Doctors condemn conspiracy theory pushed by Trump that COVID-19 deaths are over-counted by hospitals — Any ECCIE doctors care to respond?

[GastonGlock]

Originally Posted by reddog1951

Ricky to Lucy: "So, "s'plain to me what happened in NYC and Italy a few months ago, and what is happening in Texas hospitals now".

Only some TX hospitals. More rural ones, incidentally. I've got nurses I know that work between Austin and SA saying that hospitals are empty and they're bored.

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by reddog1951

Ricky to Lucy: "So, "s'plain to me what happened in NYC and Italy a few months ago, and what is happening in Texas hospitals now".

This is not a U.S. problem only! It is world wide! No one has the answer! dims do not understand this!

[reddog1951]

To Glock with humor: Maybe you should bore them!
To Wynn:Your first sentences were absolutely correct. Please take to heart.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

New CDC statistics.



OMFG, we’re all gonna die!!!

There's something squirrelly about this chart. It's definitely not from the CDC, because those guys know how to add and subtract. For example, 100% - 94.6% = 5.4%. The infection fatality for 50-69 age group and 70+ age group seem a bit low but not outrageously so, if you move the decimal point two places to the right. There are 36 million people in the USA over the age of 70. If 70% of people over 70 eventually are infected, then with a 5.4% infection fatality ratio you'd be looking at 1.4 million deaths.

My bet is that we'll have an effective vaccine before we get to that point.

[oeb11]

Tiny - hope you are correct.

If Biden is elected - one of his first actions (directed by harris and other handlers) - will be a nationwide lockdown to destroy the economy and prepare the country for stanlinist totalitarianism.

That and the Soylent New green Deal - which will be enacted under pressure from AOC and Bernie ( if the DPST's get the Senate) - is enough to totally bankrupt America for generations!
and for no good return fo the People!

[royamcr]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

New CDC statistics.



OMFG, we’re all gonna die!!!

Don't think 240,000 (probably 300k by year end) don't really care about this chart.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by oeb11

Tiny - hope you are correct.

If Biden is elected - one of his first actions (directed by harris and other handlers) - will be a nationwide lockdown to destroy the economy and prepare the country for stanlinist totalitarianism.

That and the Soylent New green Deal - which will be enacted under pressure from AOC and Bernie ( if the DPST's get the Senate) - is enough to totally bankrupt America for generations!
and for no good return fo the People!

Su you didn’t answer the question, oeb11.

Your willful ignorance is your answer.

Thank you for confirming.

[oeb11]

Poor YR - triggered much that the wuhan virus has not caused millions of deaths ???
So Sad to be so deluded and in denial!

[sportfisherman]

Could some of you Trumpers help hook me up on how I can get in on some of this extra money by "fudging" up some bogus Covid deaths ?

Do I get the Money from the Insurance company ?

Or the Hospital ?

Or the CDC ? (Cause they are part of the dreaded Deep State aren't they ?)

Or do you think it is the Democrats doing it ? Paying out extra money to Doctors for bullshit Covid death figures.

I bet it's those Democrats.

Trumpers help me out here !!

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by sportfisherman

Could some of you Trumpers help hook me up on how I can get in on some of this extra money by "fudging" up some bogus Covid deaths ?

Do I get the Money from the Insurance company ?

Or the Hospital ?

Or the CDC ? (Cause they are part of the dreaded Deep State aren't they ?)

Or do you think it is the Democrats doing it ? Paying out extra money to Doctors for bullshit Covid death figures.

I bet it's those Democrats.

Trumpers help me out here !!

What's the deal? You want a how to manual on Medicare fraud? OK, I'll prepare that, but it's going to cost you. Henceforth Sportsfisherman's North Austin Covid Hospital will have to pay me 10% of revenues.

Seriously it costs hospitals more to treat Covid patients than, say, pneumonia patients who don't have Covid. That's pretty obvious. It makes sense the Medicare reimbursement should be higher.

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by Tiny

There's something squirrelly about this chart. It's definitely not from the CDC, because those guys know how to add and subtract. For example, 100% - 94.6% = 5.4%. The infection fatality for 50-69 age group and 70+ age group seem a bit low but not outrageously so, if you move the decimal point two places to the right. There are 36 million people in the USA over the age of 70. If 70% of people over 70 eventually are infected, then with a 5.4% infection fatality ratio you'd be looking at 1.4 million deaths.

My bet is that we'll have an effective vaccine before we get to that point.

The Regeneron should be ready as well. The remdisvir is ready now and has been approved by the FDA. Former Gov Chris Christy got the remdisvir and was able to go home in eight days.

[reddog1951]

"Seriously it costs hospitals more to treat Covid patients than, say, pneumonia patients. That's pretty obvious. It makes sense the Medicare reimbursement should be higher."

True, and points to the potentially serious nature of covid infection.

I worked in the Healthcare industry fo decades, and yes, there is some Medicare fraud. BUT, that fraud is almost always due to a relative handful of greedy and lascivious individuals oftentimes not capable of rendering legitimate care. I am aware of one small private hospital chain guilty of Medicare fraud, but without the abetment of their general medical staff. Any hospital administrator or chain that would even suggest "upcoding to a covid diagnosis" to their medical staff would be immediately censured an almost every hospital in the country. Doctors can be greedy SOB's, but do not try to tell them what to do or advise to break ethics.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by oeb11

Poor YR - triggered much that the wuhan virus has not caused millions of deaths ???
So Sad to be so deluded and in denial!

There it is, folks. Admission that oeb11 is NOT a licensed medical doctor.

Shit, I hear he's not even an American.

Care to comment on that, too, Doctor DOTY?

Or are you too busy cleaning your arse-nal?

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[sportfisherman]

I'll be happy to cut you in Tiny !!

It's just that Trump claims that Doctors are getting compensated more for Covid death certifications as opposed to other causes.

And I know that's bullshit !!

I'm just being a smartass !!