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			08-10-2020, 09:19 PM
			
			
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			Correction to my numbers  
 
We’ve have had 97000 infections reported in the last TWO weeks.  
 
There have been over 300,000 kids that have been infected by this pandemic. So much for immunity. Another lie,  
 
Of course doesn’t like the truth. He’s too busy either rigging the election by letting one of his cronies fooling with the post office.. 
 
OR. 
 
He’s off playing golf. So much for hard work from the laziest guy that has occupied the WH.  
I guess Trumpy still thinks COVID-19 is a hoax or it’s the “sniffles” the Lies continue,  
All those Drugs he’s taking are clouding his judgment. I wonder if he can pronounce YOSEMITE yet ?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-10-2020, 09:41 PM
			
			
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			So nows I wonder how the racismS ends up in this discussion about official “policies”?   Looks like someone’s lost his edge, eh?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-10-2020, 10:11 PM
			
			
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				So nows I wonder how the racismS ends up in this discussion about official “policies”?   Looks like someone’s lost his edge, eh? 
			
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Racism in discussions contaminates every institution in America FBO race hustlers.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-11-2020, 12:39 AM
			
			
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				Something to think about ; 
 
Prior to the Civil War and during the Civil War there were many Foreign Intrigues taking place. 
These foreign countries were very encouraging regarding the secession of the South.They wanted to gain undue influence and perhaps spoils of war. 
We were still a relatively new young country. 
With us being divided and thus weakened we were very much exposed to possible take over.These countries were embarking on empire and wanted us.Fortunately our Union was preserved. 
			
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what foreign intrigues taking place regarding america?
 
the only one who may have the resource to take over a country was the  late british empire.
 
I don't think they wanted to take over "america".  its more likely over influence and new avenues of trade.  they're not shy about trading and having diplomatic relations with a slave state that was the confederacy.
 
the only intrigue that you were talking about were taking place on the mainland between the North and South business interests on economics and slavery.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-11-2020, 03:37 AM
			
			
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			08-11-2020, 07:07 AM
			
			
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				From a letter by Wayne Grudem - thanks DF for the posting - a comparison of the prty polices of the Republicans and Democrats.  
 
 
 
Republcan Party: 
 
 
 - originalist judges,  
 
- pro-life policies,  
 
- a stronger military,  
 
- a free-market economic system,  
 
- lower taxes,  
 
- fewer government regulations,  
 
- strong support for Israel,  
 
- clearheaded recognition of the economic, military, and information threat of China 
 
- a high value placed on human freedom,  
 
- personal accountability for committing crimes,  
 
- good jobs and school choice as the best way to help the poor,  
 
- a strong border wall and a secure border, followed by a comprehensive reform of our immigration system,  
 
- careful extraction and clean use of carbon-based fuels (coal, oil, natural gas),  
 
- freedom of conscience (government should not force Christians to use  their artistic skills to convey a message of approval of same-sex  marriage or to use their medical skills to perform an abortion, or to  use their pharmacies as the distribution point for drugs that cause  abortion),  
 
- racial inequalities in income and quality of education should primarily be solved by  
 
- greater availability of tax-supported school choice in low-income neighborhoods,  
 
- economic growth resulting in more and better jobs, and  
 
- an increase in safety through an increase in police presence in high crime neighborhoods   
 
- medical marijuana should be allowed (with a prescription from a doctor) but recreational marijuana should be prohibited, and  
 
- restrooms, locker rooms, and single-gender sports teams should be restricted to people of one biological sex or the other. 
 
 
 
 
Democrat party: 
 
- allow abortion up to the moment of birth,  
 
- authorize the use of our tax money to pay for abortions and gender reassignment surgery, 
 
- cripple our economy with ever-increasing government control and taxes,  
 
- further cripple the economy with expensive Green New Deal energy regulations,  
 
- increase unemployment,  
 
- weaken our military in the face of increased aggressiveness by China,  
 
- promote a Jimmy Carter-like foreign policy of appeasement,  
 
- abandon Israel to fend for itself, 
 
- nullify the Senate filibuster rule (both Obama and Biden have recently  spoken about this) so that all legislation can be passed with only 50  senators plus the vice president casting the tie-breaking vote,  
 
- support the rising influence of judges who are not constrained by the  original meaning of the words of the Constitution or of the laws,  perhaps even adding six additional seats to the Supreme Court in order  to be able to give the court a new 10-5 majority of such justices (this  could be done with control of both the House, the Senate, and the  presidency) 
 
- grant statehood to both Washington DC and Puerto Rico, thus adding  four more Democrats to the U.S. Senate (I have heard three US senators  already predict that the Democrats would do this if they had the votes) 
 
- support draconian laws that compel an artistic professional or a  professional counselor to affirm the validity of same-sex marriage even  when that is contrary to the professional person’s conscience, 
 
- reinstate the Obama-era guidelines that required schools to allow  biological males who claim to be transgender females to use girls’  bathrooms, locker rooms, and showers (the guidelines were canceled by  Trump),  
 
- allow biological males to compete in women’s sports, setting new statewide records in women’s track events and other sports 
 
- pass multiple new, extremely strict green energy laws that will  massively increase energy costs and therefore will also increase the  cost of everything that is made or transported with the use of energy, 
 
- seek to defund the police (to be precise, Biden has said he favors  “redirecting” some police funding to other programs, which is a partial  “defunding” of police, which will lead predictably to a substantial  increase in crime), 
 
- use violence and intimidation to nullify freedom of speech (in practice) for those who disagree with them politically, 
 
- support open borders and sanctuary cities in defiance of the law, and that 
 
- promote a complete federal government takeover of our healthcare system. 
 
 
- and - pack the SC with radical judges to achieve a majority in the SC to advance any and all socialist policies above.  
 
 
 
 I am not a Trump fan - but the radicalism of the DPST's is chilling - they follow their violent protestors in Porltand and other cities toward a marxist rule of Amerika! 
SR - who is in denial as to the senility of Biden - what say You???? 
			
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OEB, your post is not even worthy of comment. Sorry. None of your points about the Democratic party are true. Yes, there are a handful of people who do support such measures, but very few. You are taking the extreme and making it look like the norm.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-11-2020, 07:11 AM
			
			
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				I want all people to have justice.  That statement alone is enough to start a riot.  I want all people to have prosperity. I want all people to be treated fairly.  Feel free to discus 1B1. 
 
Yesterday, there was organized riots and looting in Chicago. Caravans of cars came into the city and were met by police officers.  Stores broken into. Merchandise stolen. No social distancing and few masks. How does that help anybody?  Saw a store broken with probably 10K$ worth of damage.  Looks like all they took was a couple of cases of soda. 
			
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That was absolutely horrible. That was not a protest. It was a bunch of thugs looking to score free goods.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-11-2020, 08:25 AM
			
			
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				OEB, your post is not even worthy of comment. Sorry. None of your points about the Democratic party are true. Yes, there are a handful of people who do support such measures, but very few. You are taking the extreme and making it look like the norm. 
			
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you are floating on an iceberg in the tropics.... your old dim party is melting fast
 
the party you think of isn't the party you are in
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-11-2020, 08:28 AM
			
			
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			Great Britain,France,Germany,and Russia all had designs and interest in what was taking place in the USA back then. 
 
Their motive was to gain either undue influence over our affairs here,especially in the South,or to obtain outright spoils of war here in the form of lands or territories. 
 
Some of them helped the South with arms and financial aid.They did so very discretely as they did not want to get caught on the losing side and thus incur the disfavor of the North or a re-united USA. 
 
Take over was perhaps not the most apt way to term it as it would not necessarily be a matter of us actually being a possession of any of those countries. 
 
The idea though is that as a divided nation we are not as strong to resist the intrusions of foreign countries.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-11-2020, 08:33 AM
			
			
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			China china china is the real threat , (joeys  an friend family there baby)  Back on point that's the stated differences however both parties very (to) close in ideas
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-11-2020, 09:33 AM
			
			
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				OEB, your post is not even worthy of comment. Sorry. None of your points about the Democratic party are true. Yes, there are a handful of people who do support such measures, but very few. You are taking the extreme and making it look like the norm. 
			
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SR - for One who vehemently denies Biden's senility - do realize that the leaders and driving force fo the DPST party are the socialist radicals - Bernie and AOC - and every word written is factual and true of the political ideology they adhere to. Biden is incapable of leading - and that is the puppet desired by the DPST radicals. 
 
The DPST enabling of rioting . looting, and and excusing it as -"not violence" will come back to bite the DPST's in Nov, 2020!! 
Justifiably so. 
 
One can vote for rule of Law - or a violent marxist revolution - that is the choice.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Yea vote for joeys , is a vote for china, he's already forced most manufacturing to china ,
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-11-2020, 11:37 AM
			
			
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			It has been interesting to see the hysterical responses from the DPST acolytes - denial, deflection to wuhan virus numbers and blaming trump for china's misdeeds, etc, and etc.  
 
None so blind as will not see. 
Vote Biden - and you will never have to vote again - The chinese and russian masters will see to it.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				SR - for One who vehemently denies Biden's senility - do realize that the leaders and driving force fo the DPST party are the socialist radicals - Bernie and AOC - and every word written is factual and true of the political ideology they adhere to. Biden is incapable of leading - and that is the puppet desired by the DPST radicals.  
 
The DPST enabling of rioting . looting, and and excusing it as -"not violence" will come back to bite the DPST's in Nov, 2020!! 
Justifiably so.  
 
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Biden's senility is not among the list of points you say Democrats support.  Totally different issue. 
 
I consider myself a moderate Democrat, someone who will vote for the person I consider to be the best candidate rather than a party line.  I am considered to be slightly left of center with my political views. The majority of Democrats are like me, moderate. I do not support a single issue that you listed NOT ONE.
 
You say that your list is typical of Democrats as a whole. The list is basically ridiculous. They consist of your OPINIONS and are void of facts. You might be able to find a handful of people who actually do support your points but to believe that the majority of Democrats support them is ridiculous.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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