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10-30-2025, 06:50 PM
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I agree. Also the government is shut down. Who at the USDA is going to go into the office with no pay and restart the program to tap into those funds, transfer it into the USDA SNAP account, distribute it to 60% of 41.7 million people?
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10-30-2025, 07:50 PM
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I agree. Also the government is shut down. Who at the USDA is going to go into the office with no pay and restart the program to tap into those funds, transfer it into the USDA SNAP account, distribute it to 60% of 41.7 million people?
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SNAP, Food Stamps ect. are really designed to enslave people. Government programs should be available but not as a lifelong commitment. Now with the possibility of recipients losing these benefits or having them significantly cut people become nervous and desperate crime and violence goes up.
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10-30-2025, 07:55 PM
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First, a small correction. You are supposed to say it as "YOUR side." I've seen that phrase used here hundreds of times and it is always posted that way.
Now, Please show us your source for the highlight above. Where exactly is this being said and who is saying that. No one mainstream, that's for sure. They are saying quite the opposite.
(PLEASE God...let it be the Babylon Bee link posted in another thread!)
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What's the matter rooster? Don't watch television or read any interviews?. It's all there with them bragging about their "leverage" and wanting to hurt the American people. Even CNN has called out Senate DEMS for refusing to vote to reopen the government. But the truth hurts you lefties.
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10-30-2025, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Levianon17
SNAP, Food Stamps ect. are really designed to enslave people. Government programs should be available but not as a lifelong commitment. Now with the possibility of recipients losing these benefits or having them significantly cut people become nervous and desperate crime and violence goes up.
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Why don’t they want you feeding the bears at Yellow Stone National park?
Because it will make them dependent.
That’s why democrats want the government monopoly on charity and can’t tolerate Churches filling that need. Government is the new God and politicians are the priests dipping into the offering. The new priesthood has no power if you’re not dependent upon their God.
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10-30-2025, 10:13 PM
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When (whenever) the Democrats in the Senate vote for the "clean CR" bill to open the government, then there will e money available to fund SNAP and all other programs and functions of government.
It is all in the hands of the Senators from those deep blue Democrat run states.
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When the Republicans can move beyond the stage of concepts of a plan then a vote can open the goverment. They've had a couple of decades to do this.
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Who said it was his fault? Even though the majority of the Hill is repub and have kowtowed to him by going beyond his constitutional limits, the blame still lies at the Republican feet for not wanting to work with the Democrats to address healthcare in this country.
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You are promoting hate and divisiveness.
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The hate is with the maggies inflicting pain on this country even before the stall on the Hill.
The divisiveness is seen by all the myriads of excuses Republicans say the Democrats are causing while the Democrats hold firm on one point that the Republicans have been ducking for multiple administrations.
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Why weren’t appropriations bills passed before the need for the CRs? Republicans found a way to stay and negotiate amongst themselves to pass the Big Bullshit Bill. The issues that aren’t resolved regarding the AcA subsidies could have been resolved prior to the need for another CR. Remember this arose originally in March. Supposedly they agreed to resolve it then when Schumer and others voted for the CR. Instead the republicans passed the Bullshit Bill. So of course the whole “trust us to negotiate this time” carries zero weight.
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For the way they are entrenched by not budging to meet about the healthcare bill, it strongly seems they are trying to kill a vestige of Obama. Even though alot of Republicans did not vote to kill it in the past.
The party of No is alive and well.
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... The Government is not concerned about anyone's health, safety or happiness.
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No truer statement about the power that is held by all three branches of goverment. Republicans: the party that is not concerned with your health, safety or happiness.
True breakers of the Constitution.
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Why don’t they want you feeding the bears at Yellow Stone National park?
Because it will make them dependent. ...
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No. Because is cause a dangerous situation by the close quarters of people and wild life.
The opposite is true in politics. Ancient Rome is the example. The maggies will find out what happens when the people are hungry. Alot of elections have been swung by this factor.
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10-31-2025, 06:41 AM
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Dysfunction Junction, what's your function?
Shouldn't those States be suing Shmuck Shumer for shutting down the government, which is causing the problem in the first ding-danged place? Don't get me wrong here. I think the whole SNAP thing needs a heavy inspection and cleansing, but the dedicated and generous Republicans left in-place the existing SNAP funding levels in the CR proffered. Juss say'n.
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10-31-2025, 09:21 AM
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Why don’t they want you feeding the bears at Yellow Stone National park?
Because it will make them dependent.
That’s why democrats want the government monopoly on charity and can’t tolerate Churches filling that need. Government is the new God and politicians are the priests dipping into the offering. The new priesthood has no power if you’re not dependent upon their God.
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Way to keep it classy. You’re not fooling anybody.
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10-31-2025, 10:50 AM
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Again I still say Judges cannot force and compel the government and the USDA (which finances and distributes SNAP) to restart a program that has run out of money because the government shut down due to no funding budget.
https://www.npr.org/2025/10/30/nx-s1...fits-tro-court
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10-31-2025, 06:28 PM
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Everything I said is repeated in here:
https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/31/polit...r-judge-ruling
Who gets it and who doesn't or will everyone just get a smaller amount and who is going to go into the office and restart the program and also recode the program to issue smaller payment and it's gonna be delayed either way, it's not like tomorrow everyone will have money in their SNAP account.
Plus if President Trump administration decides to appeal, while it's tied up in the court system, no benefits will be going out until the appeal process for both judges decision is making its way into the court system
These 2 judges think they are helping with their bullshit ruling that they have no authority over, they are not. They are only making things worse.
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11-01-2025, 06:00 AM
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So a judge is going to force legislative action?
How about a judge imposing a Federal Budget on everything else the Fed used to spend funds on?
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11-01-2025, 06:53 AM
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Not a lawyer myself so this may seem niece but . . .
If a judge can force the government to pay out money that has not available because the continuing ring resolution has not been passes in the Senate, Why can't the judge force the Senate to pass the CR?
To extend the thought: Looking backward now, f a judge can force the government to do that, why couldn't a judge force the government to pass Obama Care or th Green New Deal . . . .or to take any other legislative action /
This judicial action seems absurd to me , but then, I am not a lawyer.
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11-01-2025, 07:11 AM
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This is not OK
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...Just like everything this administration does, the people suffer so the ruling class can dance in a gilded palace...
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You call this governance? I asked the AI a pointed question. The result returned:
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Congress has frequently used continuing resolutions (CRs) to fund the federal government when it fails to enact regular appropriations bills on time. Since fiscal year (FY) 1977, Congress has passed at least one CR in all but three fiscal years.
From FY1977 to FY2012, a total of 161 CRs were enacted, averaging about six per year. Between FY1998 and FY2012, 92 CRs were enacted, averaging 6.1 per year, with durations ranging from one day to a full fiscal year.
More recently, from FY1998 to FY2025, an average of five CRs have been enacted each year, though the number in a single year has ranged from as few as two to as many as 21 in FY2001.
From FY2010 to FY2022, there were 47 CRs, and from FY2010 to FY2025, there were 57 in total. Over the entire period from FY1977 to FY2025, 207 CRs were enacted.
CRs have increasingly covered longer portions of the fiscal year. From 1998 to 2011, about one-third of each fiscal year was funded by CRs on average; from 2012 to 2025, that share rose to 46%. Full-year CRs—measures that fund the government for the entire fiscal year—were used in 2007, 2011, 2013, and 2025.
The most recent example is the Full-Year Continuing Appropriations and Extensions Act of 2025, passed in March 2025, which extended FY2024 spending levels through September 30, 2025, to avoid a government shutdown.
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The last bit is most relevant to the current situation - IMMHO.
We've been on a CR since March. Why?
Mostly because of the TDS, but also because the Dems lost complete power over the continual history of deficit spending. More like - never ending borrowing more of Other People's Money, i.e. kicking the can down the road instead of dealing with solutions.
Trump knew the Dems are in a total tizzy and are drowning in a massive denial over the depth of their loss of confidence in the electorate. It is now manifest in a massive, petulant, temper tantrum fueled by that denial. Get over it.
While the current CR would have alleviated this very issue of SNAP funding, in the short term. The shutdown exposes the multipoint failures of present day governance, mainly because the Let-Wing nuts have a substantial reality problem.
So the Judge's solution is to scrap all the other parts of the separation of powers and go straight up with only the judiciary running things?!? All of this despite the fact the judicial branch's role is to enforce the rules and laws passed by the other two branches.
I'm confident the framers of the Constitution did NOT SEE that coming to pass. Eh Comrade?
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11-01-2025, 07:19 AM
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..... The shutdown exposes the multipoint failures of present day governance, mainly because the Let-Wing nuts have a substantial reality problem.
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"substantial"?
How about "all encompassing reality problem".
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11-01-2025, 08:14 AM
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These 2 judges think they are helping with their bullshit ruling that they have no authority over, they are not. They are only making things worse.
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Of course they aren't making things better. Thats not on the leftist agenda for anyone. They made the rulings that they know are going to be overturned because they want to force the Trump administration to appeal the rulings... so that leftists can say" See they are appealing these rulings because they want Americans to starve!"
The judiciary in this Country is not in the least focused on legality.
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11-01-2025, 09:44 AM
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Rand Paul has pointed out that the current Cr merely continues the level of deficit spending imposed by the Democrats during the Biden administration.
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