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		|  07-08-2019, 04:06 PM | #16 |  
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                User ID: 412267 Join Date: Jul 24, 2017 Location: DFW-AIRPORT AREA 
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			I can assist  
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		|  07-10-2019, 12:01 AM | #17 |  
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	A client can BUY-IN and get verified through his employment.Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by GingerKatt  I have vouched for several gentlemen since 2011.   I’m not sure of the current standards either, or prior to September 2011.   Maybe it had to do with how easily P411 can verify employment and address?  I don’t know.  I just know I’ve gotten several emails from P411 that stated something like, “Joe Blow has listed you as a provider that he had a session with on 2-2012.  Can you verify this gentleman, and would you recommend him?”   I reply back YES and I go to his P411 account and I’m listed as his first OK. 
 The client in question usually contacts me first and asks if I’ll verify him.
 
 But of course that has nothing to do with a dirty client (Slubby) trying to extort a freebie from a lady in return for a voucher.  That’s cheap and wrong. Like Trump buying votes wrong.
 This client sounds too cheap to be on P411.
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		|  07-10-2019, 03:15 PM | #18 |  
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			I look forward to seeing you on P411!
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		|  07-10-2019, 03:24 PM | #19 |  
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                User ID: 449385 Join Date: Mar 31, 2018 Location: Dallas 
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			im also trying to join p411 guys can anyone help me out?
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		|  07-10-2019, 08:57 PM | #20 |  
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					Originally Posted by Copierguy0  A client can BUY-IN and get verified through his employment. "NO VOUCH NEEDED"
 
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Well there's always a fee however you do it, but fake documents and employment records are ridiculously easy to obtain.   ESPECIALLY for LE. And P411 has a reputation for being so careful. 
Just being able to throw down your money doesn't seem very careful to me. 
They used to have a free 6 month trial period, not sure about now.  But you still had to be provider verified for that.
 
LE goes undercover frequently and are the very best at creating fake DL, employment, tax records, whatever  is required.  And of course having someone verify a client's job and "transferring" the call to his office.  But ANYONE can do that.  There are people all over the internet that make their living creating expert fake personas and documents.
 
I agree it doesn't make sense to take out one escort at a time, but maybe if they flip a high volume provider and offer her a deal ...who knows. 
Buying in also does nothing to guarantee that the client will not get rough, rob, cheat, steal, rape, beat or kill.  Soooo, no guarantee that a newbie P411 client is not LE and no guarantee that he's a good client.  But he's P411 verified? 
I thought P411 was better.  I'm glad I never saw anyone with no OK's.  Gina was always good at cancelling the memberships of guys with provider complaints, but of course it was only AFTER something bad happened.  I'm not familiar with the new owners.
 
There's been a rash of bad clients lately, not just on P411, but all over.  Like Slubby who attempted to coerce Leena into a free session, and Linkin20 who asked Lusty Busty Gina for half off of a 30 min session in exchange for a review.  And another Eccie client asked for a freebie in exchange for "a much needed review", from a very well known Dallas provider who certainly does not need any reviews.  She has plenty and will continue to get plenty.  But I can't name him because the provider hasn't publicly outed him yet, like the other two have. 
More shortings and door dashers too, and inappropriate requests.
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		|  07-10-2019, 10:44 PM | #21 |  
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			I was on P411 for 20 years.    I left about  5 months ago over the usual provider drama bullshit.    I have to say,  the only thing that ive personally missed is that there was a provider on there I would see regularly and contact through P411.  As a result of me not being on there,  that particular girl has lost some of her income.  Besides that,  I have not been affected in anyway.  I still see who I want, and if anything I feel less frustrated because the "available now" feature on there in theory was great,  but never seemed to work for me.  Good luck
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		|  07-11-2019, 01:59 AM | #22 |  
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					Originally Posted by GingerKatt  Well there's always a fee however you do it, but fake documents and employment records are ridiculously easy to obtain. (even a provider can do it)   ESPECIALLY for LE. And P411 has a reputation for being so careful.Just being able to throw down your money doesn't seem very careful to me. (having a provider vouch is being careful? lol i think not. Maybe you should have said a REPUTABLE PROVIDER VOUCH)
 They used to have a free 6 month trial period, not sure about now.  But you still had to be provider verified for that.
 
 LE goes undercover frequently and are the very best at creating fake DL, employment, tax records, whatever  is required.  And of course having someone verify a client's job and "transferring" the call to his office.  But ANYONE can do that.  There are people all over the internet that make their living creating expert fake personas and documents. (even providers, lets not rule them out)
 
 I agree it doesn't make sense to take out one escort at a time, but maybe if they flip a high volume provider and offer her a deal ...who knows. (providers are flipped daily to save her own skin)
 Buying in also does nothing to guarantee that the client will not get rough, rob, cheat, steal, rape, beat or kill.  Soooo, no guarantee that a newbie P411 client is not LE and no guarantee that he's a good client.  But he's P411 verified? (also no guarantee that a provider vouch will change any of that)
 I thought P411 was better.  I'm glad I never saw anyone with no OK's.  Gina was always good at cancelling the memberships of guys with provider complaints, (or memberships of providers that were under age, no ID, cash-n-dash, UPSELL, pimps in shower, etc) but of course it was only AFTER something bad happened.  I'm not familiar with the new owners.
 
 There's been a rash of bad clients (and providers) lately, not just on P411, but all over.  Like Slubby who attempted to coerce Leena into a free session, and Linkin20 who asked Lusty Busty Gina for half off of a 30 min session in exchange for a review.  And another Eccie client asked for a freebie in exchange for "a much needed review", from a very well known Dallas provider who certainly does not need any reviews.  She has plenty and will continue to get plenty.  But I can't name him because the provider hasn't publicly outed him yet, like the other two have.
 More shortings and door dashers too, and inappropriate requests.
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Lets not leave out the providers that offer free session, contract sessions, half off sessions, BBFS on the down low sessions for glowing reviews so they can become the flavor of the month. It's all about the dollars. IMHO providers created monsters like slubby by offering those things, y'all did it to yourselves. Don't act like there are no bad providers out there. Clients and providers need to take risks in this type of business. It's the nature of the beast. I been around long before eccie was even created, and was a P411 client while i was on ASPD so, i seen a lot. This is a risky business and that is why providers get paid the big bucks. IMHO, women are the best shoppers on the planet when it comes to finding half off bargains or coupon clippers or DEALS OF THE WEEK so, what slubby did, don't act like it's something new.  Having multiple providers vouch is the best way to screen, not full proof but the best we got for now. On P411 a provider can see all his OKs, Profile, and BIO and no need to ask who they are, what their phone numbers are, etc. P411 is a great time saver and screening tool.  
 
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		|  07-11-2019, 08:50 AM | #23 |  
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					Originally Posted by Exotic_gem  I can assist  
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I do not think p411 providers can vouch for non-p411 providers to get them an account on p411. The process that was told to me was that it takes at least 2 male members of p411 to vouch for a provider, but they have to have had a session with them before the vouch, and after they get the 2 vouches, the provider will get an invite to fill out an application to be a p411 provider via email. If she just goes on to p411 and tries to fill out an application, they will get a reply back that p411 is not accepting new provider members.
 
I am glad that I can let providers see my profile who would normally not be able to because they are not on p411. I have vouched for 6 ladies after I did a session with them and 3 are now p411 providers.
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		|  07-15-2019, 06:05 PM | #24 |  
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                User ID: 449385 Join Date: Mar 31, 2018 Location: Dallas 
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			Where do I start to get on p411??
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		|  07-15-2019, 06:12 PM | #25 |  
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					Originally Posted by leelo_huna  ��Thank u all for taking the time out to help me out the right way and actually Read My Coed, I was just insulted by Slubby saying the only way he would help me out was if I offered him a Free session and maybe then he would consider helping me out on P411��....but for the Gentleman who I have already Previously met in which i Stated Before I appreciate the Chivalry... You Are the Real MVP'S��.... CANNOT WAIT TO BE ON THE P411 TEAM SOON[/B] |  
Smh that is ridiculous... Slubbz I can't believe u    2 pages later n he still hasn't responded to the thread about the accusations hmmmm
 
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		|  07-15-2019, 06:23 PM | #26 |  
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					Originally Posted by Mary love  Where do I start to get on p411?? |  
You need to be invited by two male members.  See Wile’s post above. It seems correct to me.
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		|  07-15-2019, 07:29 PM | #27 |  
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			P411 is making a comeback and i'm loving it....
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		|  07-15-2019, 10:59 PM | #28 |  
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			Only 450-ish providers in Dallas now compared to 700 plus few years ago.
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		|  07-16-2019, 07:10 AM | #29 |  
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					Originally Posted by Shep3.0  Only 450-ish providers in Dallas now compared to 700 plus few years ago. |  
There are 877 Dallas provider showcases on Eccie https://eccie.net/providers.php  , that does not count the ones that do not have showcases and the ladies on other sites (including p411) who choose not to be on Eccie. Are you saying that over half of the ladies that have a showcase here are not active? 
 
If anyone should know it would be you, considering that when you do a review of a new provider to Eccie, notice that each one is immediately a verified provider and sometimes has a showcase up, and even before the review of yours is posted, but their join date is the same day of your review of her. A couple of your very recent ones: https://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=2629481  https://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=2625457 
Other reviewers do not get their reviews moderated as fast as the new ladies you review get verified female provider account status. It appears the Dallas mods are getting to the status for the new ladies very fast! Good job Eccie staff!    
Maybe what I said earlier about the process for a provider to be on p411 is not correct. Maybe if only you vouched for them, that is all they need to get on p411, and considering how fast the mods get to your request here, then the p411 staff might as well?
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		|  07-16-2019, 12:13 PM | #30 |  
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			^^ I was referring to p411.
 Don't be jealous homey
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