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		|  11-27-2018, 02:30 PM | #46 |  
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					Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought  Obama bailed out the union not gm
 gave a big chunk of gm to the union
 
 cut out the legitimate secured creditors
 
 based the bailout on political considerations and not law or sound economics
 
 its the one TARP bailout that lost the government money due to obama's politics
 
 gm made wrong choices on its vehicle offerings, like the chevy volt, a vehicle Obama lyingly said he was going to purchase, choices tinged with politics
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Bush and Obama bailed the banks and the Autos.
 
Funny how you leave out Bush....
https://www.newyorker.com/news/john-...the-automakers 
You need to brush up on your history never
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		|  11-27-2018, 02:37 PM | #47 |  
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			Well I'm thanking President Trump for keeping oil prices low.  In the scheme of things, who cares about a Saudi double agent?  I'm not willing to pay $5 a gallon for gas for a friend of UBL.
 Thanks President Trump!
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		|  11-27-2018, 03:13 PM | #48 |  
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					Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought  Obama bailed out the union not gm
 gave a big chunk of gm to the union
 
 cut out the legitimate secured creditors
 
 based the bailout on political considerations and not law or sound economics
 
 its the one TARP bailout that lost the government money due to obama's politics
 
 gm made wrong choices on its vehicle offerings, like the chevy volt, a vehicle Obama lyingly said he was going to purchase, choices tinged with politics
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Plus Obama put some dame in charge just to prove how progressive he is, not whether she was qualified or not.
 
Obama fucked up, again.
 
Fuck Obama.
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		|  11-27-2018, 03:17 PM | #49 |  
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	You keep pretending that fuel prices have gone lower than they were when Trump took office.Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by WTF  Yea....cheap oil prices will cause the market to shift!  Thanks President Trump and Saudi Arabia! |  
	That was the motto FDR lived by that got the world through WWII.  Look it up.Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by WTF  I thought the enemy of your enemy was your friend. Is IB telling a fib? |  
	Still a net gain, and some of those people have been asked to relocate and accept jobs at those factories that are earning -- not losing --- money.  Others were offered buy-outs.Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by themystic  15,000 jobs lost IB. Donald Trump (FTFY) can explain your philosophy to the people who lost their jobs. |  
	Macron is the one who injected himself into the market by passing new taxes on gas ... just like hildebeest wants to do. Trump's remarks are protected by the 1st Amendment.Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by WTF  A government official injecting himself into the market like you ckaim Trump has done by demanding lower oil prices.....is called picking winners and losers.
 Something not to long back, many of you denounced
  
 Oh what short memories my right wing friends have.
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		|  11-27-2018, 03:27 PM | #50 |  
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			Funny how when Obama essentially put GM under  government control, they also stopped making the cars that were selling. No more Hummers or the like. Just Volts and "economy" cars that people didn't want. When you don't sell what the customer wants, you just won't last.
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		|  11-27-2018, 03:31 PM | #51 |  
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					Originally Posted by I B Hankering  You keep pretending that fuel prices have gone lower than they were when Trump took office. 
 
 That was the motto FDR lived by that got the world through WWII.  Look it up.
 
 
 Still a net gain, and some of those people have been asked to relocate and accept jobs at those factories that are earning -- not losing --- money.  Others were offered buy-outs.
 
 
 Macron is the one who injected himself into the market by passing new taxes on gas ... just like hildebeest wants to do. Trump's remarks are protected by the 1st Amendment.
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IB Donald J Putin has been punked out once again. 15,000 Jobs lost while he was attacking children with tear gas. Even his blow up doll Melania thought that was the act of a pussy. That's gotta suck when your wife thinks you are a pussy. Why couldn't he keep those jobs he promised those people? Maybe they can go to Mexico and get jobs building the border wall that Mexico is paying for
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		|  11-27-2018, 03:45 PM | #52 |  
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	The people being punked are the one's listening to the bullshit hyperbole pumped out by the lame-stream media who then stupidly repeat that bullshit hyperbole in public forums.  The rest of us are enjoying lower gas prices at the pump.  Thank you Trump.  Thank you Saudi Arabia.Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by themystic  IB Donald J Trump (FTFY) has been punked out once again. 15,000 Jobs lost while he was attacking children with tear gas. Even his blow up doll Melania thought that was the act of a pussy. That's gotta suck when your wife thinks you are a pussy. Why couldn't he keep those jobs he promised those people? Maybe they can go to Mexico and get jobs building the border wall that Mexico is paying for |  
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		|  11-27-2018, 04:08 PM | #53 |  
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			I b it's about GM. Not your precious mushroom that's fkn up the country
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		|  11-27-2018, 04:14 PM | #54 |  
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	hildebeest wasn't elected, so no one is fucking up the country.  There's net job growth at GM.  hildeebest's policies would have kept that from happening.Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by Tsmokies  I b it's about GM. Not your precious mushroom that's fkn up the country |  |  
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		|  11-27-2018, 04:17 PM | #55 |  
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					Originally Posted by I B Hankering  hildebeest wasn't elected, so no one is fucking up the country.  There's net job growth at GM.  hildeebest's policies would have kept that from happening.  |  
Admit it IB. Donald J Putin cost 15,000 Americans their jobs. What a loser
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		|  11-27-2018, 04:28 PM | #56 |  
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					Originally Posted by themystic  While Donald J Trump (FTFY) has been president, GM has increased its work force by about 5,800.  What a winner!  |  
 FTFY
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		|  11-27-2018, 04:31 PM | #57 |  
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					Originally Posted by gnadfly  Well I'm thanking President Trump for keeping oil prices low.  In the scheme of things, who cares about a Saudi double agent?  I'm not willing to pay $5 a gallon for gas for a friend of UBL.
 Thanks President Trump!
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I earlier responded to Fred on this subject.  In October of this year oil prices hit a 4 year high.  When Trump took office the price of oil was about $54 a barrel.  On October 5th the price was $75 a barrel.  It is now $52. 
 
So explain to me how Trump kept oil prices low.
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			The President is about to go to war with GM.
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		|  11-27-2018, 04:44 PM | #59 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jackie S  The President is about to go to war with GM. |  
what is wrong with this nut case
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		|  11-27-2018, 05:40 PM | #60 |  
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					Originally Posted by I B Hankering  You keep pretending that fuel prices have gone lower than they were when Trump took office. 
 
 That was the motto FDR lived by that got the world through WWII.  Look it up.
 
 
 
 Macron is the one who injected himself into the market by passing new taxes on gas ... just like hildebeest wants to do. Trump's remarks are protected by the 1st Amendment.
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I've never pretended that.
 
You seem to be stuck in the 1940's.
 
Clintons remarks are protected by the First Amendment too....what was your point there? I said Trump is interjecting government force into the market, thus picking winners and losers. I thought that was a bad thing when Obama was President,  have you now changed your mind?
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