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		|  05-27-2015, 03:03 PM | #16 |  
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			I much prefer to come in and plunk the envelope down on the coffee table or dresser. I have never had a woman want to count it first except once early in my hobby career, and I never went back to her.  Didn't walk out on her, just never went back. All the rest have trusted me to have put the correct amount in the envelope, which I find touching.
 Granted, I'm in turn trusting her not to refuse me blatantly. I hope she  finds that touching also. And instead of negotiating up front, I like  to let things develop. I assume she wants repeat business from me, so will  give it her best shot, and it develops like a real world date,  spontaneous mutual enjoyment of a man and a woman.
 
 Moreover, I believe there is an LE issue here. The provider and I haven't agreed to anything quid pro quo, sex for money, or anything. I don't think it's a crime to walk into a woman's apartment and put an envelope of money on her coffee table.
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		|  05-27-2015, 03:07 PM | #17 |  
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					Originally Posted by hd  Nothing wrong with asking for the envelope first, but if and when repeated visits are happening, I don't see a need for being a hardcore business person by asking for it as soon as I walk in the door, especially if both of you are civil people.
 On a few occasions I was almost out the door and forgot to leave it when she (a regular I had been seeing) asked me for it. I genuinely forgot and was very embarrassed and apologetic. It doesn't bother me at all for you to remind me what I forgot.
 
 Handle it how you need to, but try to be a little more easy going with your customers, this is a service industry after all and you want repeat clients.
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I completely agree. Of course I DONT have a problem seeing my regulars first then getting the donations because we have that understanding but if I've never seen u & u want the session first its not gonna happen. When I ask for my donations I DONT be rude or have an attitude at all
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		|  05-27-2015, 03:18 PM | #18 |  
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			Easiest way is to just tell her to check it.As in, make sure everything is square.
 
 Why any guy would have a problem with that is beyond me.
 To me that is establishing trust right from the start, not
 showing a lack of it.
 
 I always do that even with someone I have seen before.
 Just the way I think I suppose.
 
 Especially sense girls have been ripped off.
 Do you want a girl having that on her mind
 the whole time she is with you.
 
 Girls have been ripped off buy guys putting ones in the middle
 of 20s and crap like that.
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		|  05-27-2015, 03:18 PM | #19 |  
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					Originally Posted by mark77070  I much prefer to come in and plunk the envelope down on the coffee table or dresser. I have never had a woman want to count it first except once early in my hobby career, and I never went back to her.  Didn't walk out on her, just never went back. All the rest have trusted me to have put the correct amount in the envelope, which I find touching.
 Granted, I'm in turn trusting her not to refuse me blatantly. I hope she  finds that touching also. And instead of negotiating up front, I like  to let things develop. I assume she wants repeat business from me, so will  give it her best shot, and it develops like a real world date,  spontaneous mutual enjoyment of a man and a woman.
 
 Moreover, I believe there is an LE issue here. The provider and I haven't agreed to anything quid pro quo, sex for money, or anything. I don't think it's a crime to walk into a woman's apartment and put an envelope of money on her coffee table.
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Great words baby. Thanks for your opinion
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		|  05-27-2015, 03:22 PM | #20 |  
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					Originally Posted by Nina_Love  Ladies,I've seen on here that some of u ladies get your donations AFTER the session . me personally I would NEVER EVER EVER do that . I've heard so many scam stories plus I won't even get wet knowing I DONT have my donations first (lol) so tell me what u ladies think on this subject. I think its super silly and crazy to do that but I know some of u ladies do it so let me know why?
 
 &&&&
 
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 I've never had a problem with a client paying up front . I know there r some gentleman that ABSOLUTELY REFUSE to donate first. Why? Does it work? Would u turn down seeing a lady just because she asked for donations first?
 
 I Believe I Have Enough Reviews And Feedback for a Gentleman to feel comfortable with me requesting donations first but let me know what who guys think! So curious!!!!
 -NINA ❤
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after my last issue with the p411 guy, i don't let people in my door until i have seen donation, and won't start until i have it.
 
grantes i'm always wet unless i know you are just a douche, then i may not see you at all
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		|  05-27-2015, 03:22 PM | #21 |  
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					Originally Posted by bojulay  Easiest way is to just tell her to check it.As in, make sure everything is square.
 
 Why any guy would have a problem with that is beyond me.
 To me that is establishing trust right from the start, not
 showing a lack of it.
 
 I always do that even with someone I have seen before.
 Just the way I think I suppose.
 
 Especially sense girls have been ripped off.
 Do you want a girl having that on her mind
 the whole time she is with you.
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Exactly baby same way I feel. I just prefer not to count it in your face. I'll "glance" at it. Always been right
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		|  05-27-2015, 03:23 PM | #22 |  
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					Originally Posted by !VI!  after my last issue with the p411 guy, i don't let people in my door until i have seen donation, and won't start until i have it.
 grantes i'm always wet unless i know you are just a douche, then i may not see you at all
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Exactly mama . Glad we're on the same page!
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		|  05-27-2015, 03:30 PM | #23 |  
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			I think what Nina means is that she can't focus on the client and give him the outstanding service he deserves and that she is capable of giving until business is handled, which is totally understandable    |  
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		|  05-27-2015, 03:36 PM | #24 |  
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			I haven't had a provider asked me for a donation upfront in a long time. Always wait to the end of the session. If someone were to ask me for it upfront I obviously would give it to her but it would probably be the last time I see her
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		|  05-27-2015, 03:42 PM | #25 |  
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					Originally Posted by Nina_Love  Exactly baby same way I feel. I just prefer not to count it in your face. I'll "glance" at it. Always been right |  
I guess some people never pay attention to alerts. 
There have been guys that stuff the envelopes with 
ones, use fake money, just walk out after without  
paying, etc.
 
Some guys don't realize how much better their time might 
be if they have a girls trust from the start.
 
Guys have been ripped off also, that is why you do your  
research first. If a guy is wondering "is this girl going to 
rip me off" then he has picked the wrong one in the first 
place JMO
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		|  05-27-2015, 03:49 PM | #26 |  
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					Originally Posted by txexetoo  I haven't had a provider asked me for a donation upfront in a long time. Always wait to the end of the session. If someone were to ask me for it upfront I obviously would give it to her but it would probably be the last time I see her |  
That is why a guy should take the initiative and do it himself.
 
Blows me away that people would make it a personal thing. 
It is just looking out for a girl in a rather vulnerable situation, 
and just plain old taking care of business in a professional 
manner
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		|  05-27-2015, 04:26 PM | #27 |  
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			*Bojulay*Great job within your thought process pertaining to a subject that involves business in the sex industry!!
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		|  05-27-2015, 04:32 PM | #28 |  
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					Originally Posted by bojulay  That is why a guy should take the initiative and do it himself.
 Blows me away that people would make it a personal thing.
 It is just looking out for a girl in a rather vulnerable situation,
 and just plain old taking care of business in a professional
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They are the ones making the money, the risk is theirs if they want the money. If I'm paying, I'm doing so at no risk, just as easy to turn and walk.
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		|  05-27-2015, 04:35 PM | #29 |  
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					Originally Posted by bojulay  That is why a guy should take the initiative and do it himself.
 Blows me away that people would make it a personal thing.
 It is just looking out for a girl in a rather vulnerable situation,
 and just plain old taking care of business in a professional
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  That's your opinion.  And like assholes everybody has one.  My way works fine for me works fine for a lot of guys.   Like I said if a provider wants the money upfront that's her prerogative. It's my prerogative not to see her.  No harm no foul.  It makes the whole process to businesslike.  And I'm not seeing them to have a business transaction I'm seeing them to have a Girlfriend experience.
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		|  05-27-2015, 04:44 PM | #30 |  
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			Mark, your wrong  about the le thing. No money has to change hands to get busted. Just makes it easier.  
 Because of my selection process and screening,  i am comfortable with a provider and she with me before the session begins.  I think the last time a provider asked me to pay upfront was over 4 years ago.  I think a lot of that trust is based upon that process.   I did give the donation to a repeat  provider up front one time last year because of circumstances and ended up being ripped off.
 
 But do what  your comfortable with.  Just be sure to let the client know before he gets there so there is no misunderstanding
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