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			09-07-2022, 12:32 PM
			
			
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				You do realize Trump gave himself a huge tax cut right? 
Of course you do not....the stuff you read does not discuss facts like that!   
			
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			09-07-2022, 01:45 PM
			
			
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 but NYS took mine, But then NYS is USA last Unless its NYS 
 
NYS is trying trade deals without the USA with other country's
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-07-2022, 03:30 PM
			
			
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			America First and MAGA have the same flaw.  Slogans that don't really specify what is implied.  I'd like to see the Republican party develop a platform updated since 2016 that specifically addresses their agenda going forward with action items to achieve their agenda, rather than "slogans". 
 
In all fairness, same goes for Democrats.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-07-2022, 04:28 PM
			
			
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				But that's NOT what it stands for ... It means that the 
President is putting America First. 
NOT other nations last.
 
And President Trump is a "WE First" leader. ...   
... Looking out for AMERICA'S Best Interest FIRST 
before the other nations.
 
... While "Sleepy    Joe is down in the 30s wih 
approval numbers and most of America surely believing 
that the country is "on the wrong track"...   
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Joe Biden's numbers are/were low because of the price of gasoline. 
 
Biden has about as much say on the price of gasoline as you do in the price of pussy!
 
Trump is a Me First leader....he does not give a fuck about the country. He cares about winning and if he doesn't win he will do the next best thing and lie about him winning.
 
Regardless....I'm not sucking Trump's dick but if you Trump lovers want to, have at it.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-07-2022, 04:34 PM
			
			
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			... Joe's numbers are LOW because of MORE than just 
the price of petrol-gas... A LOT MORE. 
 
uh.... WHY do many Americans believe the country 
is "on the wrong track"?? ... And WHY won't the 
Democrat politicians campaign with President Biden?? 
 
Low numbers are because Biden doesn't put AMERICA FIRST. 
(that - and the FACT that Joe stinks as President) 
 
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			09-07-2022, 05:37 PM
			
			
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			Just in case you’re wondering (Salty I know you weren’t because ignorance is bliss) the right track/wrong track this time in 2018 was 40/60. That was with this supposedly great economy yall wax nostalgic about. Right now it’s 27/73 with the worst economy the US has ever had (according to some of you on the right). It was 32/68 a week ago. If you think right track wrong track has anything to with Biden, you’re likely in for a big surprise.  
 
Biden’s current approval is 42 with 53 disapproval. Even Rasmussen has him at 44. This time 4 years ago I bet you don’t know what Trump’s was, (Salty, in case you are not up on “the polls”) 38 with 56 disapproval. Now how could that be. He had the greatest economy to have ever existed.  
 
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			09-07-2022, 10:10 PM
			
			
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			...    ... I DO believe the "wrong track"  
surely got EVERYTHING to do with Biden.
 
So what's the Big Surprise??
 
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			09-08-2022, 05:03 AM
			
			
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			Of course you do. But you also believe any cockamamie story and conspiracy so you believing something isn’t saying much.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-08-2022, 06:02 AM
			
			
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				Well Salty....how about Australia last. 
 
Are you happy with that? 
 
What team has ever done great if it has a ME FIRST leader?  
 
Now if we withdraw from all trade with all countries....a Me First attitude can might work. Or would it?  
 
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Saltty left his homeland for his own reasons, and they are his to know alone, or share as he sees fit.
 
My anticedents on both sides left Europe in several waves from 1880 through 1910 . . . .for religious freedom, freedom from oppression and the hope of economic opportunity.  One set of brothers left Italy for New York around 1905 to earn money so the family could buy back the farm in from the Catholic Church. Branches of the family that stayed were lost to the Nazis in WW-II.
 
I can think of several reasons why I'd want to leave Australia if I were a native born Auzzi.  I'd le3ave Canada for similar reasons . . .their National; Health Care wouldn't keep me.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			... Surely do appreciate the shout there, ICU812. ...   
But I don't think WTF was onto me 'cause I'm Australian, 
he was giving his opinion on the "America First" slogan.
 
Even as Biden wants to give even MORE money to Ukraine. 
Surely gotta wonder about that.
 
Not seeing how THAT is what's best for America. 
Not seeing how importing oil from Russia is best for America either.
 
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				Listen , I get it.  
 
I want the country to be more like Jesus and less like Caesar.  
 
This whole bullshit guise of you thinking you're putting America first is laughable. 
 
We both are just putting what we have prioritized first,  first. 
 
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			09-08-2022, 12:28 PM
			
			
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I do not recall getting a 10 plus million dollar tax break.
 
I do recall a saying "starve the beast"....which basically means less and less taxes and larger and larger deficits and debt so the Republicans can then justify eliminating much of what was promised to you in the way of SS and Medicare 
 
But there are a lot of folks not bright enough to see that money trail.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-08-2022, 12:44 PM
			
			
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				... Surely do appreciate the shout there, ICU812. ...   
But I don't think WTF was onto me 'cause I'm Australian, 
he was giving his opinion on the "America First" slogan.
 
Even as Biden wants to give even MORE money to Ukraine. 
Surely gotta wonder about that.
 
Not seeing how THAT is what's best for America. 
Not seeing how importing oil from Russia is best for America either.
 
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Correct...America first is just a stupid slogan. We are a Me First nation.
 
Oil is a world wide commodity. Because of this war....the world is now looking at energy security over energy efficiency. 
 
We were buying Russian oil because it was more efficient.  That is pure free market at work....if you do not count Trump's orders against both Iranian and Venezuela oil.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			I agree WTF, with the addition that the generation holding the reins in our country currently is the Me First generation.  Our parents, and their parents were more willing to support programs good for the whole...interstate highway system, social security, medical research....we are now unwilling to even maintain the foundation laid before us.  Many ME's now feel their wishes should outweigh those of the WE's.  Hopefully the next generation will be different.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				I agree WTF, with the addition that the generation holding the reins in our country currently is the Me First generation.  Our parents, and their parents were more willing to support programs good for the whole...interstate highway system, social security, medical research....we are now unwilling to even maintain the foundation laid before us.  Many ME's now feel their wishes should outweigh those of the WE's.  Hopefully the next generation will be different. 
			
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Our generation thinks you can cut taxes and not pay your bills....thanks to Ronald Reagan!
 
Have you read the nonsense our generation is trying to pass off as sound economic policy? Something the prior generation identified as Voodoo Economics!  
The goal it seemed....was to spend as much money on Defense as humanly possible and then blame all that debt on Social programs,  so you can cut the promised benefits to the poor and middle class.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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