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Originally Posted by Ducbutter
When the officer was on the passenger side of the vehicle his body cam showed the wheels tuned to the left. The question is, how far to the left. Full lock? Half lock? The answer is I don't know, you don't know and the officer didn't know. At the instant she started to accelerate (and broke traction) which way were her wheels facing?
Here's a clue, it wasn't to the right. Then she began to turn the steering wheel to the right and accelerate again. How far to the right? I don't know, you don't know and the officer didn't know. At about this point he was struck by her vehicle and he fired through the front windshield. And all this movement on her part took place inside of 2 seconds.
Pretty sure we've all heard by now that the officer had "taken a ride" on some protester's car in the recent past and required medical attention. Do think that maybe that had some bearing on how he reacted there? But you want us to believe you'd have had the presence of mind to simply keep your weapon holstered? I call bullshit on that. No doubt you've watched replays of the videos ad nauseum and I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that you still don't know everything about this event. Not a single soul on this board does.
I still stand by the statement in my original post that had Ms. Good simply obeyed the command of the officer to exit the vehicle she would still be with us. I've heard folks claim that she didn't comply because she did not know who the officers were but that shit just doesn't wash. She was there specifically to harass ICE and she'd been doing it for hours. She knew exactly who they were.
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I just watched the video for the second time.
First, on the wheels turned to the left, clearly it's less than half lock. I can see that and he could see that. I won't tell you what you see.
I take it you're saying that when she broke traction, we can't know which way her wheels were facing, but it wasn't right. That's confusing, that we both don't know but know which way they weren't facing (which happens to work in his favor).
The last image of her on his video shows her turning the steering wheel right. I don't see the vehicle moving before that moment. I can only tell it's moving as he pans to the front of the vehicle.
I don't see where in the video he was struck by her vehicle. If he's practicing Fed's strategy of putting themselves in possible jeopardy to justify use of deadly force, it would be convenient if his left hand, holding the camera, which extended would leave him out of harm's way, struck her vehicle.
I have no doubt that his prior experience helps us understand why he killed her. I also think it works against exonerating him--he wasn't just shooting to punish her, the "fucking bitch."
You know what, I'm not LE, so I expect much more of them than how I would react in this situation. Asking what I would do is a worthless standard. They signed up for the job, trained for the job, and should be expected to protect public safety, not just themselves.
You say all this took place in two seconds. From the moment he exits his car until he kills her is forty seconds. If he's a professional, he's spending all that time deescalating the situation, trying to make it end well for all involved. The it-all-happened-so-fast-defense was shot down by the highly pro-LE Supreme Court recently. The standard is the totality of events, so "he didn't have time to think" doesn't wash.
