken the time to read "all" of my posts. I'm flattered! Wow!

You can see this post as a complaint or you can see it as a conversation piece! I'm a firm believer that if something is amiss, we should talk about it.

Posts are supposed to elicit humor, feelings, opinions, and self-examination. I think this post is something to talk about. If you don't, then that's your opinion.

If there are holes in my post... point them out. I have lots of room for improvement in my life. Perhaps I have a flaw in my screening process.

Hey... its about communication. I'd love to hear your opinion!

[elbuddy]

I agree with WM...an apology is in order....

[JSmith2010]

Originally Posted by Wicked Milf

You owe the young lady an apology. She doesn't deserve to be disrespected.

Good luck with that. I didn't disrespect her, I expressed my opinion that she complains a lot about the same things everyone else goes through and doesn't complain about.

If she feels an apology is in order then I will, but not because someone else requested it, that doesn't make sense to me.

[Precious_b]

I think her complaint is spot on.

I personally don't think i'm memorarble in any respect and I always try to think of something that make me identifiable (sp) for such events.

This *complaint* serves a purpose. And any Hobby person who snoozed through its point really shows they aren't up to date on their etiquette here.

[JSmith2010]

You know somehow I actually managed to miss an entire paragraph in her post or it was edited.

Having read that now I'd say your post sounds a lot more like an advertisement for P411 than a bitching and moaning session.

Try giving a discount to clients that use P411.

[gooose]

My 2 cents.

I think there should be an unspoken understanding that if I had a date with a provider, I might be using her as a reference for the next provider that I see.

Most of the provider's criteria for references are pretty vague unlike WM's. You should tell the hobbyist what info you need from them ie. provider's handle, date of appt, location, etc. in order for you to verify them.

And third but not the least; JS was a little rude in his comment and a true gentleman would apologize.

[Ray McKigney]

A lot of us just don't feel comfortable with giving P411 all the information they request. I do agree that it is a good idea to ask before you use a girl as a reference. But once a girl has told me that I can use her as a reference, am I good to go, or should I contact her beforehand each time?

[JSmith2010]

Originally Posted by gooose

My 2 cents.

I think there should be an unspoken understanding that if I had a date with a provider, I might be using her as a reference for the next provider that I see.

Most of the provider's criteria for references are pretty vague unlike WM's. You should tell the hobbyist what info you need from them ie. provider's handle, date of appt, location, etc. in order for you to verify them.

And third but not the least; JS was a little rude in his comment and a true gentleman would apologize.

She says part of the problem is that you might hobby regularly and someone else might hobby once a year, so even if you express that you'll use someone as a reference, by the time you do that might not be useful.

I don't know that I'm a true gentlemen, if I was I probably wouldn't be on this website, lol.

[Mature Companion]

Originally Posted by Ray McKigney

A lot of us just don't feel comfortable with giving P411 all the information they request. I do agree that it is a good idea to ask before you use a girl as a reference. But once a girl has told me that I can use her as a reference, am I good to go, or should I contact her beforehand each time?

I don't believe that would be necessary for all. But for some, Yes.
It's a requirement. WADTD.

I don't require a gent contact me beforehand, when using me as a reference. As I understand that it can be time consuming on his end to contact the reference prior to listing her as his reference for those ladies he wishes to see.
Like yourself. When I see someone. I'm already of the understanding and make it clear. That I am A-OK with being used as a reference as long as my personal data is not disclosed. And provided we've met recently and our date didn't take place years ago.

And gents. It's always best to have the providers your *wanting to see* to provide a link of websites/reviews, when their contacting your references for a vouch on your behalf.

Because many of respectable women. Will not respond to vouch requests to unknown women who contact us, asking about a gent. Unless they have proof of being a legit provider. It's our way of respecting your privacy.


Screening is a must. But it can be tedious. Being mindful of each others time. And providing all the proper information upon the initial contact. Makes for a breeze with screening. (for the most part).

[Sexy Roxanne]

I agree with you WM, I feel he same. I am fine with being used a ref and I don't require a heads up.

Thanks for the post!

Originally Posted by Wicked Milf

I don't believe that would be necessary for all. But for some, Yes.
It's a requirement. WADTD.

I don't require a gent contact me beforehand, when using me as a reference. As I understand that it can be time consuming on his end to contact the reference prior to listing her as his reference for those ladies he wishes to see.
Like yourself. When I see someone. I'm already of the understanding and make it clear. That I am A-OK with being used as a reference as long as my personal data is not disclosed. And provided we've met recently and our date didn't take place years ago.

And gents. It's always best to have the providers your *wanting to see* to provide a link of websites/reviews, when their contacting your references for a vouch on your behalf.

Because many of respectable women. Will not respond to vouch requests to unknown women who contact us, asking about a gent. Unless they have proof of being a legit provider. It's our way of respecting your privacy.


Screening is a must. But it can be tedious. Being mindful of each others time. And providing all the proper information upon the initial contact. Makes for a breeze with screening. (for the most part).

[dumbgi]

I admit that I was a little uncomfortable with the P411 process. But I was talking with a provider in Austin a few months ago, and she told me how much more secure she feels when meeting clients who are P411-verified. I decided that we all share the risk in this hobby, and P411 helps keeps our beloved ladies safer and happier. Since joining, I've witnessed firsthand how easy it is to see new providers once you're in.

[MsPrittiKitti]

i think this is a great post!
i definately feel the same way.
now granted we (providers) may all go through it, but im not sure all the guys qite understand. kudos to jsmith for being so bright & understanding that this is a common problem amongst providers.

i think the post gives the other gents a little insight, and some advice.

i screen ALL gents. the thing that upsets me most, is when theyve seen a provider (that has a board presence & everyone knows) and uses her as a ref.
1. evrybody knows her, so she "must" be a good reference (is what im sure the guys are thinking)
BUT----- she doesnt provide vouches. SO.
2. it makes it appear that i am not easy to schedule with when little do they know...she doesnt vouch.

now this past week, ive experienced this with quite a few gents. which is pretty interesting. (ive noticed that gents that have seen her have an interest in me as well)

i wouldnt dare say who she is, im not about the drama. but i will say that angelina adams, likkinikki, ch@rlie, sonya, badazzvanessa, and im sure im missing a few others...have been prompt in their responses!