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01-08-2024, 03:08 PM
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Now you're just deflecting from my calling you out on your lying about trump not telling the Jan. 6 rally to stay peaceful.
Just stick to the facts, ok? How can you expect people to get upset about trump's lies if you lie too?
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01-08-2024, 03:40 PM
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I have a good friend who I get along with as long as we don't talk politics. If I mention the name trump, he goes nuts. He has pure hatred for him. If my friend got bit by a rattlesnake in the dick and trump ran over and saves his life by sucking the venom out of his cock, my friend would probably sue trump for sexual assault. That's what goes on here by certain posters. It's ok to hate trump all u want but when someone posts something that shows that what they posted is completely wrong, don't deflect don't lower ur self by saying it ain't true when it's right in front of. Not a good look
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01-08-2024, 04:02 PM
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Good advice, chizzy. And tell your friend to avoid rattlesnakes lol!
(I am tempted to post the snakebite scene from Woody Allen's movie "Bananas" but it would be off-topic.)
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01-08-2024, 04:11 PM
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... So "peacefully and patriotically" means VIOLENCE??
... Maybe to you. ... But NOT to most people.
... uh... once again - WHO has been charged with inciting Insurrection??
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01-08-2024, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Salty Again
... So "peacefully and patriotically" means VIOLENCE??
... Maybe to you. ... But NOT to most people.
... uh... once again - WHO has been charged with inciting Insurrection??
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How about "fight like hell"
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01-08-2024, 05:54 PM
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Trump did say to March to the Capitol peacefully...and have your voices heard. He's also the same guy that said you have to fight like hell or you won't have a country, and had his boy Rudy at his side telling them to have trial by combat.. I don't believe that Trump is innocent in ginning up the January 6th folks, and does bear responsibility for some of the actors - especially the ones that were associated with Roger Stone and his affiliation with the proud boys. Since Trump conveniently gave him a pardon. At the end you have to decide Do you think the intention of Donald Trump was to incite people to take physical action, and I say yes. That means he participated - plain and simple. Participated in the riot, / insurrection, as many of those folks may not have been armed with machine guns and rocket launchers but, we're armed with other weapons that can cause harm with the intention of halting the proceedings of a transition of power.
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01-08-2024, 06:01 PM
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Trump did say to March to the Capitol peacefully...and have your voices heard. He's also the same guy that said you have to fight like hell or you won't have a country, and had his boy Rudy at his side telling them to have trial by combat.. I don't believe that Trump is innocent in ginning up the January 6th folks, and does bear responsibility for some of the actors - especially the ones that were associated with Roger Stone and his affiliation with the proud boys. Since Trump conveniently gave him a pardon. At the end you have to decide Do you think the intention of Donald Trump was to incite people to take physical action, and I say yes. That means he participated - plain and simple. Participated in the riot, / insurrection, as many of those folks may not have been armed with machine guns and rocket launchers but, we're armed with other weapons that can cause harm with the intention of halting the proceedings counting of state votes.
This guy is a loser. The more I hear Nikki Haley, the more I'm impressed by her....but that's for another thread
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01-08-2024, 07:54 PM
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He is guilty of insurrection in at least two ways.
He is guilty because he rallied people to his cause, and gave them words of encouragement that were, for all intents and purposes, successful in making people attempt to overthrow the government, for him, by means of violence.
He is also guilty because of his inaction. Had Trump had an emergency press conference or something on J6th telling people to stop doing what they were doing, then I think it is fair to believe that it would had painted him in a very positive light... even if he were guilty of inciting the violence in the first place.
You mean to tell me that his cronies who listen to everything he says, who's braincells all die lonely deaths, wouldn't listen to him telling them to STOP breaking into the capitol? That would had caused the MAGAs to find a way to spin it around like to be something like 'antifa tried to burn down the Capitol! Trump stopped them! Trump saved America on J6th!!!'... because that's what would had happened. No doubt about that.
If he tried to stop it, even with ill intent, then it is exceedingly unlikely he would be accused of insurrection. But his inaction was just as bad as his action. Because he actually thought J6th would be a successful coup.
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01-09-2024, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by onawbtngr546
He is guilty of insurrection in at least two ways.
He is guilty because he rallied people to his cause, and gave them words of encouragement that were, for all intents and purposes, successful in making people attempt to overthrow the government, for him, by means of violence.
He is also guilty because of his inaction. Had Trump had an emergency press conference or something on J6th telling people to stop doing what they were doing, then I think it is fair to believe that it would had painted him in a very positive light... even if he were guilty of inciting the violence in the first place.
You mean to tell me that his cronies who listen to everything he says, who's braincells all die lonely deaths, wouldn't listen to him telling them to STOP breaking into the capitol? That would had caused the MAGAs to find a way to spin it around like to be something like 'antifa tried to burn down the Capitol! Trump stopped them! Trump saved America on J6th!!!'... because that's what would had happened. No doubt about that.
If he tried to stop it, even with ill intent, then it is exceedingly unlikely he would be accused of insurrection. But his inaction was just as bad as his action. Because he actually thought J6th would be a successful coup.
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A. Again u can't admit you posted incorrect bullshit and agree u were wrong
B. There was not insurrection and its proven since not one person that was there was charged with that. Just a liberal talk point.
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01-09-2024, 08:23 AM
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A. Again u can't admit you posted incorrect bullshit and agree u were wrong
B. There was not insurrection and its proven since not one person that was there was charged with that. Just a liberal talk point.
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What were they trying to do on J6th, with hanging the VP, breaking into the capitol, building a gallows?
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01-09-2024, 09:37 AM
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What were they trying to do on J6th, with hanging the VP, breaking into the capitol, building a gallows?
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Again like all liberals, uu can't admit you posted incorrect info regarding what trump said.
U have little if any creditable posting
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01-09-2024, 09:40 AM
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Again like all liberals, uu can't admit you posted incorrect info regarding what trump said.
U have little if any creditable posting
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I have no credibility? That's big. Could you answer my initial question?
What were they trying to do on J6th, with hanging the VP, breaking into the capitol, building a gallows?
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01-09-2024, 10:23 AM
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If it wasn't an attempted insurrection, then what the fuck was it?
Feel free to bog the conversation down with semantics all you want. Fine, he uttered the word "peacefully", but the fact is he goaded his cult into violence.
Worse yet, he based it all on LIES. He was well aware he lost the election. He refused to accept the will of the people and prepped his cult for violence. Worst of all, he allowed it to continue for nearly 3 hours before even attempting to call off the dogs.
He's a sore loser, a pathological liar and a piece of shit traitor to the United States. These are facts.
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01-09-2024, 01:08 PM
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I have no credibility? That's big. Could you answer my initial question?
What were they trying to do on J6th, with hanging the VP, breaking into the capitol, building a gallows?
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Lol having a sign and a fake prop does not constitute an insurrection.
No credibility because you post an article and state trump never said peaceful protest and u aren't mature enough to admit u were wrong as were others.... deflection is all u try
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01-09-2024, 01:10 PM
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If it wasn't an attempted insurrection, then what the fuck was it?
Feel free to bog the conversation down with semantics all you want. Fine, he uttered the word "peacefully", but the fact is he goaded his cult into violence.
Worse yet, he based it all on LIES. He was well aware he lost the election. He refused to accept the will of the people and prepped his cult for violence. Worst of all, he allowed it to continue for nearly 3 hours before even attempting to call off the dogs.
He's a sore loser, a pathological liar and a piece of shit traitor to the United States. These are facts.
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Not semantics tommy, u post a story that's a lie and agree with it when u can see and hear it was said isn't semantics. He said it, u agreed, the op can't bring himself to do it
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