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		|  10-21-2014, 11:57 AM | #1 |  
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				 News item - JOCO man arrested for raping, strangling escort 
 
			
			Surprised there's been no discussion about this.  Prayers for the girl, and I hope this scumbag gets what's coming to him.http://www.kctv5.com/video?clipId=10...autostart=true |  
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		|  10-21-2014, 12:22 PM | #2 |  
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			God that is scary. I am so glad that she is OK. And guys wonder why we screen.
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		|  10-21-2014, 01:28 PM | #3 |  
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			I dont think anyone can tell if a guy is a potential rapist or a homicidal nut job by screening.
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		|  10-21-2014, 01:40 PM | #4 |  
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			Well I guess we know what happened to Jayhawker.
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		|  10-21-2014, 01:48 PM | #5 |  
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			Besides the fact that this nutbag needs to get locked up for a long time.....who the fuck does outcalls to teenager's mom and dad's houses in JOCO?
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		|  10-21-2014, 01:58 PM | #6 |  
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					Originally Posted by Gemma34  I dont think anyone can tell if a guy is a potential rapist or a homicidal nut job by screening. |  
There are no silver bullets in this hobby that guarantee safety. But we both know that screening goes a long ways towards reducing our risk. If it didn't, we wouldn't do it. 
 
Lets be honest Gemma, we both know this psycho would have never made it through your screening.
 
I am definitely not blaming the victim here. She is not responsible for the fact that this guy was a psycho. I am just very relieved that she is OK, and that she had the courage to report her experience to the police.
 
But when I see guys getting an attitude about a provider's screening requests, these are the stories that come to mind that justify why screening is important.
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		|  10-21-2014, 02:36 PM | #7 |  
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					Originally Posted by SinsOfTheFlesh  There are no silver bullets in this hobby that guarantee safety. But we both know that screening goes a long ways towards reducing our risk. If it didn't, we wouldn't do it. 
 Lets be honest Gemma, we both know this psycho would have never made it through your screening.
 
 I am definitely not blaming the victim here. She is not responsible for the fact that this guy was a psycho. I am just very relieved that she is OK, and that she had the courage to report her experience to the police.
 
 But when I see guys getting an attitude about a provider's screening requests, these are the stories that come to mind that justify why screening is important.
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Was thinking if this guy had references it would be very unusual
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		|  10-21-2014, 02:38 PM | #8 |  
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			lets all play & stay safe
 That is so scary!!
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		|  10-21-2014, 05:23 PM | #9 |  
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					Originally Posted by SinsOfTheFlesh  There are no silver bullets in this hobby that guarantee safety. But we both know that screening goes a long ways towards reducing our risk. If it didn't, we wouldn't do it. 
 Lets be honest Gemma, we both know this psycho would have never made it through your screening.
 
 I am definitely not blaming the victim here. She is not responsible for the fact that this guy was a psycho. I am just very relieved that she is OK, and that she had the courage to report her experience to the police.
 
 But when I see guys getting an attitude about a provider's screening requests, these are the stories that come to mind that justify why screening is important.
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LOL! You are correct in saying he would not have made it through my screening. Or yours OR many other providers who screen very thoroughly. 
  
And, he lived with his parents and I'm wondering if they even had any clue that their son was homicidal?? His parents obviously aren't seeing any signs and that is fuckin scary. 
  
But even some of the most observant people dont know they are dealing with a rapist or a homicidal maniac. So, I'm just saying it could happen to anyone.  And I'm glad she made it as well, but I'm guessing, as you said, she didn't screen. 
  
So, I completely agree with you Stacy. This is a prime example why we screen.
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		|  10-21-2014, 08:39 PM | #10 |  
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			The first thing I thought of when I heard this story on the radio this morning was, "oh man, I hope all the ECCIE girls are ok."  I really give this girl kudos, whoever she is.  The really creepy part is that he found out what hospital she was in and went there.
 Be careful, ladies.  Screening can be a pain in the ass for everybody sometimes, but just remember this story if you're ever tempted to let your guard down.
 
 I say that if this guy bonds out, a few of us guys go kick his ass just as a matter of principle.
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		|  10-21-2014, 08:43 PM | #11 |  
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			This story is beyond scary.  I am just glad that she is okay.
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		|  10-21-2014, 09:24 PM | #12 |  
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					Originally Posted by Zeeba Neighba  The first thing I thought of when I heard this story on the radio this morning was, "oh man, I hope all the ECCIE girls are ok." I really give this girl kudos, whoever she is. 
 Be careful, ladies.
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		|  10-21-2014, 09:56 PM | #13 |  
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			Why the hell would you rape an escort? She is there for sex usually.... Maybe she wouldn't do bbbj and he got mad.  Probably more likely he had no money and she wanted to leave and he turned on her. Crazy dude got nabbed before he could really hurt someone in the future.
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		|  10-21-2014, 10:08 PM | #14 |  
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					Originally Posted by royamcr  Why the hell would you rape an escort? She is there for sex usually.... Maybe she wouldn't do bbbj and he got mad.  Probably more likely he had no money and she wanted to leave and he turned on her. Crazy dude got nabbed before he could really hurt someone in the future. |  
For most of these nut jobs,  the major motive for rape is power, not sex.
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		|  10-22-2014, 01:25 AM | #15 |  
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				 Really?? Wow 
 
			
			Let's take a ride down memory lane. ..anyone familiar with BTK.. he had a trustworthy position with a church for 25 effing yrs!! And one thing I CAN Assure you of .. is that most psychopathic freaks can put on a show long enough to "fulfill"their desires ! Could have seen several women .. even collecting awesome  references from model type escorts and still went where he did... !! Yes screening is helpful.. BUT reality is we still put ourselves in very dangerous situations with people we REALLY DON'T KNOW.  So you meet a client on a semi regular basis say 2xs per month for what a year.. and you know them??? no you don't you know what they let you know or what they tell you you really don't know s*** about them and they really don't know s*** about us the only time you really know somebody is if you spend a lot of quality time with them and then as example I was using BTK ... do you really know them. if you think you do I'm not here to pop your illusion balloon ,  the point I am actually getting ready to make it is I am starting self defense classes if you have never taken any ladies and gentlemen I would highly recommend !highly recommend that you look into it at least. We are all important to somebody..  and at least care enough about you to be able to protect yourself so you can rest your head safely at the end of each day.. HUGS ♡  done lecturing  for today .   |  
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