Alligator Alcatraz

[CG2014]

She was appointed by Obama. Her words mean nothing!

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Looks like the feds or the staties failed to follow the law.

https://archive.ph/5hl7d Read the full article. There is a lot more information there.

Alligator Alcatraz Must Wind Down Operations, US Judge Rules

The sprawling immigrant detention camp known as Alligator Alcatraz must be wound down and dismantled, a federal judge said, dealing a setback to Florida’s push to help President Donald Trump’s campaign to deport millions.

US District Court Judge Kathleen Williams in Miami on Thursday barred immigration authorities from bringing more detainees to the makeshift facility in the Florida Everglades, finding that it was built without a proper environmental review.

The judge also ordered state and federal officials within 60 days to remove the fencing, lighting and all “generators, gas, sewage, and other waste and waste receptacles that were installed to support this project.”

In her ruling, the judge recalled that in the 1970s, federal and state officials joined together to protect a part of the Everglades that includes Alligator Alcatraz by creating Big Cypress National Preserve.

“Since that time, every Florida governor, every Florida senator, and countless local and national political figures, including presidents, have publicly pledged their unequivocal support for the restoration, conservation, and protection of the Everglades,” she wrote. “This order does nothing more than uphold the basic requirements of legislation designed to fulfill those promises.”

... Good Luck! ... ... ... ...

#### Salty

[Mplay]

lol they aren’t stopping shit. Judge has no authority.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by Mplay

lol they aren’t stopping shit. Judge has no authority.

It’s the ruling of a federal judge. If they don’t comply then they are going to be ”breaking the law.”

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

It’s the ruling of a federal judge. If they don’t comply then they are going to be ”breaking the law.”...

In todays' instalment of: Name that LAW

...US District Court Judge Kathleen Williams in Miami on Thursday barred immigration authorities from bringing more detainees to the makeshift facility in the Florida Everglades, finding that it was built without a proper environmental review...

...In her ruling, the judge recalled that in the 1970s, federal and state officials joined together to protect a part of the Everglades that includes Alligator Alcatraz by creating Big Cypress National Preserve.

“Since that time, every Florida governor, every Florida senator, and countless local and national political figures, including presidents, have publicly pledged their unequivocal support for the restoration, conservation, and protection of the Everglades,” she wrote...

What LAW?
Pretty sure Lee Zelding will have the EPA stand-down, as the base already existed.
The local Governor is on board, because screw their feewins.
So: What LAW?

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

In todays' instalment of: Name that LAW
What LAW?
Pretty sure Lee Zelding will have the EPA stand-down, as the base already existed.
The local Governor is on board, because screw their feewins.
So: What LAW?

This law. The National Environmental Policy Act.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladit...new-detainees/

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by CG2014

She was appointed by Obama. Her words mean nothing!

Originally Posted by Salty Again

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#### Salty

Originally Posted by Mplay

lol they aren’t stopping shit. Judge has no authority.

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

In todays' instalment of: Name that LAW
What LAW?
Pretty sure Lee Zelding will have the EPA stand-down, as the base already existed.
The local Governor is on board, because screw their feewins.
So: What LAW?

It’s like dealing with angry children. The only one who countered the argument was WYID and he seemed extremely angry.

I’m sure that this will go to appeal but I happen to agree with the judge. I think that they could put this facility some place less environmentally damaging.

Just my opinion.

[offshoredrilling]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

It’s like dealing with angry children. The only one who countered the argument was WYID and he seemed extremely angry.

I’m sure that this will go to appeal but I happen to agree with the judge. I think that they could put this facility some place less environmentally damaging.

Just my opinion.

in a small part I agree
Who wants ta revive a gator with narc.... after eating a inmate

Feeding Alligators inmates is not fare to them gators

[Precious_b]

What!? A goverment building project not following codes or inspections.

Colour me disbelief.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

This law. The National Environmental Policy Act.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladit...new-detainees/

First; thanks for a link. It was a decent jumping off point. I've been pulling the thread on this sweater and so far alls I gots is a giant ball of sweater string.

I think Forbes and the judge may be vastly exceeding their carbon quota with their superfluous gaslighting. Turns out the first judge they went to turned them down, so it seems they found another when they added in an Indian tribe or some such.

Interesting aside; it seems the same environmental group involved in the suit was also involved the "saving" of the Braunton’s milk vetch in the Tonga State park in Commifornia. As we now know, that "saving" was ultimately what prevented the State from replacing old wooden poles (from 1933) and thus created the conditions that contributed to the Palisades fire.

Anyway; in reading through some of the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) act, it appears targeted to Federal government efforts only. To date the Alligator Alcatraz project is Stated funded to the tune of some $450 million. However, there is the potential for some FEMA related reimbursements down the road.

I was, at first, disappointed that Governor DeSantis would have embarked on the endeavor without anticipating this. Turns out he totally did and is already initiating the appeals process, which given the Judges 60 days edict, should ensure a quick turnaround.

Meanwhile, back at the ruling; I don't think the Judge can wave environmental concerns (being a Federal Judge). As such, she may well need to conduct an environmental study to ensure de-construction does not create a set of irreversible environmental risks, which could take a year or more.

Then there is the whole tenant problem. Air Uganda does not have a large fleet of large jets to carry them to their new homeland. So it might take a few months to get them all resettled. Though the Judge might also need to go through the another environmental study to ensure that all those jet flights, in short and repeated order, do not create a set of irreversible environmental risks, which could take a year or more.

Anyway, Imma keep reading and digging on this in my spare time.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.