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Originally Posted by Missburger
the facts are the curve has not flattened in texas
facts
as you know
trump couldnt beat a rock this november, oh the red state of texas going to cry so much about it
its putins fault he didnt rig the machines this time
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Gnadfly was a putz for making this post and has been repeatedly wrong in his predictions about CV-19.
But you are also wrong in your critique of Texas.
I note you are from NY and probably have an inferiority complex over how badly NY performed. So you lash out at the biggest red state to assuage your low self esteem.
Texas did have a bad run over the last 2 months, but the trend in Texas - and Florida too - is decreasing new cases. So the curve HAS flattened in both states. Flattened simply means it is NOT going up - either it is level or decreasing. That is undeniably true in Texas right now.
I note you have not mentioned blue state California, which has also had a bad two months. At least as bad as Texas. California appears to be leveling off, but I don't think it is going down yet. At least not according to the Johns Hopkins model.
So do us a favor and skip the red state-blue state critique. Because the blue states have taken a much bigger hit since this all began than the red states have. The worst hit ones are NY, NJ, MA, and CT on a per capita basis. Illinois and California are right behind them.
And you ridiculously try to blame the early opening of bars and restaurants, but completely ignore the massive George Floyd protests starting in early June.
Ultimately, it is not politicians that control this, it is the people themselves. We have learned the hard way that people don't react until the threat gets serious.
NY got burned early due to its mass transit and population density. They lost so many people, which had three significant results that slowed the disease: 1) they ran low on people with co-morbidities; 2) the population got terrified; 3) they got closer to herd immunity.
Factor 1 - After 30K die in two months, the death toll MUST drop, simply because you have less people around who are elderly, obese, and diabetic. However, I don't think the Democrats in NY want to take credit for this improvement.
Factor 2 - The NY population took masking and distancing far more seriously than other states - red or blue. Scared people are far more likely to take precautions because the threat is very real, not remote. But, this isn't really due to any political decisions. It's just human nature - self preservation at work. And again, I don't think NY Dems want to take credit for terrifying the population.
Factor 3 - We know that there are FAR more asymptomatic people than symptomatic people. There are estimates that 25% to 50% of the NY population has already had Covid and developed antibodies. That will reduce the transmission rate. Combine that with continued masking and social distancing and you can keep a lid on new cases. But again, that level of herd immunity was achieved at great cost.
California, Florida, Arizona, Texas, Georgia and other states were spared the early onslaught that NY, NJ, and CT suffered, because those Sunbelt states have far lower population density than the Northeast and people commute alone in cars, not on crowded mass transit.
