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Old Yesterday, 11:13 AM   #121
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Actually I am a Conoco shareholder.
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Former President Donald Trump asked oil industry executives last month to donate $1 billion to aid his campaign to retake the White House, three people familiar with the conversation told POLITICO — a request that campaign finance experts said appeared troubling but is probably legal.
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every president asks for money from Corp America not seeing your point here?

Aww... he's just bitching because he wants Conoco to increase their dividend payout to him, not donate to politicians.


Uh-oh... here's what my trusty AI research assistant tells me:

"President Joe Biden's political campaigns have actively sought and received substantial donations from wealthy climate activists and environmental groups, with these groups, in turn, running massive independent expenditure campaigns to support his election efforts..."

What's good for the goose is good for the gander?
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Old Yesterday, 12:34 PM   #122
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Fox's Larry Kudlow seems to be having a difficult time defining the reasons for the Venezuela incursion and Maduro's arrest...contradicting himself.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...cbo=v2-lCzmrMG


Wasn't 'drill baby drill' to increase domestic US oil production?



Kudlow puts oil first in the paragraph, but then says it was all about cocaine smuggling and gun running.

It's about all three. Look on the back of a Dollar Bill, it says " In God We Trust". The word GOD has no religious connotations rather it refers to Guns, Oil and Drugs.
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Old Yesterday, 06:48 PM   #123
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Does Tulsi Gabbard's title DNI translate to Do Not Invite.

Bloomberg reported on Thursday that the White House excluded the nation’s top intelligence from discussions about the planned ouster, which was carried out on Saturday. People familiar with the situation said that Gabbard had previously opposed U.S. intervention in the South American country.
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Old Yesterday, 09:25 PM   #124
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... Capturing Maduro was something former President Biden wanted done.
Even put a $25 million dollar "Bounty" on doing it.

... So, now President Trump gets the money! ... $$$$$$ ...

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Old Yesterday, 10:57 PM   #125
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Does Tulsi Gabbard's title DNI translate to Do Not Invite.

Bloomberg reported on Thursday that the White House excluded the nation’s top intelligence from discussions about the planned ouster, which was carried out on Saturday. People familiar with the situation said that Gabbard had previously opposed U.S. intervention in the South American country.
Yeah, to your Birthday Party, lol.
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Old Today, 06:18 AM   #126
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... Capturing Maduro was something former President Biden wanted done.
Even put a $25 million dollar "Bounty" on doing it.

... So, now President Trump gets the money! ... $$$$$$ ...

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I suppose Trump didn't think it was worth claiming when he put 'only' $15MM reward up in 2020.

But...Wrong....again...looks like nobody gets the reward.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio stated, "I guess we save $50 million,"

Though Rubio has been known to change his statements on various occasions..flexible spine you know.
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It's about all three. Look on the back of a Dollar Bill, it says " In God We Trust". The word GOD has no religious connotations rather it refers to Guns, Oil and Drugs.
If you’re trying to be cute …
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It's completely different. The governments of Ukraine and Taiwan were installed in free & fair elections. They are legitimate. Maduro rigged and stole multiple elections in Venezuela. He is completely illegitimate. And that's not just my opinion. It's the view of the European Union and 50+ countries that refuse to recognize Maduro's regime. For that matter, it was also the view of the Biden Administration.

The other fact that makes your analogy false is - Ukraine isn't shipping (forbidden topic) into Russia, killing tens of thousands of Russian citizens a year. Ditto for Taiwan. It's not threatening or killing anyone on the Chinese Mainland, either with weapons or (forbidden topic). There's no casus belli for either Russia or China.

Another big difference is - we're not invading Venezuela. We will help them stabilize and restore a free & fair democracy. But our presence will be light and unobtrusive, unlike Russia's genocidal scorched-earth war in Ukraine or any scenario under which China might attempt to take over Taiwan.

I'm dismayed that I even have to explain all of this to you. Now I will let Marco chime in:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLwMMIHlCwQ
Are you kidding me?
Do you think Putin or Xi would hesatate to go into Taiwan to kidnap thier president, or Putin into Ukraine to kill VZ,
Something hes been trying to do for some time now!
Xi would probably have done it years ago except for howls of outrage he know would be shortly forthcoming from us, and he has or should I say had, business agreements with us in placement to keep him in check!
Now what do you think Pitin is trying to do in Ukraine as we speak?
I dont know where you come up with this logic.
But do you think if Ukraine gave up, do you think Putin would shake hands with VZ and tell him to go home to his wife, I got this now!
No he would take him to Berias basement to the sand pit just for nostalgia and put one behind his ear!

What your Champion did was to open that door for China to do exactly what we did. Or any of the worlds outher bad actors.
And yes we are now firmly in that catagory and if we have a problem with it well they will tell us to fuck off!
Might makes right!
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Are you kidding me?
Do you think Putin or Xi would hesitate to go into Taiwan to kidnap their president, or Putin into Ukraine to kill VZ,
something hes been trying to do for some time now!

Now what do you think Putin is trying to do in Ukraine as we speak?

I don't know where you come up with this logic.

What your Champion did was to open that door for China to do exactly what we did. Or any of the world's other bad actors.
You contradict yourself. If Putin was already inclined to try to snatch/kill Ukraine's leader Zelensky, he obviously isn't waiting for us to give him a green light (which our incredibly well-executed Caracas raid didn't do anyway). For years, Putin has been poisoning his opponents in the West with impunity. If anything, Trump's actions against Maduro should give him pause, not a green light.

Xi has no capability to kidnap Taiwan's President short of an all-out invasion. The Taiwan Strait at its narrowest point is 80-90 miles wide. What's he going to do, sneak in a commando team, grab the guy and smuggle him back over to the Mainland? For what? That's not even an option to him.

Xi's best option is to order a blockade/quarantine of all shipping in/out of Taiwan. You would be better off arguing that our current naval quarantine of Venezuela gives him a precedent, or an excuse, to do so.
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