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			I still have yet to have a dream.  I have contacted 4 or so different people specifically because they have great reviews and seem very good at what they do and they seem very safe for me.   But they are not interested in seeing me because I have no references and the fact is THEY ARE GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO AND ARE VERY SAFE.   I know -  the dreaded Catch-22.    
 
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			02-07-2011, 11:22 PM
			
			
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			I am having similar problems. Try contacting brook at enticing flavors. She will have other means of verification and the girls are beautiful. I am trying to set up a date with Kelsey right now. Good luck and be safe.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-08-2011, 08:48 AM
			
			
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			I agree. Try an agency first just so you can be verified & also they do have a great selection.    
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-08-2011, 11:14 AM
			
			
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				I still have yet to have a dream.  I have contacted 4 or so different people specifically because they have great reviews and seem very good at what they do and they seem very safe for me.   But they are not interested in seeing me because I have no references and the fact is THEY ARE GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO AND ARE VERY SAFE.   I know -  the dreaded Catch-22.    
 
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Duh, Duh:
 
Slow down!     Quite frankly you scare me too.  All people need to be treated nicely.  Do you think you can just run in and jump someone.  You are one of two types of people: 1) LE that just wants to grab someone and not take the time investment before developing a case, or 2) a nut case that just wants to jump someone and not take the time investment to develop any type of personal relationship.  
 
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			02-08-2011, 11:41 AM
			
			
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			If you don't want to go the agency route you could get verified on preferred411 and also find a girl that is listed as newbie friendly.  I don't know what you like but from my experience it was not too painful and my first dream was with a very good choice.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-08-2011, 01:42 PM
			
			
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			They are definitely out there just have to look a bit. Don't be afraid to send pm's to registered providers here as they are usually very helpful. They will want to verify you aren't LE somehow through a work check and/or home number. Again, just make sure that you are contacting a reviewed and verified provider and all will be ok. Good luck. Maybe some of the girls that are newbie friendly can pm this guy and see what they can work out.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-08-2011, 03:20 PM
			
			
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			I, too, am new to the 'game', but have been observing online and following the threads for a while.  I think it just takes those first couple, and then we're good to go....?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-08-2011, 03:23 PM
			
			
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			Jr. I am neither choices 
  
 
Adam. Thx I have taken your advice and used the PM method and it seems like the work verification method might suffice for some.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				...a nut case that just wants to jump someone and not take the time investment to develop any type of personal relationship.   
 
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Not everyone is interested in the hobby to have a personal relationship.  Different folks want different things out of the hobby for different reasons and I don't see anything scary about wanting a no strings, no personal relationship fantasy.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-08-2011, 04:23 PM
			
			
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			Wow, JR, anyone seeking a personal relationship with a provider is very dangerous at best, typically we call those folks stalkers or psychos, Just because I went to McDonalds for a burger today doesn't mean I should want to marry the grill person.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-08-2011, 05:38 PM
			
			
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				Wow, JR, anyone seeking a personal relationship with a provider is very dangerous at best, typically we call those folks stalkers or psychos, Just because I went to McDonalds for a burger today doesn't mean I should want to marry the grill person. 
			
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Completely unfounded and untrue.  Depends on how you define a "relationship".  But many of the girls on here are people I consider friends.  People who's company I genuinely enjoy.  I prefer to find people that I "click" with.  Doesn't make me dangerous or a stalker.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Completely unfounded and untrue. Depends on how you define a "relationship". But many of the girls on here are people I consider friends. People who's company I genuinely enjoy. I prefer to find people that I "click" with. Doesn't make me dangerous or a stalker. 
			
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If you are paying them and they are servicing your johnson, YOU ARE NOT FRIENDS , its a business arrangement... BUT I guess if you are foolish enough to believe that, and they get your money and let you believe it.. Yay for you and them!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-08-2011, 06:53 PM
			
			
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			I AM, 
  
Speaking from a provider's POV, yes you can be friends with someone you have a business arrangement with. This is a business just like any other, its just more intimate.  Of course some are in it just for the money and don't wish to have anything to do with you other than BCD time, but there are others like me who tend to form bonds with certain gents that I "click" with. 
  
How much a provider or hobbyist decides to reveal to each other is up to them. But, I have a few guys in KC and more in Omaha (homebase) that I consider my friends and could call if I ever needed.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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Speaking from a provider's POV, yes you can be friends with someone you have a business arrangement with. This is a business just like any other, its just more intimate. Of course some are in it just for the money and don't wish to have anything to do with you other than BCD time, but there are others like me who tend to form bonds with certain gents that I "click" with. 
  
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again, that is fine and your choice, but for someone to ASSUME that ALL providers wish to have anything more to do with a client than the typical exchange is not only rediculous but wrong as well. I maid my statement because this guy chastised another for being  
 
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			02-08-2011, 08:01 PM
			
			
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			In right cases...with two well-grounded individuals...the term "friends with benefits" can 
be a fun ride for everyone. 
  
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