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Old 08-24-2025, 02:00 PM   #1
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Default Can utilizing escorts kill the will to even try to pursue a woman the traditional way?

I used to get free sex with relative ease. In the past decade, however, I've only had sex I didn't pay for once.

While there are a number of reasons I don't get free sex with as much ease as I used to, I'd venture to say one big reason is the sheer convenience of the escort game (being able to get guaranteed sex any time, provided I'm willing to pay)

After getting used to the convenience of utilizing escorts, it's hard to justify going back to the old way (when I pursued sex solely for free)
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Old 08-24-2025, 03:29 PM   #2
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Free sex is more expensive for many reasons. Monetarily and the time you waste on effort that is not a guarantee you will score .

Sex alone is less expensive than a traditional relationship both monetarily and mentally.

If you haven’t figured it out yet most young ladies are selling it rather than looking for a traditional relationship. Many young ladies are selling it to support their deadbeat boyfriend. Sadly , this is the new norm .

The older divorced ladies have jumped on the bandwagon and it’s become normalcy.

Why give it away for free when you can see it ?
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Old 08-24-2025, 04:08 PM   #3
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This is easy to answer:
Because men & women do not socialize like they used to before technology it created 2 classes of people.
Introverts - those who just do not like groups of people more than 10 people in general. Technology was introduced into their lives after they were out of High School. These are the ones that survived the pandemic because they hate socializing. They got into computerized communications (chat rooms, instant messengers and what not) because they could type talk to people without seeing them. Web cams had not come about yet.

Incel's These are people who grew up with technology being introduced into their lives before they were in High School so instead of talking on the land line they talked & texted on their phones, with computers they communicated via chat rooms & instant messenger programs. No REAL face to face communications.

Because technology allows us to communicate without any of it happening in REAL LIFE Incel's never honed their interpersonal skills.

One group never wanted to socialized (Introverts) the other never LEARNED HOW to socialize (Incel's) but both groups get horny. So they pay a fee to a lady who takes care of that itch. Some see ladies every 2-3 days, others, once a month if that.

Unless a person wants to settle down, get married and have kids the solo life is less complicated if you do not date. Down side is that dating someone who can talk just talk to and get opinions from is great.

But if all the person is seeking is to get laid no muss, no fuss... seeking out the professional will always be first choice.
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Old 08-24-2025, 04:21 PM   #4
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Let me put this slant on it. It shows you how good sex can be. Many of the women here are highly skilled in all aspects of seduction. There are women outside of the hobby are skilled, but your chances of experiencing a highly skilled women in the hobby who can take you places you've never imagined are higher because you will be with more women. I know my BJ bar is much higher after I entered the hobby.
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Old 08-24-2025, 05:08 PM   #5
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Having a mint-condition, bodacious, bootylicious, DDG, delectable, K-Girl ATF ... whom you can lick her pussy, eat her asshole and suck and fuck with (@ your convenience) ... is being in possession of the ultimate cheat sheet in life!
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Old 08-24-2025, 08:00 PM   #6
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Can utilizing escorts kill the will to even try to pursue a woman the traditional way? No. An escort wants to be paid, not a relationship with strings attached. That's why a person is utilizing an escort in the first place. I've never had feelings for an escort to the point where I cared for her well being in a traditional sense even though I think about past encounters often.
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I was widowed this past November so now I’m back as a single guy. Dating doesn’t Appel to me right now. It takes a lot emotionally to meet someone new and decide if that are the right person for you. Also I’m my past marriage people change, many women stop wanting to have sex. It gets expensive to date the traditional way. Hiring a provider is fun and no strings if you call them back or not. The sex and fun is guaranteed and the ladies in the industry are models, porn stars you can find anything you like. For me I’m just having fun with escorts and if down the road I want to date then I’ll cross that bridge. It’s also possible if you regular with a lady enough you will get to know them on more of the emotional side. Many providers in the past who I met have said they are other providers will have feelings for a client and want to start dating. I know many scenarios are the guy is loaded which I’m not lol. If you think about it dating a provider if you chose we both have the same secrets and obviously you both like sex. I’m not looking for something like this to happen for me I’ll keep it business and fun. It definitely does happen though.
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It does make you think about how much a woman would likely be in terms of if she charged by the hour for her time.
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Yes, it does...........too old to play games and when I want my balls drained......I just text a whore, agree on a time and price and get an address and within 90 minutes......my balls are drained, and I am on my way to accomplish another project for the day.
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Yes, it does...........too old to play games and when I want my balls drained......I just text a whore, agree on a time and price and get an address and within 90 minutes......my balls are drained, and I am on my way to accomplish another project for the day.
Agreed, I have a courtesan on retainer. She plays the role to a perfection. Great traveling companion,no drama and sex that a girlfriend or wife would never do. I don't need love at my age I like getting my balls drained.
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This is easy to answer:
Because men & women do not socialize like they used to before technology it created 2 classes of people.
Introverts - those who just do not like groups of people more than 10 people in general. Technology was introduced into their lives after they were out of High School. These are the ones that survived the pandemic because they hate socializing. They got into computerized communications (chat rooms, instant messengers and what not) because they could type talk to people without seeing them. Web cams had not come about yet.

Incel's These are people who grew up with technology being introduced into their lives before they were in High School so instead of talking on the land line they talked & texted on their phones, with computers they communicated via chat rooms & instant messenger programs. No REAL face to face communications.

Because technology allows us to communicate without any of it happening in REAL LIFE Incel's never honed their interpersonal skills.

One group never wanted to socialized (Introverts) the other never LEARNED HOW to socialize (Incel's) but both groups get horny. So they pay a fee to a lady who takes care of that itch. Some see ladies every 2-3 days, others, once a month if that.

Unless a person wants to settle down, get married and have kids the solo life is less complicated if you do not date. Down side is that dating someone who can talk just talk to and get opinions from is great.

But if all the person is seeking is to get laid no muss, no fuss... seeking out the professional will always be first choice.
I suppose I'm right on the cusp (as far as which age demographic I fit into)

I began high school in 2005. We had the internet of course...but the internet was dinosaur-like compared to now (20 years later)

Texting wasn't popular yet in 2005.
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Agreed, I have a courtesan on retainer. She plays the role to a perfection. Great traveling companion,no drama and sex that a girlfriend or wife would never do. I don't need love at my age I like getting my balls drained.
Most guys on here are not looking for love as that would put him in the creep category. These providers care about one thing, money. Yes, even the overweight old heifers.

With that said, they are also not wanting a mentally checked out dead fish fuck with a GPS attitude and thinks she is doing you a favor by relieving you of your money while she does a little as possible to get it.

Especially with the nature of this business, it is a fine line between business and pleasure as blurring the line can lead to blurred boundaries, potential conflicts of interest, and emotional complications that negatively impact both the personal relationship and the business endeavor. Depending on how you walk it, so is your enjoyment in the hobby and it shows by your longevity even despite haters. On the flip side with the ladies, how many regular clients they have in regards to how many they comfortably wish to have as opposed to having to post ads ALL the time to get business because all they tend to get is one and done clients due to their shitty disposition.
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I don't think that "kill the will" is the correct term. It doesn't eliminate the desire for a genuine connection, but I would rather say that it "discourages and mitigates" it. Let's say that in the past, having a real partner was priority number 3 in your life. Well, after having extensive experience with sex workers, what if it does from position 3, down to position 9 instead? It's still there, but it's not as important.


This is most especially true in the USA, and I'll tell you why. The dating scene in the US has become almost exclusively a capitalist system. Think of it like this...


Most American women these days get their ideals in life by watching social media. And on places like tiktok, there are zounds of women with high follower accounts that are running around telling other women "This is what you should expect from your man!" And unfortunately, many women arbitrarily agree with these notions, without taking the time to think about whether they are actually a good idea or not.


And most of these popular social media accounts are chanting things like "Your man needs to be at least 6' 5" tall, he should make seven figures a year, he must resemble a body builder, and if he doesn't take you on a luxury trip within a month of meeting you, you should dump him!"


And if no men in their area resemble these traits, then they will just start looking outside of their area.


Bottom line, women in the US are simply being taught to aim as high as possible. The sky is the limit is okay in certain aspects of life. But when you think about traditional dating, the problem is...


In a healthy relationship, you stick with your partner because you really really like that person. You want to spend most of your time around them for several reasons. You both communicate well together, you enjoy their quirks, you assist each other in improving your deficiencies, and simply coincide as a good pair. Certain personality types go together, while others do not. Have you ever heard the expression "there is chemistry between us"? Sometimes it can be difficult to pinpoint exactly why having someone around all the time makes you feel good, but you recognize the feeling when it's there.


What's happening now is that women are starting off by exclusively paying attention to metrics. They aren't spending a significant amount of time around a sufficient number of men, to even determine whether any of them are a good fit.


Let's say a woman finds a hot stud muffin, who also happens to be rich and famous. So he's buying you Gucci handbags, bottles of Krug champagne at the nicest restaurants in town, and taking you on exquisite vacations. Well, what if he hasn't done anything malicious to you personally, but you've also observed the following behavior:


When the waiter brings the salad with ranch dressing, and you asked for Italian, he responds by calling the waiter a "worthless peasant". When one of your suitcases falls of the bell cart, he calls the bellhop a racial slur. He refuses to hold the door for disabled people, and one day you overhear him in the next room having a conversation with someone that is clearly a case of insider trading. But again, he hasn't mistreated you personally.


Why do you not care? Because he's supplying you with an extravagant lifestyle. And you believed that is what you were owed in life, because you watched tiktok videos without giving the message a second though. Ten years later, you realize that you and this guy don't even have the same goals in life. You want to have kids, and he doesn't want children because he wants to spend more time at work so he can be prompted from CFO to CEO. You were riding the fairy tale the whole time; being showered with expensive gifts, while giving him all the sex he asked for. You don't have the same values in life, and only after a decade of delusion, you come to find out you don't even like each other. This person wasn't your partner in life - he was your benefactor.

Bottom line; women look for perks these days; they don't focus on trying to understand who the man is, and whether they have a good connection. You want to be able to get rich by filing frivolous lawsuits against as many people as possible? Excellent, I have just the man for you! He's an attorney, that takes the burden of paying to hire an attorney off of your shoulders. You don't want to have to ever pay for car maintenance or repairs ever again? Great! Go find an automatic mechanic to marry. These are people who are primarily focused on benefits, and not on determining whether the other person compliments your type in a relationship.


This is in contrast to younger people who date in high school. You think the 17 year old girl who is chatting with the guy in class is obsessing over how much money he has? Her fellow student probably doesn't even have a job! She's trying to determine what kind of person he is, and whether they work well together. The fact that 30 year olds don't have the same priorities in life as high school students is not the point. The point is: online dating apps present people with photos and a bunch of metrics. That's only what you see on the surface, and if you don't like it, you swipe left. They don't give you the opportunity to get to know the person.


If all men wanted from women was sex, then all men would be completely satisfied by only seeing prostitutes. Why bother with dating if you didn't want to derive anything else from the interaction? The goal of a longer term relationship is not the same as that of seeing a courtesan. If you don't want to date someone you are not physically attracted to, that's fine. But demanding perfection or more from your mate is what got us into this shitfest.


So in summary, the fact that I've seen sex workers hasn't completely killed my desire for something longer term that's not based on money. But, look where the American dating scene is right now... Girls just think "Well, if the guy I'm living with now is 6 foot 3, and makes 200,000 a year, then I meet another guy who is 6 foot 4 and makes 300,000 a year, why don't I just jump ship so I can put myself in a better spot?" With so many girls having that kind of mentality, it's VERY difficult to justify putting a lot of time and effort into dating, in hopes of finding a woman who is not a total wastoid.


I had very satisfying sex on numerous occasions earlier on this year, and didn't pay the lady a single penny for it. Hint: she has never set foot in the USA, and I didn't spend time with her on this continent either.
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